• Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant - a partial nuclear meltdown has occured
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[QUOTE=Lazor;28565842]no[/QUOTE] thank christ, that's a relief
Here's some info I got from the news: Japanese reactors are built to withstand 8.2 quakes, I don't know how strong it was at the plant's site though. The main problem isn't the damage from the earthquake, but the destruction of the infrastructure around the facility: There's a blackout and the generators have been destroyed by the tsunami, so the whole thing is running off batteries now. The cooling-system is steam-powered, so they need electricity only for the controls. They said the energy would last 6 to 8 hours. (For comparison: A German nuclear plant can run for about 2 hours without external electricity supply before the reactor starts to melt down in such a situation.) Three people living near the plant are in hospital with radiation poisoning. Radioactive iodine was found outside the plant, wich is a strong indicator that radiation has leaked from the core. Most politicians around here are quite worried by this and also openly suspect the Japanese government and the corporation that operates the plant of lying about the true extents of the incident. A team of independent scientists was stopped 60 km away from Fukushima. The reactor has only one water circulation, wich means that all pressure released from the plant contains radioactivity. The Japanese currently attempt to cool the reactor with sea-water charged with boron to keep the fission under control. Greenpeace says it's very likely that there's a partial meltdown already underway. On a side note, this is very likely to affect German politics. One of the main decisions of the leading parties last year was to increase the time until nuclear plants are shut down. The was already a 45 km human chain of protesters today.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;28566263]Here's some info I got from the news: Japanese reactors are built to withstand 8.2 quakes, I don't know how strong it was at the plant's site though. The main problem isn't the damage from the earthquake, but the destruction of the infrastructure around the facility: There's a blackout and the generators have been destroyed by the tsunami, so the whole thing is running off batteries now. The cooling-system is steam-powered, so they need electricity only for the controls. They said the energy would last 6 to 8 hours. (For comparison: A German nuclear plant can run for about 2 hours without external electricity supply before the reactor starts to melt down in such a situation.) Three people living near the plant are in hospital with radiation poisoning. Radioactive iodine was found outside the plant, wich is a strong indicator that radiation has leaked from the core. Most politicians around here are quite worried by this and also openly suspect the Japanese government and the corporation that operates the plant of lying about the true extents of the incident. A team of independent scientists was stopped 60 km away from Fukushima. The reactor has only one water circulation, wich means that all pressure released from the plant contains radioactivity. The Japanese currently attempt to cool the reactor with sea-water charged with boron to keep the fission under control. Greenpeace says it's very likely that there's a partial meltdown already underway. [b]On a side note, this is very likely to affect German politics. One of the main decisions of the leading parties last year was to increase the time until nuclear plants are shut down. The was already a 45 km human chain of protesters today.[/b][/QUOTE] Not only Germany. It will affect the nuclear power discussion everywhere.
Well another thing to understand is that this is a very old plant. Modern plants have cooling systems that take over when electricity fails. These systems don't need any actual power to run. Another thing to take notice is how the plant survived the earthquake pretty well, it was the resulting tsunami that caused all the problems.
environmentalists don't realize that nuclear power plants give energy to 45% of the civilized world
my anime........
[QUOTE=Tamschi;28566263]The was already a 45 km human chain of protesters today.[/QUOTE] Protest everything you don't fully understand! Especially after Chernobly incident!
[QUOTE=zenith777;28566630]Protest everything you don't fully understand! Especially after Chernobly incident![/QUOTE] I'm not too fond of it when people say this, it's just an ad hominem. Sure, most people who understand how nuclear rectors work would probably be pro-nuclear, but saying that [i]everyone[/i] who protests doesn't understand just seems arrogant.
My Prayers go out to everyone in Japan and everyone who has lost a friend/family member in Japan.
[QUOTE=Pavarotti;28566719]I'm not too fond of it when people say this, it's just an ad hominem. Sure, most people who understand how nuclear rectors work would probably be pro-nuclear, but saying that [i]everyone[/i] who protests doesn't understand just seems arrogant.[/QUOTE] Yeah well some people have been buying so much iodine pills here in Finland that some pharmacies have ran out of them just because people have been so worried that if the Japan nuclear incident will bring radiation here in Finland.
[QUOTE=zenith777;28566832]Yeah well some people have been buying so much iodine pills here in Finland that some pharmacies have ran out of them just because people have been so worried that if the Japan nuclear incident will bring radiation here in Finland.[/QUOTE] The fuck? Seriously? Nobody in the UK seems to give a shit :|
[QUOTE=Not Swimbound;28563545]Because those 20~ people on facebook represent the opinions of the entire country?[/QUOTE] I suppose you're right, I apologize for my harsh words.
[QUOTE=Pizza12456;28566721]My Prayers go out to everyone in Japan and everyone who has lost a friend/family member in Japan.[/QUOTE] inb4 you get flamed for religious prayer
[QUOTE=Tamschi;28566263]Here's some info I got from the news: Japanese reactors are built to withstand 8.2 quakes, I don't know how strong it was at the plant's site though. The main problem isn't the damage from the earthquake, but the destruction of the infrastructure around the facility: There's a blackout and the generators have been destroyed by the tsunami, so the whole thing is running off batteries now. The cooling-system is steam-powered, so they need electricity only for the controls. They said the energy would last 6 to 8 hours. (For comparison: A German nuclear plant can run for about 2 hours without external electricity supply before the reactor starts to melt down in such a situation.) Three people living near the plant are in hospital with radiation poisoning. Radioactive iodine was found outside the plant, wich is a strong indicator that radiation has leaked from the core. Most politicians around here are quite worried by this and also openly suspect the Japanese government and the corporation that operates the plant of lying about the true extents of the incident. A team of independent scientists was stopped 60 km away from Fukushima. The reactor has only one water circulation, wich means that all pressure released from the plant contains radioactivity. The Japanese currently attempt to cool the reactor with sea-water charged with boron to keep the fission under control. Greenpeace says it's very likely that there's a partial meltdown already underway. On a side note, this is very likely to affect German politics. One of the main decisions of the leading parties last year was to increase the time until nuclear plants are shut down. The was already a 45 km human chain of protesters today.[/QUOTE] I think you have got it dead on with the entire situation to be honest. Everything in Japan seems to be built to withstand earthquakes, but not massive tsunami's. As for the 45km human chain of protesters, any photos of it on the internet? That sounds impressive.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;28567138]The fuck? Seriously? Nobody in the UK seems to give a shit :|[/QUOTE] Yeah, everytime a word "radiation" is mentioned in news half the population gets scared and go apeshit.
[QUOTE=Asaratha;28563499]Sometimes I wish I was canadian[/QUOTE] Everything is awesome here except the internet.
Oh shiiiiiit
[QUOTE=Jsm;28567172]As for the 45km human chain of protesters, any photos of it on the internet? That sounds impressive.[/QUOTE] They have a website: [URL]http://www.anti-atom-kette.de/[/URL] The date seems to have been coincidence, there was a similar event last year. It's a very topical theme for German politics since we actually have too much electricity and technically don't need most of the nuclear plants. Edit: Some aerial views: [URL]http://www.flickr.com/photos/anti-atom-kette/[/URL] And here's a prediction of the affected area in case radiation is released into the air: [URL]http://inqbus-hosting.de/support/dokumentation/docs/ausbreitung-einer-radioaktiven-wolke-aus-japan[/URL] It's not that visible on these graphs, but the weather forecast on N24 said the particles wouldn't even make it across half of the Pacific.
Shiit.. luckily they got the situation at the nuclear plant under control.
[QUOTE=Pizza12456;28566721]My Prayers go out to everyone in Japan and everyone who has lost a friend/family member in Japan.[/QUOTE] Praying people are either people who are too lazy to do anything actually helpful or simply want to make themselves feel less bad for not contributing.
stop praying and send money, praying doesn't do shit.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28568020]Praying people are either people who are too lazy to do anything actually helpful or simply want to make themselves feel less bad for not contributing.[/QUOTE] At least he feels bad about it or wants to help. It's not that easy for someone to help across an ocean, may I ask what you are doing? I'm not particularly religious, but if he wants to be, then let him. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;28568040]stop praying and send money, praying doesn't do shit.[/QUOTE] Sending money would obviously be an option, but there's nothing saying he's not already doing that.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28568020]Praying people are either people who are too lazy to do anything actually helpful or simply want to make themselves feel less bad for not contributing.[/QUOTE] The least you could do is respect the fact that he cares about the situation.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28568020]Praying people are either people who are too lazy to do anything actually helpful or simply want to make themselves feel less bad for not contributing.[/QUOTE] It's no different than if he said "best wishes to everyone in Japan" and you wouldn't flip out over that so stuff a rag in it.
Bravo facepunch, you managed to jump on the hate religion bandwagon in something unrelated. Confuckingrats. :golfclap:
[QUOTE=Tamschi;28567443]They have a website: [URL]http://www.anti-atom-kette.de/[/URL] The date seems to have been coincidence, there was a similar event last year. It's a very topical theme for German politics since we actually have too much electricity and technically don't need most of the nuclear plants. Edit: Some aerial views: [URL]http://www.flickr.com/photos/anti-atom-kette/[/URL] And here's a prediction of the affected area in case radiation is released into the air: [URL]http://inqbus-hosting.de/support/dokumentation/docs/ausbreitung-einer-radioaktiven-wolke-aus-japan[/URL] It's not that visible on these graphs, but the weather forecast on N24 said the particles wouldn't even make it across half of the pacific.[/QUOTE] What exactly do these protesters want? Some kind of fucking miracle fuel that doesn't produce greenhouse gases but is also not dangerous? Wind, solar and hydro power plants only work under certain conditions so they're no use, the only real green power at the moment is nuclear power until they can figure a way of making fusion power efficient.
[QUOTE=haloguy234;28568491]The least you could do is respect the fact that he cares about the situation.[/QUOTE] 99% of Facepunch is made up of angsty teens that think religion should never have existed and has never contributed to anything ever and can only be bad (and this is coming from someone who has been an atheist since birth).
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28568581]It's no different than if he said "best wishes to everyone in Japan" and you wouldn't flip out over that so stuff a rag in it.[/QUOTE] If it's no different than if he said "best wishes to everyone in Japan", then why are you making a motherfucking fuss about it?
Hydrogen is in theory that fuel, but its expensive to get.
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