Huge blast at Japan nuclear power plant - a partial nuclear meltdown has occured
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[QUOTE=Source;28560561]If the reactor was to say......blow is there an estimate or declared range of how big could be affected.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the estimated blast radius would be about 0 metres.
Cause you know, nuclear reactors CAN'T explode.
[QUOTE=bravehat;28560981]Yeah the estimated blast radius would be about 0 metres.
Cause you know, nuclear reactors CAN'T explode.[/QUOTE]
He doesn't know.
[QUOTE=bravehat;28560981]Yeah the estimated blast radius would be about 0 metres.
Cause you know, nuclear reactors CAN'T explode.[/QUOTE]
Well unless it falls into water.
Apparently, They're now on about flooding the reactor with sea water....
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a bad idea.
Soruce:Seen it on Sky News, on TV, trying to find an online one.
They are not telling the truth. Im calling it now. We have another Chernobyl.
[QUOTE=Deiru;28561103]Apparently, They're now on about flooding the reactor with sea water....
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a bad idea.
Soruce:Seen it on Sky News, on TV, trying to find an online one.[/QUOTE]
And that's why you're not a nuclear engineer.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;28561181]They are not telling the truth. Im calling it now. We have another Chernobyl.[/QUOTE]It's not going to be another Chernobyl because the reactor is still intact. The Chernobyl incident became as bad as it is due to a thermal explosion blasting apart the reactor.
"hugo - a number of people throughout the morning have mentioned talk of a meltdown on German televsion. We have heard no suggestion of one having taken place, however, the latest news is that there is a low level radiation leak."
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;28561207]And that's why you're not a nuclear engineer.
It's not going to be another Chernobyl because the reactor is still intact. The Chernobyl incident became as bad as it is due to a thermal explosion blasting apart the reactor.[/QUOTE]
Yes but do you honestly think the government wants to taint the program because of this? No. They would rather make it look like the fucking safest thing in the fucking world.
did anyone get hurt in the explosion?
[QUOTE=jordguitar;28561229]Yes but do you honestly think the government wants to taint the program because of this? No. They would rather make it look like the fucking safest thing in the fucking world.[/QUOTE]
Well it is definetly safe if the whole hall collapsed but the reactor is still intact.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;28561229]Yes but do you honestly think the government wants to taint the program because of this? No. They would rather make it look like the fucking safest thing in the fucking world.[/QUOTE]Can you even begin to imagine the immense damage to their political reputation they'll suffer if they try to cover it up, and that cloud ends up drifting to countries like China, or if going the other way, the US? They also couldn't cover it up if they tried, many dozens of international nuclear organisations are there, monitoring the situation. Then there's countries watching for radiation on their shores e.g. if radiation warnings start going off in Hawaii, the US is going to know exactly whose it is.
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OR we (Not very likely) end up with Chernobyl[/QUOTE]
(Firstly apologizes if this has been mentioned already, I am working my way through the 7 pages)
I don't think there is that much of a risk of it here, modern nuclear power plants are a lot safer and built with containment buildings etc to prevent this sort of thing. Chernobyl wasn't designed with safety in mind (the Russians seemed to believe that nuclear power was perfectly safe and no precautions were needed)
[QUOTE=Jsm;28561275](Firstly apologizes if this has been mentioned already, I am working my way through the 7 pages)
I don't think there is that much of a risk of it here, modern nuclear power plants are a lot safer and built with containment buildings etc to prevent this sort of thing. Chernobyl wasn't designed with safety in mind (the Russians seemed to believe that nuclear power was perfectly safe and no precautions were needed)[/QUOTE]
The Chernobyl insident happened during a safety exercise.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;28561308]The Chernobyl insident happened during a safety exercise.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was an attempt to see how much power they could get out of it.
Wikipedia says it happened during a system test. But I don't know how reliable that article is.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;28561308]The Chernobyl insident happened during a safety exercise.[/QUOTE]In which they shut off the steam turbines, the primary source of power for powering the coolant pumps, to see how long the spin-down cycle will keep coolant flowing before the generators kick in to keep it flowing. It's worth mentioning they did that experiment a few times before, all failing. One doesn't have to be a genius to figure out a number of ways that can backfire.
That, coupled with bad design choices like graphite design rods, inaccurate and insufficient instrumentation, and bad management decisions, like postponing the test until it ended up happening during a shift change, led to disaster.
Please, stop with this ridiculous reductionism. The details are important to learn from in order to prevent future disasters like these.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;28561269]Can you even begin to imagine the immense damage to their political reputation they'll suffer if they try to cover it up, and that cloud ends up drifting to countries like China, or if going the other way, the US? They also couldn't cover it up if they tried, many dozens of international nuclear organisations are there, monitoring the situation. Then there's countries watching for radiation on their shores e.g. if radiation warnings start going off in Hawaii, the US is going to know exactly whose it is.[/QUOTE]
Yes and that is most likely going to take days for any of those detectors to trip as you know, it does have to travel thousands of miles. Untill another body goes in and actually says something and either confirms what the government is saying or says the government is a fucking liar, we wont know and there is a nice good possibility the government is trying to cover up the fact that there is a bigger problem.
The BBC keep showing a clip of it over and over again and I cant help but think it looks like an implosion.
Am I going mad or does anyone else think this?
[QUOTE=Jsm;28561377]The BBC keep showing a clip of it over and over again and I cant help but think it looks like an implosion.
Am I going mad or does anyone else think this?[/QUOTE]
how do you tell the difference between an implosion and an explosion?
[QUOTE=jordguitar;28561359]Yes and that is most likely going to take days for any of those detectors to trip as you know, it does have to travel thousands of miles. Untill another body goes in and actually says something and either confirms what the government is saying or says the government is a fucking liar, we wont know and there is a nice good possibility the government is trying to cover up the fact that there is a bigger problem.[/QUOTE]You seem to have missed the point. It doesn't matter how long it takes to find out. If they find out that Japan has been lying, and they will if it is the case, those countries that end up having radioactive material land on their soil are going to be absolutely livid. Not to mention the political ramifications in Japan itself, with how the people will react to being lied to. Lying would only postpone the incandescent rage of those irradiated.
[QUOTE=Jsm;28561377]The BBC keep showing a clip of it over and over again and I cant help but think it looks like an implosion.
Am I going mad or does anyone else think this?[/QUOTE]
The way the debris goes [i]away[/i] from the plant leads me to believe it's an explosion :colbert:
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;28561351]In which they shut off the generators, the primary source of power for powering the coolant pumps, to see how long the spin-down cycle will keep coolant flowing before the generators kick in to keep it flowing. It's worth mentioning they did that experiment a few times before, all failing. One doesn't have to be a genius to figure out a number of ways that can backfire.
That, coupled with bad design choices like graphite design rods, inaccurate and insufficient instrumentation, and bad management decisions, like postponing the test until it ended up happening during a shift change, led to disaster.
Please, stop with this ridiculous reductionism. The details are important to learn from in order to prevent future disasters like these.[/QUOTE]
this man knows.
[QUOTE=Thorny;28561403]The way the debris goes [i]away[/i] from the plant leads me to believe it's an explosion :colbert:[/QUOTE]
I should probably watch it on a screen that is actually close to me, I have only seen a small low res clip of it on a small TV far away from me.
Edit: Having just watched it on the BBC site (its in slow mo and everything), I retract my previous statement.
This is Awesome
[QUOTE=King Flawless;28561459]This is Awesome[/QUOTE]
Your a heartless retard
[QUOTE=King Flawless;28561459]This is Awesome[/QUOTE]
It's awesome for a country to have radiation spewed all over it?
fuk da japs, thats what u get you slanty-eyed, bonzai-charging, bushido faggots.
no way u ain't suicide bombing my naval ships no more, thats what u fucking get you backwards dicks
us westerners gave u all of your technology and modernization, fuck yeah Meiji Restoration!
fuck off japs, i hope a 10.0'r hits you and brings you to hell for good.
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Oh man this is REALLY bad.
[QUOTE=Deiru;28561103]Apparently, They're now on about flooding the reactor with sea water....
I'm no expert, but that sounds like a bad idea.
Soruce:Seen it on Sky News, on TV, trying to find an online one.[/QUOTE]
How do you think they cooled it down in the first place?
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