Man arrested for child porn, e-mails threats to rape, kill a federal agent
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[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645491]A necessary evil.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy
You're really digging your own grave now
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[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645529]As long as it does not involve death or dismemberment, love is love. And none are worthy to decide subjectively in the matter.[/QUOTE]
So mental scarring is completely okay then? I sincerly hope you don't live in America, I REALLY wouldn't want you near any children.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645529]As long as it does not involve death or dismemberment, love is love. And none are worthy to decide subjectively in the matter.[/QUOTE]
then i guess we should just throw aside a lot of shit away in accordance to your views huh
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[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645556]Love is an objective obligation of the human race to protect.[/QUOTE]
but you seriously addressed rape as 'love'
are you socially retarded?
[QUOTE=Ownederd;38645568]but you seriously addressed rape as 'love'
are you socially retarded?[/QUOTE]
At this point, he's pretty much got to be trolling.
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[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645439]Pedophiles should stand up, and throw off the veil society blankets them under.
Sexuality is a right for all men, women, and others.
And sexuality should never be oppressed under [b]Any Circumstance[/b], no matter who it may harm.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between being a pedophile and [b]purchasing child porn[/b].
He wasn't arrested for being attracted to children, he was arrested for attempting to support an organization that systematically enslaves children and then discards them once they grow, or worse, keeps them enslaved as prostitutes until they die.
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Thank fucking god it was a sting operation. If it was an actual distributer, he could've poured thousands of dollars into their operations over the years without being discovered.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645598]Liebe werden uns von der Natur zu schützen.[/QUOTE]
This has nothing to do with anything. Oh good he's banned, he was REALLY beginning to get beyond a level of creepiness I haven't seen here.
He should have sent the gorilla warfare copypasta
[QUOTE=OffTheRoad;38645288]Those ones were forced into marriage by their parents in a culture where it is considered legal, but that does not make abusing a kid sexually any better in anyone's eyes.
Try to think for a second, you're defending people who are too fucked up from their head to care about the mental scars their acts will cause to a kid who is not intelligent enough to understand what the whole thing is about. Human develops over time and learns slowly about how everything happens. Having sex with a young child is like telling them that santa doesn't exist but physical and a million times worse!
Just stop posting for a minute and think about how you're making a fool out of yourself.[/QUOTE]
Devil's advocate for a moment here. It doesn't appear that this guy attempted to abuse anyone, though we don't have all the case details, and I may be missing information. You could argue that he realizes how fucked up his fetish is, but restrained himself from acting upon it.
My personal view is that people meeting that description need serious help. The incredibly harsh penalties combined with knee jerk reactions associated with anything even tangentially related to child pornography, or any potential sexual abuse for that matter, make it difficult, if not impossible to get help, even if the person in question wants it.
Does this guy meet that description? I'm not qualified enough to say, but it seems pretty obvious to me that hard penalties across the board aren't exactly effectively combating the problem.
That letter reminded me of:
[quote=4chan]What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38645656]Devil's advocate for a moment here. It doesn't appear that this guy attempted to abuse anyone, though we don't have all the case details, and I may be missing information. You could argue that he realizes how fucked up his fetish is, but restrained himself from acting upon it.
My personal view is that people meeting that description need serious help. The incredibly harsh penalties combined with knee jerk reactions associated with anything even tangentially related to child pornography, or any potential sexual abuse for that matter, make it difficult, if not impossible to get help, even if the person in question wants it.
Does this guy meet that description? I'm not qualified enough to say, but it seems pretty obvious to me that hard penalties across the board aren't exactly effectively combating the problem.[/QUOTE]
Judging by his response I don't think he has an interest in getting help. Looks like he's going for a longer sentence however.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645556]Love is an objective obligation of the human race to protect.[/QUOTE]
Children are too easily manipulated, especially by adults that they love or respect. Just ask anyone that grew up in a broken home or was touched by their pastor. You don't see things how they really are until you're older. Then you realize just how bad you situation was. Believe it, it ain't fair to the children to let them be essentially prey. Now they're grown up and mentally scarred.
Edit: I should've read the rest of the thread because I replied to a troll. I'm dumb.
[QUOTE=galenmarek;38645690]Judging by his response I don't think he has an interest in getting help. Looks like he's going for a longer sentence however.[/QUOTE]
It's rather difficult to comment on this impartially. If your life got ruined, you'd probably be in an irrational rage too. Does that excuse his actions? Obviously not, but they are at least understandable (maybe). Additionally, the fear of help has the potential to be a major factor here. If you come out and seek help as things currently stand, you are fucked, regardless of your intentions. In America right now, you simply cannot seek help without ruining yourself.
There's just too many variables to account for when making claims here.
EDIT: And as usual Dori comes to the table with boxes and without any substance.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38645750]It's rather difficult to comment on this impartially. If your life got ruined, you'd probably be in an irrational rage too. Does that excuse his actions? Obviously not, but they are at least understandable (maybe). Additionally, the fear of help has the potential to be a major factor here. If you come out and seek help as things currently stand, you are fucked, regardless of your intentions. In America right now, you simply cannot seek help without ruining yourself.
There's just too many variables to account for when making claims here.
EDIT: And as usual Dori comes to the table with boxes and without any substance.[/QUOTE]
glad to know you're part of the background audience that makes up the ambient atmosphere
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38645750]If you come out and seek help as things currently stand, you are fucked, regardless of your intentions. In America right now, you simply cannot seek help without ruining yourself.[/QUOTE]
Entirely incorrect. If you're a pedophile and want help, get a therapist. They're bound by law to keep everything confidential unless you're an immediate threat to someone.
Remember when the rationalwiki came on at one point and pointed out that pedophillia apolgetics and sympathizers were the reason facepunch was creepy? Yeah.
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[QUOTE=Paramud;38645888]Entirely incorrect. If you're a pedophile and want help, get a therapist. They're bound by law to keep everything confidential unless you're an immediate threat to someone.[/QUOTE]
I'll admit to not being well versed in this area, although from what I understand, much of it is subjective. Am I incorrect?
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38645954]Remember when the rationalwiki came on at one point and pointed out that pedophillia apolgetics and sympathizers were the reason facepunch was creepy? Yeah.[/QUOTE]
Who is this directed at? The trolls?
If believing that the rights to fair trials is universal, and that all people should have ready access to medical help when required makes me creepy, than so be it. Pedophilia is horrible, but you can't just magically make it go away by prohibiting it.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38645954]Remember when the rationalwiki came on at one point and pointed out that pedophillia apolgetics and sympathizers were the reason facepunch was creepy? Yeah.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with pedophilia, you can't control it. The issue is the people who ACT on those urges and endanger children.
I don't think you should automatically condemn pedophiles for being pedophiles. As stated many times, the problem is acting on the urges.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38646257]There's nothing wrong with pedophilia, you can't control it. The issue is the people who ACT on those urges and endanger children.[/QUOTE]
I just wish society wouldn't demonize pedophilia to the point where pedophiles who have trouble controlling their urges won't seek out help because the consequences of revealing themselves to be a pedophile scares them so much that they are willing to risk potentially losing control and raping a child rather than getting help.
Maybe if everyone was more willing to treat someone with pedophilia like an actual human being there would be less cases of child rape and more cases of pedophiles getting help.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;38646341]I just wish society wouldn't demonize pedophilia to the point where pedophiles who have trouble controlling their urges won't seek out help because the consequences of revealing themselves to be a pedophile scares them so much that they are willing to risk potentially losing control and raping a child rather than getting help.
Maybe if everyone was more willing to treat someone with pedophilia like an actual human being there would be less cases of child rape and more cases of pedophiles getting help.[/QUOTE]
I've always wondered what "help" is actually supposed to do - make them straight(yeah right)? Help them manage their urges? Remove sexual desires?
[QUOTE=halofreak472;38646383]I've always wondered what "help" is actually supposed to do - make them straight(yeah right)? Help them manage their urges? Remove sexual desires?[/QUOTE]
Manage urges really. There's no real way to make someone not be a pedophile, but there are ways to help them control their urges.
[QUOTE=halofreak472;38646383]I've always wondered what "help" is actually supposed to do - make them straight(yeah right)? Help them manage their urges? Remove sexual desires?[/QUOTE]
From what I know it's very similar to people with other mental disorders. Mostly management.
I have no idea if you can 'remove' the urges.
[QUOTE=halofreak472;38646383]I've always wondered what "help" is actually supposed to do - make them straight(yeah right)? Help them manage their urges? Remove sexual desires?[/QUOTE]
IIRC it gives them ways to control their urges and prevents them from actually going out and raping children
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It's just as impossible to remove pedophilia as it is to remove homosexuality, though. It's just not possible, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38644801]Imagine if this letter was one that Alan Turing sent to his oppressors before he was chemically castrated for being homosexual.
This gentleman doesn't seem like such a bad guy now, does he?[/QUOTE]
I am nearly in tears of laughter from how stupid this is, god this was so hard type
[editline]29th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645165]
And anyone who supports marijuana legalization is a dirty pothead, right? Check your privilege.[/QUOTE]
oh god I'm dying
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