• Man arrested for child porn, e-mails threats to rape, kill a federal agent
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[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38646257]There's nothing wrong with pedophilia, you can't control it. The issue is the people who ACT on those urges and endanger children.[/QUOTE] there is something wrong with pedophilia. i'd consider it a disorder as sexual attraction to children is harmful to everyone involved. but at the same time it's not something you choose to have so there's nothing wrong wit the person who has it, just the attraction itself which is why said people should either exercise constraint (which the vast majority do i'm sure) or seek help [editline]30th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Primigenes;38646424]Well you are. You're just not allowed to have sex with children? Is that a problem or something[/QUOTE] sick fucks that want to rape children always try to relate sex to love
what causes pedophilia?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38647088]what causes pedophilia?[/QUOTE] sexy kids
[quote] sick fucks that want to rape children always try to relate sex to love[/quote] They can't control it and most of them feel awful with themselves, there's no need to slam them for it even more. Slam the molesters, not the pedophiles. [QUOTE=The Baconator;38647088]what causes pedophilia?[/QUOTE] It's unknown, but there are links to it possibly being hereditary or caused by an event in your life that could trigger it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38647285]There is nothing wrong with [I]attraction[/I] ever. It's just like most fetishes/kinks/weird desires- The desire itself is not the problem. It's whether acting on it will harm others or not, and then if you choose to act on it or not. They can't control it and most of them feel awful with themselves, there's no need to slam them for it even more. Slam the molesters, not the pedophiles. It's unknown, but there are links to it possibly being hereditary or caused by an event in your life that could trigger it.[/QUOTE] yes there is something wrong with it? how is there something not wrong with wanting to fuck kids? it's definitely some sort of disorder. would you say someone with schizophrenia has nothing wrong with them? no you wouldn't because that's stupid
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38647285]There is nothing wrong with [I]attraction[/I] ever.[/QUOTE] I don't think many pedophiles would agree with that.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;38647435]yes there is something wrong with it? how is there something not wrong with wanting to fuck kids? it's definitely some sort of disorder. would you say someone with schizophrenia has nothing wrong with them? no you wouldn't because that's stupid[/QUOTE] I might have misread what you were saying, I thought that you were saying that the pedophiles were being bad people solely because they had those urges, whether or not they acted on it. Edited.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38647466]I might have misread what you were saying, I thought that you were saying that the pedophiles were being bad people because they had those desires. Edited.[/QUOTE] i'm not saying pedophiles are bad people just that they got something wrong with them. anyone that acts on that something or tries to justify or defend it is a bad person though
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645491]A necessary evil.[/QUOTE] Right here you got too obvious.
shitposting snip aw fuck nigga got quoted
[QUOTE=lNloruzenchi;38648294]pro gay anti sex stay classy fp[/QUOTE] it's not being classy when you're anti-sex with kids it's being normal
Stop relating or equating paedophilia with homosexuality for fucks sake
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645491]A necessary evil.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but what How is rape a necessary evil ever How could you ever think that
That note reminds me of that gorrila warfare copypasta.
[QUOTE=Desuh;38648434]That note reminds me of that gorrila warfare copypasta.[/QUOTE] You are the like the 3rd person to say this.
[QUOTE=galenmarek;38648442]You are the like the 3rd person to say this.[/QUOTE] I hate arriving to threads late :(
I'd like to think Facepunch's reaction to the 'lulz' guy in this thread is the reason a lot of pedophiles keep their desires secret from the world until they build up and they go out and rape and murder children. Seriously, people have been doing this for thousands of years, does the catholic church, penn state mean nothing to anybody? His view is ridiculous but if you're really as concerned about the safety and well-being of kids as you want to appear that you are, you should realize you're not helping by oversimplifying what happens to be a hugely complex and disturbing issue.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;38648328]Stop relating or equating paedophilia with homosexuality for fucks sake[/QUOTE] The only difference between homosexuality and pedophilia/necrophilia/zoophilia/doorknob fetish is that when you act on your urges, it is with somebody who can give consent. Otherwise, a zoophile who does not act on their urges is no different from, let's say, a horrendously ugly person who chooses not to rape people, despite being so ugly that nobody would ever consent to have sex with them. They all fall under the category of being attracted to something other than a capable person of the opposite gender, it's just that some are more unfortunate to have than others.
[QUOTE=halofreak472;38648682]The only difference between homosexuality and pedophilia/necrophilia/zoophilia/doorknob fetish is that when you act on your urges, it is with somebody who can give consent. Otherwise, a zoophile who does not act on their urges is no different from, let's say, a horrendously ugly person who chooses not to rape people, despite being so ugly that nobody would ever consent to have sex with them. They all fall under the category of being attracted to something other than a capable person of the opposite gender, it's just that some are more unfortunate to have than others.[/QUOTE] What are you arguing? That ability to consent is only a small difference between homosexuality and paedophilia?
[QUOTE=Paramud;38645888]Entirely incorrect. If you're a pedophile and want help, get a therapist. They're bound by law to keep everything confidential unless you're an immediate threat to someone.[/QUOTE] Or if it involves the abuse or harm of children, according to therapists I've spoken to.
[QUOTE=Valnar;38648794]What are you arguing? That ability to consent is only a small difference between homosexuality and paedophilia?[/QUOTE] It's the single difference, and while going out and raping children/cats is harmful to them, for those who do not act out their desires(which I imagine would take as much self control as it does to simply not jump up to and rape a hot woman on the sidewalk), something got fucked up in their brain that caused them to be attracted to the wrong type of person/species/thing.
[QUOTE=halofreak472;38648826]It's the single difference, and while going out and raping children/cats is harmful to them, for those who do not act out their desires(which I imagine would take as much self control as it does to simply not jump up to and rape a hot woman on the sidewalk), something got fucked up in their brain that caused them to be attracted to the wrong type of person/species/thing.[/QUOTE] Legally recognizable consent =/= consent. And what is the 'right type' of person/species/thing to be attracted to? The worlds most average 18-36 year old person of the opposite sex?
[QUOTE=Ybbats;38649009]Legally recognizable consent =/= consent. And what is the 'right type' of person/species/thing to be attracted to? The worlds most average 18-36 year old person of the opposite sex?[/QUOTE] I meant consent in general, not just legal consent. The 'right type' of person/species/thing to be attracted to is somebody you can physically reproduce with. Homosexuals may find it difficult to impregnate the same sex. Biologically, it is a massive problem, but socially, pedophiles, homosexuals, and heterosexuals should all be equally acceptable.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38648808]Or if it involves the abuse or harm of children, according to therapists I've spoken to.[/QUOTE] Yes, like I said. An immediate threat to someone.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38648808]Or if it involves the abuse or harm of children, according to therapists I've spoken to.[/QUOTE] I think it's only if you directly threaten someone AKA "I will kill this man" or "I will abuse this child" in which case they can notify the endangered parties involved
allot of this thread reminds me of all the social conservatives who though gay marriage would lead to pedophile's being able to have sex with kids. The two aren't comparable at all cause one can give consent, the other cannot
[QUOTE=Ybbats;38648543]I'd like to think Facepunch's reaction to the 'lulz' guy in this thread is the reason a lot of pedophiles keep their desires secret from the world until they build up and they go out and rape and murder children. Seriously, people have been doing this for thousands of years, does the catholic church, penn state mean nothing to anybody? His view is ridiculous but if you're really as concerned about the safety and well-being of kids as you want to appear that you are, you should realize you're not helping by oversimplifying what happens to be a hugely complex and disturbing issue.[/QUOTE] this is fucking stupid. do you go and rape and kill woman because you haven't touched one in ages? why does being a pedo mean you suddenly have no self control? some pedos do what they do because some think it's a-okay, in their eyes touching kiddies is fine, like they are doing them a favor or something. that's not quite 'losing control'.
"Oh dear I've been busted for child porn. I'll threaten him with rape and death! Yes. This is the most logical path of action to take."
[QUOTE=a-k-t-w;38649306]this is fucking stupid. do you go and rape and kill woman because you haven't touched one in ages? why does being a pedo mean you suddenly have no self control? some pedos do what they do because some think it's a-okay, in their eyes touching kiddies is fine, like they are doing them a favor or something. that's not quite 'losing control'.[/QUOTE] That's because they've successfully justified their action to themselves. They've lost control because they have defined themselves in a way that precludes their morality. It's like saying that a drug user isn't abusing when they are, simply on the basis that they've justified it in their mind. Yeah, one develops a lot of cognitive dissonance when they realize they are the only person they will ever know who has the same attraction. Not only that, but that they have to live their entire life free of lust and love because they only seem to be able to elicit those emotions with children. They have to develop professional and adult lives as solitary, celibate individuals. You lose control because you just say 'Fuck it.' Fighting who you identify yourself to be is the cruelest war to be involved in, and unless they eschew morality, they begin fighting who they are from the instant they discover themselves. So yeah, a lot of them turn to online pornography, because it's the only way they can gratify themselves without (directly) abusing others. They develop these libraries of shameful secrets that would ruin their lives the instant they are found out, hoping desperately that they can keep the two separate spheres they probably identify as their life from eclipsing one another. They network online, because like a person stranded on an island, they are alone with their own thoughts and feelings and unable to share them with anyone. It's not sympathy, it's empathy. Imagine how horrid all of that would be to discover about yourself, as you are growing up thinking you are a normal human being. Watching modern media where pedophiles are publicly named and shamed, regardless of whether or not they've acted on their feelings or not. Looking in the mirror, and wondering if you are truly as bad as they are, simply by virtue of having the attraction. Imagine the years of cognitive dissonance and self denial some, if not many go through when they try and force themselves to live a 'normal life', struggling the entire time with the fact that they in all likelihood define themselves as monsters. Yeah, there are abusers out there. Those are the 'bad' people. They are the people who think they are helping the children, when in reality they are justifying their abuse with a cognitive distortion. The rest of them? They're just lost, and looking for a way to live with what they identify to be a permanent condition of their living.
[QUOTE=lulzlalz;38645264]The Japanese found it acceptable, why can't we?[/QUOTE] the fact that the Japanese find it okay isn't exactly a point in it's favor
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