GAME_JAM: how Polaris' 400-thousand-dollars reality show about indie game devs crashed and burned in
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[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44414731]what? when you have reputable indie devs going on 'real'ity tv with mountain dew ads surrounding them then yeh it makes the industry look pretty terrible yes[/QUOTE]
Thought you were talking about what Ashes specifically said, not the affair in general. My b.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44414693][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Leshem[/url][/QUOTE]
I opened the link and found this
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16550652/oy%20vey.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=junker154;44414728]This is why the gaming community and industry can be ridiculous at times.[/QUOTE]
And I notice that now
Maybe a better approach is to idk, turn the other cheek like nothing happened?
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414560]Someone outta find Matti's phone number and fucking harrass and send him death threats
Evil mother fucker[/QUOTE]
"why won't people take us seriously :c?"
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414787]And I notice that now
Mate a better approach is to idk, turn the other cheek like nothing happened?[/QUOTE]
I agree that something should be done, but using the same dirty methods like death threats and harassment is what led to this in the first place.
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414787]And I notice that now
Maybe a better approach is to idk, turn the other cheek like nothing happened?[/QUOTE]
A better approach is to make his conduct very public and well known.
And to perhaps support the YT's who are now planning some sort of new independant jam of their own.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/25HdlT8.png[/img]
This is why I love Jon and his friends.
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414758]Calling me pathetic and to fuck off is just like FP, not wanting to do a damn thing yet look super cool and righteous[/QUOTE]
the guy was fired. we're a forum full of children and neckbeards but also students and professionals and people with lives and everything in between. what are you expecting us to do with our time? the guy was already fired for what he did. but you think people telling you to fuck off because they don't want to send a dumb businessman death threats are just trying to look "super cool and righteous". lol wtf man
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414787]Maybe a better approach is to idk, turn the other cheek like nothing happened?[/QUOTE]
there's a middle-ground you know between "doing nothing" and "sending a guy death threats"
it's called reading the article, talking about it with your friends maybe, sharing it around a bit, being aware of the injustice of the terrible situation (that was largely rectified), and continuing to be a functioning member of society who strives to, as best they can in their limited free time, be progressive and open-minded
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44414869][img]https://i.imgur.com/25HdlT8.png[/img]
This is why I love Jon and his friends.[/QUOTE]
Too right. Even when shit got fucked to a serious degree, they said "To hell with this, we're going to freakin' Disneyland!"
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44414870]the guy was fired. we're a forum full of children and neckbeards but also students and professionals and people with lives and everything in between. what are you expecting us to do with our time? the guy was already fired for what he did. but you think people telling you to fuck off because we don't want to send a dumb businessman fucking death threats are just trying to look "super cool and righteous". lol wtf man[/QUOTE]
And I noticed that and already agreed that I'm stupid for wanting to threaten him
Sorry for being a pain in the ass
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414895]And I noticed that and already agreed that I'm stupid for wanting to threaten him
Sorry for being a pain in the ass[/QUOTE]
fair enough mate. take a step back from this stuff next time i guess
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414560]Someone outta find Matti's phone number and fucking harrass and send him death threats
Evil mother fucker[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah that will teach him! A bunch of angsty and edgy forum posters calling and telling him how good of a shot you are because of the navy seals.
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414895]And I noticed that and already agreed that I'm stupid for wanting to threaten him
Sorry for being a pain in the ass[/QUOTE]
I gave you a funny because I thought you were making fun of people who actually do that :/
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44414693][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Leshem[/url][/QUOTE]
Matti Phillip Leshem (born January 2, 1963) is founder and CEO of [B]Protagonist[/B], a television production company
more like antagonist
amirite?
Sometimes I can't help but feel this industry needs a slap in the face.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;44414976]I gave you a funny because I thought you were making fun of people who actually do that :/[/QUOTE]
Actually I don't have a clue what I was doing anymore
Can we please let this be? Matti's an asshole, all the devs get to go to Disneyland, everyone harassing Zoe is an sexist asshole and so forth
[QUOTE=Rufia;44415013]Sometimes I can't help but feel this industry needs a slap in the face.[/QUOTE]
To be fair this is because of the TV industry, not the gaming industry.
It's shitty Reality TV people trying to make another shit show where people pretend to get angry and shit.
Old media, running the scene. It's a new age alright; a new age of [B]DARKNESS[/B].
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44414726][IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/hosting/2014-04/2014-04-01_01-35-30.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]I was wondering about this too since the writer of the article said he expected there to be problems between Jon and Zoe and that there were. Not that they hate each other or anything, just that they'd clash. Just curious why that'd be.
yeah, they acted like their pairing was intentional to stir up drama
[QUOTE=Ashes;44414758]OK so maybe my response was was retarded, and even wrong by far
But I didn't know how else to respond to someone who just wanted to stir shit for attention and who obviously is anti feminist,
Calling me pathetic and to fuck off is just like FP, not wanting to do a damn thing yet look super cool and righteous[/QUOTE]
You realize what death threats are right
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44415417]I was wondering about this too since the writer of the article said he expected there to be problems between Jon and Zoe and that there were. Not that they hate each other or anything, just that they'd clash. Just curious why that'd be.[/QUOTE]
IIRC isn't there a clause in the contract YouTube people have with Polaris that basically says they can't badmouth other channels in the network? I could swear I heard totalbiscuit talk about it a few times. If there is, then we probably wouldn't hear about why exactly they would clash or whatever.
Either way, I doubt anyone could bear too much of a grudge against Jon. I mean, really, could you stay mad at that face?
Although it sucks that traditional media still doesn't understand videogame culture enough to make a proper TV production about it, I'm happy to see that the game devs actually got fed up enough to stick it to the reality TV directors.
The original documentary idea sounded really interesting.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44415417]I was wondering about this too since the writer of the article said he expected there to be problems between Jon and Zoe and that there were. Not that they hate each other or anything, just that they'd clash. Just curious why that'd be.[/QUOTE]
Probably just personality differences.
Man reading this whole thing left a really bad taste in my mouth. Shit's abysmal as fuck.
I'm glad everyone of the cast had the integrity to not put up with that shit, it's such a crying shame they had to go through something so shitty.
Jesus, should have made a reality show about them making the reality show, given all the drama.
[QUOTE=HWECQI;44415674]Man reading this whole thing left a really bad taste in my mouth. Shit's abysmal as fuck.
I'm glad everyone of the cast had the integrity to not put up with that shit, it's such a crying shame they had to go through something so shitty.[/QUOTE]
Now there's an idea for a reality show. "What happens when we lock a dozen incorruptible people in a room with one insufferable asshole who exists to create drama?"
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44415898]Now there's an idea for a reality show. "What happens when we lock a dozen incorruptible people in a room with one insufferable asshole who exists to create drama?"[/QUOTE]
The Result: there is no show.
Which is the best outcome I can think of.
So why were they worried about Zoe Quinn and JonTron? Did they have a history or something?
[img]http://www.dewexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/MattiLeshem_Protagonist.jpg[/img]
Look at the little shit, he looks like Kain from C&C :v:
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