Fiona Apple Facing Up to 10 Years in Jail Over Texas Marijuana Bust, Sheriff's Department ask her to
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[QUOTE=Kopimi;37814576]the entire reason you're responding to him is to back up your point that she [B]somehow deserved what happened to her because she broke the law [/B]
[QUOTE=Paramud;37814610]You mean being arrested? Yeah, that's kind of what happens when you knowingly break the law[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Let me try to hit a little harder to home. If you were "pirating" just one song on the net, and then you were arrested for doing so, you wouldn't have any problem with that, right, according to your logic? You totally deserved that right? Or maybe it's a bullshit law in the first place, and those that fall victim to said bullshit law, really are undeserving, hmm...
[QUOTE=Cruma;37821876]Let me try to hit a little harder to home. If you were "pirating" just one song on the net, and then you were arrested for doing so, you wouldn't have any problem with that, right, according to your logic? You totally deserved that right? Or maybe it's a bullshit law in the first place, and those that fall victim to said bullshit law, really are undeserving, hmm...[/QUOTE]
Allow me to refer you to my first post in this thread.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37808311]Then you shouldn't be arguing that she shouldn't be arrested, you should be arguing that pot should be legal.
Which happens every fucking time someone posts a thread related to marijuana in any way, so continue.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paramud;37821936]Allow me to refer you to my first post in this thread.[/QUOTE]
and...? This still doesn't change the fact that you're pretty asinine for thinking she's deserving of.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37821611]That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying she broke the law, so she got arrested.
This isn't that hard to follow.[/QUOTE]
What's the point of posting it then? Are you assuming people have no ability to acknowledge events that are happening or what?
[QUOTE=Cruma;37821953]and...? This still doesn't change the fact that you're pretty asinine for thinking she's deserving of.[/QUOTE]
It kind of follows that if you break the law, you run the risk of being arrested.
(That's sort of what the judicial system is about, you know)
Jesus, I like how FP switches from supporting Marijuana then all of a sudden having a major hardon for someone getting busted for having it. She did act a bit childish here but she's not a very big celebrity like some of the people in here probably think, kind of a shame she got busted though, I like her music.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37821998]It kind of follows that if you break the law, you run the risk of being arrested.
(That's sort of what the judicial system is about, you know)[/QUOTE]
People lend each other CDs and use images of copyright material for educational purposes, they "break the law" but they aren't arrested because people aren't completely imbecilic to do so.
[editline]27th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=VagueWisdom;37822012]kind of a shame she got busted though, I like her music.[/QUOTE]
her latest album is pretty damn good too, I would have seen her live if I got the chance. tis a damn shame. :(
[QUOTE=AK'z;37822026]People lend each other CDs and use images of copyright material for educational purposes, they "break the law" but they aren't arrested because people aren't completely imbecilic to do so.[/QUOTE]
What crime a person is arrested for doesn't matter. If you're willing to take a risk, don't complain if it comes back to bite you. She could've been arrested for unpaid parking tickets, I'd be arguing the same thing.
If someone breaks the law, fully knowing what could happen to them, and they get arrested, it's entirely on that person.
If you don't like the law, try to change it. Vote against it or have arguments on the internet about it. But the severity of a crime does not alter whether or not a person should be arrested for committing it, and whether or not they "deserve" to be arrested doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37822131]What crime a person arrested for doesn't matter. [/QUOTE]
I've lost interest in whatever you're arguing about.
who?
[QUOTE=Paramud;37822131]If you're willing to take a risk, don't complain if it comes back to bite you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paramud;37822131]If you don't like the law, try to change it.[/QUOTE]
Okay, so never complain about it, so that rules out protesting, sending off letters to Congressmen, arguing on the internet or in real life, and only leaves you with voting which could also arguably be considered complaining.
Shit, you'd be lucky to actually still be able to vote if people followed this way of thinking.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37821936]Allow me to refer you to my first post in this thread.[/QUOTE]
but thats exactly what we're arguing wtf
we're saying she shouldn't be arrested for smoking pot which is absolutely the same thing as saying smoking pot shouldn't be legal
[editline]27th September 2012[/editline]
there's not even a difference the fuck is your point dude
"its so bullshit to get arrested for smoking pot" is the same thing as "you really shouldn't be arrested for smoking pot / it shouldn't be illegal"
[QUOTE=Mingebox;37811764]anyone who thinks it should be legal would still have to arrest people for it, and this couldn't be cops?[/QUOTE]
Well, no, they wouldn't. Cops already violate orders and statutes they disagree with, as I posted.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37811660]I'm not going to read a fucking 30 page pdf[/QUOTE]
You don't get to make an assertion and then decide you don't feel like reading proof you're a nimrod.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;37824726]Well, no, they wouldn't. Cops already violate orders and statutes they disagree with, as I posted.
You don't get to make an assertion and then decide you don't feel like reading proof you're a nimrod.[/QUOTE]
I've never ever hunted before, but if you really think I'm somehow naturally skillful, I ought to try it some time.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37828643]I've never ever hunted before, but if you really think I'm somehow naturally skillful, I ought to try it some time.[/QUOTE]
huh what does that even mean
[editline]28th September 2012[/editline]
when was hunting even hinted at
'an unjust law is not a law at all' i agree with that quote when it comes to 'well she broke the law thats what happens!'
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;37828805]'an unjust law is not a law at all' i agree with that quote when it comes to 'well she broke the law thats what happens!'[/QUOTE]
I agree with this sentiment, and I'd also hate to play the devil's advocate by asking this, but what is necessarily stopping a person from disobeying a law and/or refusing to uphold it if anyone can violate it on the grounds that they find it morally or pragmatically disagreeable?
Does such a course of action depend solely on the presupposition that the law in question is already blatantly erroneous to begin with, or must the authorities go to extensive lengths to prove the legitimacy of the law before being able to arrest the offender?
Is this dichotomy even realistic?
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37828721]huh what does that even mean
[editline]28th September 2012[/editline]
when was hunting even hinted at[/QUOTE]
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5483751/Photos/2012-09-28_0834.png[/img]
??
that joke wasn't even remotely funny you should be ashamed right now
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;37822310]Okay, so never complain about it, so that rules out protesting, sending off letters to Congressmen, arguing on the internet or in real life, and only leaves you with voting which could also arguably be considered complaining.
Shit, you'd be lucky to actually still be able to vote if people followed this way of thinking.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure you're deliberately misunderstanding him.
There's an obvious difference between complaining that you were arrested for doing something against the law, and protesting that a law is wrong.
[QUOTE=st0rmforce;37829317]I'm pretty sure you're deliberately misunderstanding him.
There's an obvious difference between complaining that you were arrested for doing something against the law, and protesting that a law is wrong.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that people are well within their right to complain about being arrested because a dumb and needless law existed.
I suppose men and women who were ever arrested for living together while being unmarried in Florida shouldn't complain about being arrested over a dumb law either.
[QUOTE=st0rmforce;37829317]I'm pretty sure you're deliberately misunderstanding him.
There's an obvious difference between complaining that you were arrested for doing something against the law, and protesting that a law is wrong.[/QUOTE]
no he's just being a fucking pedant
don't encourage him
[QUOTE=Kopimi;37829083]that joke wasn't even remotely funny you should be ashamed right now[/QUOTE]
What, I don't know what the word means, and google says it means skilled hunter.. It's not a joke.
Jesus christ this thread is a train wreck of stuff that has almost zero to do with the OP.
[QUOTE=Eluveitie;37831970]Jesus christ this thread is a train wreck of stuff that has almost zero to do with the OP.[/QUOTE]
Is this your first time in Sensationalist Headlines?
Can I just point out that 'since it's the law' is a stupid argument.
I'm not arguing against anybody in this thread exactly but I've seen people use that argument and it's just dumb.
There are stupid laws too.
People get death penalties for Blasphemy in Islamic countries sometimes, but that's alright since its the law, right?
I can't find anything saying if this is a first offence or not. It would be hilarious if that guy was shouting about her getting 10 years and shit then she just gets a warning for first offence.
[QUOTE=Rapist;37832697]Can I just point out that 'since it's the law' is a stupid argument.
I'm not arguing against anybody in this thread exactly but I've seen people use that argument and it's just dumb.
There are stupid laws too.
People get death penalties for Blasphemy in Islamic countries sometimes, but that's alright since its the law, right?[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone was arguing that, because it's the law, it's alright. Just that it's stupid to say that someone should not be arrested just because they disagree with a law.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37833178]I don't think anyone was arguing that, because it's the law, it's alright. Just that it's stupid to say that someone should not be arrested just because they disagree with a law.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Viper202;37808681]So? The law is the law.[/QUOTE]
Anyway, yes I agree.
[QUOTE=Paramud;37833178]I don't think anyone was arguing that, because it's the law, it's alright. Just that it's stupid to say that someone should not be arrested just because they disagree with a law.[/QUOTE]
are you still going on about this holy shit dude
how are you this thick that you're unable to recognize saying "weed shouldn't be illegal" and "she shouldn't get arrested for weed" are the same exact thing
[editline]28th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=st0rmforce;37829317]I'm pretty sure you're deliberately misunderstanding him.
There's an obvious difference between complaining that you were arrested for doing something against the law, and protesting that a law is wrong.[/QUOTE]
no there isn't there's literally nothing different about the two they are exactly the same
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