• Ellen Page comes out as homosexual
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hlCEIUATzg[/media] how can someone listen to this speech and say she's just doing it for attention?
Why is it always the cute ones?
For a second I thought the thread title said "Ellen DeGeneres" and I was very confused
[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;43918128]I look forward to the day when things like this [I]aren't[/I] newsworthy. What I mean is, when homosexuality isn't something that's seen as wrong or "different" and people feel the need to make a huge deal out of someone who's gay. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. Good for her for publicly coming out and everything.[/QUOTE] People will stop making a big deal about this stuff once homosexuality and general sexuality stuff stops being taboo. Right now we're living through a civil rights movement of sorts, so this actress is announcing that her sexuality isn't the current societal norm to sort of let homosexual youth have a role model. Stuff like this is what's going to make sexuality not a big deal in the future. Compare it to the 60's: Imagine if you were black and no one knew it (not really possible but work with me), and you revealed your race to the public. People would get all surprised because you are vocally proclaiming that you're a second-class citizen. This is just like the other civil rights movements, but the only difference here is that the oppressed groups have to verbally confirm that they're one of the oppressed, so it's a much bigger deal. Sexuality is something that can be kept secret, whereas race cannot. Compare Morgan Freeman and Ian McKellen. Both are well-respected elderly actors, and both belong to oppressed groups. No one really seems to mind, though, and their work is more important than their race/sexuality. In the near future, this should apply to everyone in show business and eventually all over society. (I wrote this at a very late hour and I'm not going to revise it in-depth)
[QUOTE=Devodiere;43917619]Yeah of all the industries I would've thought that movies are one of the most accepting. Gay people might still get some shit treatment but she's not breaking any new ground at all. My biggest concern is she's 26, did she just figure it out or did she think that people wouldn't accept her or did she think it wasn't so obvious that she was probably gay?[/QUOTE] Why does she need to break new ground? Any public figure coming out as gay is going to bolster public acceptance of non-hetero sexualities and contribute heavily to social and legislative reform. Also bear in mind that many of these people (esp. men) are putting their careers on the line by doing this sort of thing given that homophobia is still a deciding factor in whether to hire somebody or not
I just love when people say shit like "you don't see me flaunting me being straight" or "wow what an attention whore" Because apparently speaking out against a notable issue in society is flaunting your sexuality now hahah fuck out of here with that stupid shit
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;43917571]~rather bigoted paragraphs~[/QUOTE] The only reason why celebrities come out like this is because our society currently places everyone as "straight until proven gay". There are gay teenagers all over the place who need to know they're not alone and that there are cool successful people out there who are like them. In racial segregation this was a lot easier, since your race isn't something that can be hidden. Segregation of sexuality is different because it's a mental state rather than a physical one and people need to state what they are I think I basically posted the same thing twice in a row
Actually guys, I think we should switch to his definition of homosexual because it means I still have a chance..... (DISCLAIMER: This is just a joke not to be taken seriously....)
[QUOTE=arbio22;43917474]Doesn't homosexual mean sexually attracted to man? Hence "Homo" and "Sexual"[/QUOTE] Can we vote for best post 2014 yet? I think we have a winner.
this thread is so fucking gross 50% straight people whining because lesbians are only an obstacle to their fantasies (like you would ever get a chance to fuck ellen page anyway lmao) and 50% straight people whining about how gay people should be quiet about their sexuality
[QUOTE=Ermac20;43918283]Except there wasn't any sex in that game was there?[/QUOTE] There was still a half a dozen shower scenes, a shitty forced romance, and an attempted rape scene. I'm more referring to the fact that David Cage is a total creep for Ellen Page outside of his shitty games.
[QUOTE=Skyward;43918540]There was still a half a dozen shower scenes, a shitty forced romance, and an attempted rape scene. I'm more referring to the fact that David Cage is a total creep for Ellen Page without getting into his shitty games.[/QUOTE] Theres TWO attempted rape scenes.
[QUOTE=BASEDCHEF420;43918530]this thread is so fucking gross 50% straight people whining because lesbians are only an obstacle to their fantasies (like you would ever get a chance to fuck ellen page anyway lmao) and 50% straight people whining about how gay people should be quiet about their sexuality[/QUOTE] uhhh listen mate, i just have a problem with gay people flaunting their sexuality okay! us straights never do that! anyway, what was i going to say? oh yeah, FUCK SHE'S A LESBIAN HOW CAN I JERK OFF TO HER???? OR TRY TO BANG HER??? THIS ISN'T FLAUNTING BTW
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;43918501]"you don't see me flaunting me being straight"[/QUOTE] The irony being that being straight is flaunted literally everywhere, Heterosexuals just don't think about it because it's seen as the "norm".
[QUOTE=Skyward;43918268]David Cage must be really disappointed.[/QUOTE] To paraphrase Yahtzee, despite Ellen Page, he is still just a rat in a cage.
do the sort of people who have fantasies about celebrities actually care about their sexuality? like come on, if you cared about realism in your fantasy you wouldn't be having a fantasy, would you now
[QUOTE=Pasalaqcua;43918441]Why is it always the cute ones?[/QUOTE] Because those are the only people that the media reports on.
[QUOTE=Ermac20;43918283]Except there wasn't any sex in that game was there?[/QUOTE] there's a bunch of forced romances in that game everything in that game is hilariously bad
[QUOTE=arbio22;43917474]Doesn't homosexual mean sexually attracted to man? Hence "Homo" and "Sexual"[/QUOTE] I love to read an awful post and then look down a bit and there's a massive sum of bad ratings on it.
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;43917571]Why do celebrities.. and there for... anyone, need to "come out" publicly? I thought the LGBT wanted to be treated as equals to everyone else? I personally have a friend who i know is homosexual but he only tells people he trusts and such. Me and him have had this conversations before about this and we both agree that making your sexuality, whatever it is, a big deal by announcing it just ruins the point of equality. She should have just wnt about her own buisness instead of trying to draw attention to herself and to her "cause". Yes, LGBT equality is something worth fighting for, but this just isnt an effective way, at all in doing it. This is just attention whoring. Thats my opinion though. If this somehow does help, then im okay I guess, but i just know it doesnt. Meh, maybe im just upset because its valentines day and im not thinking my argument clearly through, but i do have a point I feel like. Maybe :([/QUOTE] Because if you hadn't noticed, there is still a heavy war being fought on homosexuals to try and take away rights, jail, and in some cases even kill them. Celebrities coming out is important because the goal is to show people growing up that they aren't freaks, and by bringing attention to it can go a long way toward furthering the cause and preventing what is rampant suicide by gay teens who feel like outcasts or are taught to believe that there is something wrong with them.
[QUOTE=Omali;43918770]Because if you hadn't noticed, there is still a heavy war being fought on homosexuals to try and take away rights, jail, and in some cases even kill them.[/QUOTE] I have a feeling this is a very exaggerated statement.
[QUOTE=arbio22;43917474]Doesn't homosexual mean sexually attracted to man? Hence "Homo" and "Sexual"[/QUOTE] *slow clap*
[QUOTE=Jrose14;43917445]I'm sure the fantasies will still be there, just a bit... different.[/QUOTE] I'd be willing to watch. ;)
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;43918212]Good for her. This thread has already said what I need to say positively on that mark. It's honestly interesting to realize why LGBT celebrities come out so late(?) into their career. Makes you wonder how a celebrity's career would've gone if they were open about it before they became famous.[/QUOTE] I think this is what Page means by saying she feels a responsibility to do this. The more gay actors come out, the sooner the day comes when actors can be openly gay [i]before[/i] starting their careers without having to worry about it hurting them. This applies to more than just acting of course. It's just that movie stars are more visible, so it carries more impact when they do it.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43917511]He just made a simple linguistic mistake, give him some slack.[/QUOTE] That linguistic mistake is on par with using the word linguini instead of linguistic.
[QUOTE=Paramud;43918896]I have a feeling this is a very exaggerated statement.[/QUOTE] [quote]In many parts of the world, including much of the European Union and United States, acts of violence are legally classified as hate crimes, which entail harsher sentences if convicted. In some countries, this form of legislation extends to verbal abuse as well as physical violence. Violent hate crimes against LGBT people tend to be especially brutal, even compared to other hate crimes: "an intense rage is present in nearly all homicide cases involving gay male victims". It is rare for a victim to just be shot; he is more likely to be stabbed multiple times, mutilated, and strangled. "They frequently involved torture, cutting, mutilation... showing the absolute intent to rub out the human being because of his (sexual) preference".[32] In a particularly brutal case in the United States, on March 14, 2007, in Wahneta, Florida, 25-year-old Ryan Keith Skipper was found dead from 20 stab wounds and a slit throat. His body had been dumped on a dark, rural road less than 2 miles from his home. His two alleged attackers, William David Brown, Jr., 20, and Joseph Eli Bearden, 21, were indicted for robbery and first-degree murder. Highlighting their malice and contempt for the victim, the accused killers allegedly drove around in Skipper's blood-soaked car and bragged of killing him. According to a sheriff's department affidavit, one of the men stated that Skipper was targeted because "he was a faggot."[33] In Canada in 2008, police-reported data found that approximately 10% of all hate crimes in the country were motivated by sexual orientation. Of these, 56% were of a violent nature. In comparison, 38% of all racially motivated offenses were of a violent nature.[33] In the same year in the United States, according to Federal Bureau of Investigation data, though 4,704 crimes were committed due to racial bias and 1,617 were committed due to sexual orientation, only one murder and one forcible rape were committed due to racial bias, whereas five murders and six rapes were committed based on sexual orientation.[34] In Northern Ireland in 2008, 160 homophobic incidents and 7 transphobic incidents were reported. Of those incidents, 68.4% were violent crimes; significantly higher than for any other bias category. By contrast, 37.4% of racially motivated crimes were of a violent nature.[33][/quote] [quote]Egale Canada conducted a survey of more than 3700 high school students in Canada between December 2007 and June 2009. The final report of the survey, “Every Class in Every School”,[4] published in 2011, found that 70% of all students participating heard “that’s so gay” daily at school, and 48% of respondents heard “faggot”, “lezbo” and “dyke” daily. 58% or about 1400 of the 2400 heterosexual students participating in EGALE’s survey found homophobic comments upsetting. Further, EGALE found that students not directly affected by homophobia, biphobia or transphobia were less aware of it. This finding relates to research done in the area of empathy gaps for social pain which suggests that those not directly experiencing social pain (in this case, bullying) consistently underestimate its’ effects and thus may not adequately respond to the needs of one experiencing social pain.[5] EGALE, along with previous research[6][7][8][9] has found teachers and school administration may be complicit in queer bullying through their silence and/or inaction. Graffiti found on school grounds and property, and its “relative permanence”,[8] is another form of queer bullying. Some researchers suggest including youth questioning their sexuality in any research on queer bullying because they may be as susceptible to its’ effects[9][10][11] as queer students. A research study of 78 11 to 14 year-old boys conducted in 12 schools in London, England between 1998 and 1999[7] revealed that respondents who used the word ‘gay’ to label another boy, intended the word as “just a joke”, “just a cuss” and not as a statement of one’s perceived sexual orientation.[8][12] American sociologist Michael Kimmel and American psychologist Gregory Herek write that masculinity is a renunciation of the feminine and that males shore up their sense of their masculinity by denigrating the feminine and ultimately the homosexual.[/quote] [quote]Teens face harassment, threats, and violence. A 1998 study in the US by Mental Health America found that students heard anti-gay slurs such as “homo”, “faggot” and “sissy” about 26 times a day on average, or once every 14 minutes. About two-thirds of gay and lesbian students in Britain’s schools have suffered from gay bullying, a survey by the Schools Health Education Unit found. Almost all that had been bullied had experienced verbal attacks, 41 percent had been physically attacked, and 17 percent had received death threats. There is a high rate of suicide among gay men and lesbian women. According to a 1979 Jay and Young study, 40 percent of gay men and 39 percent of gay women in the US had attempted or seriously thought about suicide.[24] In 1985, F. Paris estimated that suicides by gay youth may comprise up to 30 percent of all youth suicides in the US.[24] The American Foundation for Suicide Prevention has found that gay, lesbian and bisexual youth attempt suicide at a rate three to six times that of similar-age heterosexual youth. In 2004, the FBI reported that 15.6% of hate crimes reported to police were founded on perceived sexual orientation. Sixty-one percent of those attacks were against gay men, 14% against lesbians, 2% against heterosexuals and 1% against bisexuals, while attacks against LGBT people at large made up 20%.[2] Violence based on perceived gender identity was not recorded in the report. The FBI reported that for 2006, hate crimes against gays increased to 16% from 14% in 2005, as percentage of total documented hate crimes across the U.S.[3] The 2006 annual report, released on November 19, 2007, also said that hate crimes based on sexual orientation are the third most common type, behind race and religion.[3] In 2008, 17.6% of hate crimes were based on the victim's perceived sexual orientation. Of those crimes, 72.23% were violent in nature. 4,704 crimes were committed due to racial bias and 1,617 were committed due to sexual orientation. Of these, only one murder and one forcible rape were committed due to racial bias, whereas five murders and six rapes were committed based on sexual orientation.[4] Santa Clara County Deputy District Attorney (DDA) Jay Boyarsky attributed a surge in anti-gay hate crimes, from 3 in 2007 to 14 in 2008, to controversy over Proposition 8. However, the DDA cautioned against reading too much from small statistical samples, pointing out that the vast majority of hate incidents do not get referred to the District Attorney's office.[5] In 2011, the FBI reported 1,572 hate crime victims targeted based on a sexual orientation bias, making up 20.4% of the total hate crimes for that year. Of the total victims, 56.7% were targeted based on anti-male homosexual bias, 29.6% were targeted based on anti-homosexual bias, and 11.1% were targeted based on anti-female homosexual bias.[6][/quote] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/1000px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/MSifRtE.png[/img] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1363851[/url] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/02/uganda-leader-says-he-will-sign-anti-gay-bill-201421565051727696.html[/url] -breaking news here lynching and social drive towards annihilation in the west, straight up extermination in the third world
hmm i dunno seedeater i think i might trust 'paramuds' gut feeling on this one
[QUOTE=Paramud;43918896]I have a feeling this is a very exaggerated statement.[/QUOTE] Kansas just tried to pass what amounts to a gay version of Jim Crow laws there is a very active "War on Homosexuals" going on even in the "Civilized" West.
Quite a lot of people are saying things like "I'd be more surprised if she wasn't" or that they already assumed she was. Is there any reason for this or is it just one of those things people guessed?
[QUOTE=shauntp;43919267]Quite a lot of people are saying things like "I'd be more surprised if she wasn't" or that they already assumed she was. Is there any reason for this or is it just one of those things people guessed?[/QUOTE] There is an entire industry who's single purpose is to speculate what celebrities are/do/eat/drink so I don't doubt it.
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