• Ellen Page comes out as homosexual
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[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];43919204'][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/1000px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/MSifRtE.png[/img][/QUOTE] I thought Vietnam was backwards as fuck in spite of its communist government, but it's even ahead of Cuba on this. What the hell?
[QUOTE=shauntp;43919267]Quite a lot of people are saying things like "I'd be more surprised if she wasn't" or that they already assumed she was. Is there any reason for this or is it just one of those things people guessed?[/QUOTE] gaydar
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;43919278]I thought Vietnam was backwards as fuck in spite of its communist government, but it's even ahead of Cuba on this. What the hell?[/QUOTE] Vietnam isn't that backwards though.
[QUOTE=shauntp;43919267]Quite a lot of people are saying things like "I'd be more surprised if she wasn't" or that they already assumed she was. Is there any reason for this or is it just one of those things people guessed?[/QUOTE]I don't know it's weird, something about the way she dresses or presents herself or something like that. It always seemed like she wasn't comfortable with people knowing.
[QUOTE=shauntp;43919267]Quite a lot of people are saying things like "I'd be more surprised if she wasn't" or that they already assumed she was. Is there any reason for this or is it just one of those things people guessed?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Killer900;43919338]I don't know it's weird, something about the way she dresses or presents herself or something like that. It always seemed like there wasn't comfortable with people knowing.[/QUOTE] Basically. The combination of a more reserved personal life and a tomboyish personality. She always seemed different in some inexplicable way. I never naturally assumed she was gay, but hearing her come out doesn't really shock me.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];43919204'][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/World_homosexuality_laws.svg/1000px-World_homosexuality_laws.svg.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/MSifRtE.png[/img] [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1363851[/url] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/02/uganda-leader-says-he-will-sign-anti-gay-bill-201421565051727696.html[/url] -breaking news here lynching and social drive towards annihilation in the west, straight up extermination in the third world[/QUOTE] This map is old, kansas should be a level 1 restriction colour.
This is beautiful. I think she's very brave.
[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;43918128]I look forward to the day when things like this [I]aren't[/I] newsworthy. What I mean is, when homosexuality isn't something that's seen as wrong or "different" and people feel the need to make a huge deal out of someone who's gay.[/QUOTE] This would happen whether it's news worthy or not, she's a celebrity. Infact it's not even news worthy now, it's not like there's a new article for whenever anybody in any town comes out.
I thought everybody knew that already
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[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919769]I think homosexuality should always be seen as different. I'm not homophobic, but neither do I think it's normal for a person to be attracted to the same sex, for biological reasons. Do you think a population where half the people have no desire to reproduce would be healthy? You may argue that a homosexual couple could have kids through fertilization by a 3rd person, but that way the offspring would not only miss a father figure, but also the genetic bond between children/parents would be broken and the whole concept of families starts to fall apart.[/QUOTE] sorry but biological reasons don't really apply to humans anymore. and genetic bonds? lol [editline]15th February 2014[/editline] does adoption make the concept of families fall apart to you?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43919794]biological reasons don't really apply to humans anymore[/QUOTE] what
it should be seen as normal because life isn't about reproducing it's about being yourself and being happy [editline]15th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919806]what[/QUOTE] who gives a shit about biological reasons for anything anymore? we're not animals
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yeah because people accepting homosexuals is going to kill off the human race
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919769]I think homosexuality should always be seen as different. I'm not homophobic, but neither do I think it's normal for a person to be attracted to the same sex, for biological reasons. Do you think a population where half the people have no desire to reproduce would be healthy? You may argue that a homosexual couple could have kids through fertilization by a 3rd person, but that way the offspring would not only miss a father figure, but also the genetic bond between children/parents would be broken and the whole concept of families starts to fall apart.[/QUOTE] It's not like it's half the population though, nor is it ever going to be. Homosexuals are a small fraction of the overall population, and recognition of their partnership isn't going to make more people suddenly "turn gay". The fact that homosexuality is a biological thing ensures the stability of the population, the percentage is more or less constant. The bottom line is, homosexuality does not threated the population in any way.
i forgot that homosexuality is actually more prevalent than heterosexuality and the only thing that's kept the human race alive is forcing homosexuals into the closet so they have heterosexual relationships
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43919830]i forgot that homosexuality is actually more prevalent than heterosexuality and the only thing that's kept the human race alive is forcing homosexuals into the closet so they have heterosexual relationships[/QUOTE] Did I or anyone else ever tell you that you're not that great in explaining things to people who seem to be genuinely curious?
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[QUOTE=gudman;43919833]Did I or anyone else ever tell you that you're not that great in explaining things to people who seem to be genuinely curious?[/QUOTE] thinking the human race will die out if homosexuality is considered normal isn't curiosity it's stupidity
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919816]well that's all nice and dandy but a population is deemed to die if it doesn't reproduce[/QUOTE] Think of homosexuality as nature's way of crowd control then. The world's population is reproducing faster than it is dieing out, there are more people born than people who die every minute. We will eventually overpopulate this planet and we might die out because there are not enough resources to keep everyone alive. Because homosexuals don't reproduce, they are helping our race not overpopulate the earth too rapidly.
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919853]Those are your words. I said homosexuality should be taken as an abnormality, but homosexuals shouldn't be treated any differently.[/QUOTE] well they will always be treated differently so long as they're considered abnormal [editline]15th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Simski;43919864]Think of homosexuality as nature's way of crowd control then. The world's population is reproducing faster than it is dieing out, there are more people born than people who die every minute. We will eventually overpopulate this planet and we might die out because there are not enough resources to keep everyone alive. Because homosexuals don't reproduce, they are helping our race not overpopulate the earth too rapidly.[/QUOTE] this is a dumb argument. first, there is not and i doubt there ever will be enough homosexuals to make any sort of impact on how many people are born each year, not only that but it's discounting that many homosexuals still have children through surrogate mothers or sperm donation
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919853]Those are your words. I said homosexuality should be taken as an abnormality, but homosexuals shouldn't be treated any differently.[/QUOTE] But why should it be taken that way. Who even cares, and why anyone should care? You see, the way we're taking it is not going to influence anything at all except for confidence of the homosexuals themselves. When you say the homosexuality is an abnormality, you're doing exactly nothing but make homosexual person feel uneasy. Why would you do that if not for the sake of it?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43919865]this is a dumb argument. first, there is not and i doubt there ever will be enough homosexuals to make any sort of impact on how many people are born each year, not only that but it's discounting that many homosexuals still have children through surrogate mothers or sperm donation[/QUOTE] I was just trying to defeat him with his own logic, congrats on keeping the argument alive though
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43919861]thinking the human race will die out if homosexuality is considered normal isn't curiosity it's stupidity[/QUOTE] There's a line between stupidity and ignorance. Why not fight ignorance by EXPLAINING how shit works instead of coming across as an asshole?
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[QUOTE=gudman;43919833]Did I or anyone else ever tell you that you're not that great in explaining things to people who seem to be genuinely curious?[/QUOTE] and i actually think i am pretty good at explaining things to people that ARE genuinely curious, it's just i'm also pretty good at seeing through peoples bullshit
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919769]I think homosexuality should always be seen as different. I'm not homophobic, but neither do I think it's normal for a person to be attracted to the same sex, for biological reasons. Do you think a population where half the people have no desire to reproduce would be healthy? You may argue that a homosexual couple could have kids through fertilization by a 3rd person, but that way the offspring would not only miss a father figure, but also the genetic bond between children/parents would be broken and the whole concept of families starts to fall apart.[/QUOTE]Honestly I'm not sure it really matters, whether homosexuality is caused by a genetic mutation or a homosexual gene or whatever it's really truly caused by, the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals is most likely largely in favor in heterosexuals for obvious reasons. There have been other species that demonstrate homosexual behavior other than humans, homosexuality could be completely natural for all we know and Nature may have her ways of making sure the ratio between the two isn't slanted too much in favor of the sexual orientation that can't reproduce. [QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919816]well that's all nice and dandy but a population is deemed to die if it doesn't reproduce[/QUOTE]Again, that will never happen, if homosexuality is caused by a genetic mutation, then natural selection will sort everything out just as it has been doing for the past couple billion years. Nature will figure it out, that's what she does. [QUOTE=gudman;43919828]It's not like it's half the population though, nor is it ever going to be. Homosexuals are a small fraction of the overall population, and recognition of their partnership isn't going to make more people suddenly "turn gay". The fact that homosexuality is a biological thing ensures the stability of the population, the percentage is more or less constant. The bottom line is, homosexuality does not threated the population in any way.[/QUOTE]yeah basically this
[QUOTE=Simski;43919885]I was just trying to defeat him with his own logic, congrats on keeping the argument alive though[/QUOTE] you don't use broken logic to beat broken logic
[QUOTE=JurajIsNotPirat;43919816]Yes, I think adoption isn't a dependable way of creating families.[/QUOTE] oh alright. so what do you propose we do with orphans? your thinking is archaic and humanity isn't as black and white as you think. 'unbreakable genetic bond', those are just words. unless you're an orphan yourself, you have no idea whether or not your 'genetic' bond is more strong than their non-genetic one. what about all the kids who have genetic parents they fucking hate, or genetic parents that are abusive? blood connection is not what creates bonds. it's love.
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