• Microsoft issues KB3173040 as a final in-your-face reminder to upgrade to Windows 10 for free
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[QUOTE=Monkah;50723017]Both. It's my personal preference because there's something I don't like about Windows. The W10 user interface is absolutely cancerous, the telemetry is depressing, and you're forced to have timed updates/restarts unless you pay for the professional edition of the operating system. While toggleable, Microsoft puts advertisements into your user lockscreen, which I find to be disrespectful to the paying customer to begin with. The last one is pretty significant. Alongside how Microsoft essentially tried to trick users into switching over (eg: the situation where the 'x' button was the same as 'I agree') to W10, I feel like the new Windows operating systems don't really respect user control enough, to the point that I'd say I don't really feel comfortable with it. I doubt I'll ever really run into any of those problems with an Arch install.[/QUOTE] Ah alright, but of course most of what you said can be altered/removed by spending a little time on how to get around it but its your choice after all.
Upgrading to windows 10 broke all of my program associations and removed some functions that I would occasionally use It's far from perfect, I don't know why some people pretend that there's literally no reason to not switch
My personal advice is before you upgrade, expect to reinstall your OS. Its like a 50/50 chance that a lot of shit will break as a result. Especially if you have an old 7 install. And definitely shit will break if your 7 install had problems to begin with. And don't use the Windows Update method, use the Media Creation Tool because Windows 7 Update is fucking garbage bullshit. As if I have never said that already. Its my number 1 reason to be rid of Windows 7. :v: Generally, fresh installs of 10 have basically no issues after its fully patched. Worst case, driver issues or stupid program issues because of garbage programming.
[QUOTE=Demache;50723146] Worst case, driver issues or stupid program issues because of garbage programming.[/QUOTE] Most laptop users should not think about doing fresh win10 install unless their laptop came with it pre-installed. In most cases you [B]will[/B] have problems with drivers and it will be pain in the ass to fix them. I had to re-install my graphics drivers at least 10 times until I figured out which versions I need, which order I should install them and when I should apply samsung's "no display brightness control in windows 10" fix. And even after doing all this I'm still not 100% sure what made it work correctly. All I know is that after I installed AMD's crimson drivers windows decided this is not enough and installed non-working old catalyst on top of it. And all of this bullshit is on the laptop which was made in 2013 and had win8 pre-installed on it.
I have a dual boot for 8.1 and Linux mint, if I upgrade will the installer fuck with my Linux partition?
No can do Microsoft, I need to hold back the progression of technology.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;50723067]Ah alright, but of course most of what you said can be altered/removed by spending a little time on how to get around it but its your choice after all.[/QUOTE] And so I did. My laptop ran W10 for a good period of time-- I used it as a trial basis while keeping my main computer on W7. Still, I find it obnoxious and backwards that these are features of the OS in the first place. I shouldn't have to fight my own operating system in order for it to not be a steaming pile of shit.
[QUOTE=Phone-Booth;50722236]Extreme observation or not, its what I have observed for months now. One of these threads pops up threatening the end of the PC world, followed by a dozen or so people saying they had problems- sometimes major problems, but in the same breath say people should update regardless. It is an oddity. [/QUOTE] I don't know what you've been using, but guarantees on software working 100% with any configuration has never ever ever been a thing. It's a matter of weighing pros against cons, always was. For example, I'd trade my $5 bluetooth dongle that I bought 3 years ago and rarely use for faster boot speed. I'd trade being able to run some Doom clone from 1997 that I only ever re-install for nostalgia value once a year or so for playing the newest DirectX games.
man some people get unreasonably angry at people that dont want to upgrade to windows 10
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;50723044]I don't see why any of you are bitching about forced/timed updates. They literally don't interrupt a damn thing as long as you're, you know, not several months behind on shit.[/QUOTE] Not when those updates accidentally break shit irrevocably
[QUOTE=Daemon White;50722531][t]https://i.gyazo.com/eaef1a7169d0fa647f9d70924fe1a8c2.png[/t] Coulda used Tablet Mode[/QUOTE] Meh I tried it, but it's kinda messy as in Windows 8.1 there's a clean swap between a full screen menu and a desktop enviorment, whereas in Windows 10 the tablet mode just confused me.
[quote] Microsoft explains that not everyone will see the reminder. It will not appear if any of the following is true: [b]You have a recent version of the "Get Windows 10" app installed. You have selected the Do not notify me again option.[/b] Your computer is detected to be incompatible with Windows 10. [b]You have previously uninstalled Windows 10 after you upgrade.[/b] Your Windows 10 installation failed and rolled back. [b]You have hidden the "Get Windows 10" app notifications. You have disabled the Windows 10 upgrade or you have disabled the offer screen through registry key settings.[/b][/quote] crazy how i meet all of these criteria and ms still decided to show me the reminder, huh [editline]16th July 2016[/editline] i mean at least there's a "fuck off" button now so no big deal
obligatory NSA backdoor CIA conspiracy post about windows 10 being controlled by the shadow government and microsoft to spy on everything you do and record everything including your favorite pornos
[QUOTE=riki2cool;50721372]Stuck in the middle of this right now. I don't want to miss out on the new directX, but at the same time I've heard that windows 10 further kills compatibility with older games. What should I do?[/QUOTE] Windows 10 is decent, I HATE how they're pushing it, but in all honesty, its fantastic
[QUOTE=.Lain;50723541]man some people get unreasonably angry at people that dont want to upgrade to windows 10[/QUOTE] I don't really care if they want to use W10 or not, but people spreading a lot of uninformed opinions on things and turning other off strikes a bit of a nerve
[QUOTE=phygon;50723083]Upgrading to windows 10 broke all of my program associations and removed some functions that I would occasionally use It's far from perfect, I don't know why some people pretend that there's literally no reason to not switch[/QUOTE] Those are pretty minor easily fixable issues. Seriously people are being babies when it comes to 10.
[QUOTE=Saxon;50723707]I don't really care if they want to use W10 or not, but people spreading a lot of uninformed opinions on things and turning other off strikes a bit of a nerve[/QUOTE] It generally the hearsay and blatent misinformation because some bloke in the news media wants to make a quick buck. And Microsoft generally being incompetent when it comes to PR is a bad combo not to mention "let's force the OS" bullshit which makes everyone EVEN MORE knee jerk-y. And then one guy that says "my shit was all broken on launch so it has to be a shit OS". Yeah mate, all OS's are buggy at launch (XP was buggy as fuck and contrary to popular belief, 7 was too, better than Vista, but still buggy, I remember video playback being broken for awhile). Win 10 is a LOT better than it was last July. It had an entirely new public build since then. At least Explorer.exe doesn't crash on shutdown now. :v:
[QUOTE=darth-veger;50722691]I do Win 10 installs on a daily basis because it's my job, but it takes [I]literally[/I] 5 to 10 clicks to install Windows 10 in a time span of 10 minutes if you have a decent computer to start the installation. After about 30 minutes to 1 hour you return to your PC and your PC is completely upgraded after that. I had a few issues but those were always before i even started the installation, usually compatibility issues (Windows warns when a program can't run on Windows 10 or hardware that does not support it).[/QUOTE] IT's not just copying the OS itself. It's reconfiguring and/or reinstalling all of your programs, your drivers, etc that make it a pain in the ass. And then downgrading it all [b]immediately[/b]?! Yeah sorry no I don't feel like spending 8 hours of my day fucking with my operating system just to get a key for one I'm not all that interested in getting. If I'm going to go to the faff of doing that I might as well just skip the middleman, pop in my W7 disc, reinstall W7 and get it over with. Either path sees me on a fresh install of W7, only one of them doesn't involve installing W10, recording the key somewhere, then installing W7 again. And since I go 3-5 years between OS installs, by the time I found myself ready to use that free key Windows 11 would already be on the market. Also, it may be my ancient DVD drive, but it's about 2-3 hours for Windows 7 to copy files over from DVD to HDD.
My only problem was the OS being forced onto people, and considering all of the problems have come from upgrading and not a clean install, i was right.
I have the best of both worlds Windows 7 and 10. On one drive.
I upgraded from 8.1 to the one of the preview builds a month before actual release (Using my main PC without back ups, yes I'm smart), and I don't recall having any problems at all. Mind you that was a year ago. it is possible there were some minor issues that I don't remember.
if you're on 8 you have absolutely no reason not to upgrade to ten if you're on 7 then it all depends on if you use some very obscure software that compat could be improved on if feedback is provided to MS. Upgrades (unsurprising to noone) arent usually the best option and they make this clear, but a reformat is really nice anyway.
[QUOTE=raz r23;50724998]I have the best of both worlds Windows 7 and 10. On [b]one drive.[/b][/QUOTE] speaking of which [t]https://jii.moe/V1h5OLNwb.png[/t] [editline]17th July 2016[/editline] used to speak highly of this platform :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Scratch.;50726063]speaking of which [t]https://jii.moe/V1h5OLNwb.png[/t] [editline]17th July 2016[/editline] used to speak highly of this platform :saddowns:[/QUOTE] Honestly I think this is one of the worst decisions Microsoft has made recently - I wasn't impacted by it (I was grandfathered into the 25GB free tier, plus 15GB for some nonsense), but it really transforms OneDrive from a pretty great backup system to just "store your documents here I guess, maybe some photos".
[QUOTE=riki2cool;50722093]Ok, so I installed W10, and it works quite well thus far. Only issue I'm having is that windows straight up removed the program that came with my GPU that I used to manually set the speed of its fans, so now I have to find some sort of substitute[/QUOTE] MSI Afterburner. Though on two occasions when messing with my AMD card's settings in the crimson shit, with MSI Afterburner running, the fans jumped immediately to 100% and dropped back to where I have them normally set. Don't know what the deal is with that
Hey FUCKFACE. Yo. Windows 10 here. Get ur free upgrade right now. We want to reach one billion upgraders so we can tell everyone how much of a success this OS is. [QUOTE=Water-Marine;50723044]I don't see why any of you are bitching about forced/timed updates. They literally don't interrupt a damn thing as long as you're, you know, not several months behind on shit.[/QUOTE] Microsoft could fuck up big time and roll out a killer update that fucks everything up
If you game, you're crazy not to upgrade. The performance differences between 7 and 8/8.1/10 are large on newer games.
[QUOTE=riki2cool;50721372]but at the same time I've heard that windows 10 further kills compatibility with older games.[/QUOTE] Surprisingly enough I haven't really had any problems with older games. Red Alert 2 for example runs just fine. Only game I did have issues with was GTA IV. Nothing I couldn't fix with five minutes on google and a bit of tweaking though. Seems to be related to GFWL ironically enough.
[QUOTE=Zestence;50726600]Surprisingly enough I haven't really had any problems with older games. Red Alert 2 for example runs just fine. Only game I did have issues with was GTA IV. Nothing I couldn't fix with five minutes on google and a bit of tweaking though. Seems to be related to GFWL ironically enough.[/QUOTE] Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun both had broken menus for me. DirectDraw wizardry fixed it, though.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;50721499]And now it's fullscreen to showcase the unnecessary frustration you'll be dealing with in the future (unless you're on Win8 already). Good job.[/QUOTE] Have you used Windows 10?
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