• Man weighing over 1,000 pounds moved to new home with a crane
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[QUOTE=Levithan;47566181]and there are also people with mental illnesses like depression that make it nigh-impossible to even have the motivation to even TRY to lose weight[/QUOTE] If you gorge yourself on food all day and get to a point where you weight [i]half a fucking ton[/i], maybe the prospect of dying a painful death from a number of shitty medical problems should motivate you.
Murders can get more sympathy than a fat guy on FP
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47564725]Genetics don't transform air into fat cells. Look at this video [video=youtube;to7BMBJR9P4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7BMBJR9P4[/video] This is how obese people are thinking.[/QUOTE] pretty sure that was fake, i remember someone once did a calculation on that and proved it was impossible for her to eat 30,000 cal/day without dying from a ruptured digestive tract, but i could be wrong, i don't exactly trust what mr. not-doctor phil says, or any TV docktor
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;47566681]If you gorge yourself on food all day and get to a point where you weight [i]half a fucking ton[/i], maybe the prospect of dying a painful death from a number of shitty medical problems should motivate you.[/QUOTE] god im just sick of all the stigma surrounding fat people, and ESPECIALLY the widespread opinion that being fat is 100% their own fault and if they just had the WILL they could magically not be so overweight do people not know that there are a metric shit-tone of reasons for someone being fat?? it could be from not being taught how to eat properly, their family/themselves being too poor to buy healthy food, mental illness, a epigenetic predisposition to weight gain, a lifetime of low self-esteem, or straight up bad habits it blows my mind that people are so adamant on stigmatizing someone that instead deserves pity and sympathy literally in his quote he says that when he's depressed he eats a whole bunch of food, which should be a glaring red flag that he's had these feelings and obviously had depressive episodes for a loooong time considering the sheer amount of weight he's gained, but no it's really easy to just say "well you could chose NOT do that!!" When people say shit like that, I find it very hard to believe they've felt the same feelings this man has gone through, or the same state of mind someone has when they're depressed and nothing is able to bring them happiness or good feelings like eating does. Jesus, jsut looking at him should spring the thought that somewhere along the line society failed him, and he clearly didn't get the help he needs. a bypass wouldn't solve his overall problem, since what he needs is a lifestyle change, but doing something like that is really hard for a lot of people. moreso for a lot of people who are mentally ill I myself aren't too overweight, especially after cutting sodas (mostly) out of my diet, but I still somehow manage to get fast food once almost every day, because for just a few minutes life doesn't seem as shitty as it does when I eat. BUt no I've tried to start exercise, I even walk everywhere between multiple buildings and classes at my uni, and have been taking yoga and self defense, but out of all my classes those are the most difficult because of the sheer fact that I'm the fattest person in them. they're only marginally better than the jogging I've tried, which only serves to cause my exercise-triggered asthma and get stares from my neighbors my goddamn point is that people need to stop assuming that the reason people are fat is because of poor moral character, rather than maybe stopping to think that juuuust maybe there are so many reasons people can/do become so unhealthy and overweight. These people deserve compassion and sympathy rather than disgust that they can't power through their low self-esteem or poor living situation or the habit of comfort eating or chronic mental illness. And yeah, if the threat of dying so painfully isn't motivating him to get himself better, then the depression (or other misc. shitty feelings) that causes him to comfort eat himself to death must be pretty goddamn staggering
living on a college student's allowance, i still can't believe how these people can even afford to maintain that weight, i eat like a bird and i spend like 20$/day on food, how the hell can you afford to eat like 15 pizzas a day i know its not exactly their fault, but there is a limit where rationality goes out the window, weighing a ton and being unable to move makes you completely dependent on others, and their care givers should do whats right and limit these people, its not really like he's getting up and walking to the kitchen now is he? i know depression sucks and cutting him off will just make him feel worse, but there's no magic bullet to getting over food addiction like that [editline]20th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Heisenburgers;47565422]Actually, what's sad is that he wants gastric bypass surgery, but nobody will want to perform it on him.[/QUOTE] as hard as it is to type this with a straight face, if they cut him open they most certainly would not be able to close him up, his skin is too god damn stretched and theres too much fat below it, remember the muscle and fat layers are only ever supposed to be a few inches thick, on him god knows how thick those layers are. plus people like him cannot bathe and suffer terrible skin conditions as a result, itd be safer to do the procedure on an 85 year old granny than him
[QUOTE=AJ10017;47563905]mcdonalds all day every day[/QUOTE] Not even that can get you that fat. I eat garbage all the time and I'm still not even considered overweight by my BMI. It takes some serious genetics on top of a horrible lifestyle and diet from an EXTREMELY young age to get somebody that large. This man's fate is an unfortunate one. It's likely that after being raised eating so much, he lacked the sheer will to overpower his hunger. [editline]20th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=catbarf;47564936]You know, research has shown that binge eating is neurologically extremely similar to alcohol or tobacco addiction. If the guy managed to get to 1,000lbs then that sounds like a serious mental issue, and I wouldn't expect him to get better by 'just making right decisions' any more than I'd expect a binge drinker to just stop drinking. It can be done, but neurological dependency is a bitch and willpower alone probably won't work. The guy needs help.[/QUOTE] The problem is that at this point it's nearly impossible to help him lose any large amount of weight without killing him, at least in a reasonable time frame.
Fucken' Six Tits Mcgee over here
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;47566681]If you gorge yourself on food all day and get to a point where you weight [i]half a fucking ton[/i], maybe the prospect of dying a painful death from a number of shitty medical problems should motivate you.[/QUOTE] Yes, because our knowledge of lung cancer and stomach ulcers has stopped all smokers from smoking, and knowledge of violent mood swings, liver damage and poor decision-making has stopped alcoholics. Eating like this is an addiction. Eating makes you feel good, that's a fact. If anything makes you feel good, you can get mentally addicted to it, and that addiction is very hard to break because unlike most other things, there's 0 possibility of going cold turkey.
JFC At 1000 pounds, the blame is on whoever is taking care of him. He's immobile, there's someone giving him food. He has no control of his own food at this point, that's someone else responsibility at this point and they're being such a terrible enabler.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;47563980]It has nothing to do with McDonalds specifically. [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/rosspomeroy/2014/01/07/super-size-me-science-teacher-loses-37-lbs-eating-at-mcdonalds/[/url][/QUOTE] That's such a moot point though it even very specifically says that they very closely monitored what they were doing + excersized you can have a twinkie diet and be fair in weight even then
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47564725]Genetics don't transform air into fat cells. Look at this video [video=youtube;to7BMBJR9P4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7BMBJR9P4[/video] This is how obese people are thinking.[/QUOTE] Man, when the dude mentions she put a whole pack of ham into the omelette you can see her eyes pretty much light up like she was about to eat it all over again.
He's totally fucked. Even if he lost all that weight, he'd have so much excess skin that he'd still look like an alien.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47566845]living on a college student's allowance, i still can't believe how these people can even afford to maintain that weight, i eat like a bird and i spend like 20$/day on food, how the hell can you afford to eat like 15 pizzas a day[/QUOTE] This is the thing that gets me. I mean, I'm actually TRYING to gain weight, and the things that boggle my mind are 1) that people can AFFORD so much food day after day, and 2) that people are physically able to eat that much food. I feel decent if I manage to eat 2,000 calories in a day, and really happy if I push 3,000. That's why I think the "too poor to afford healthy food" idea is kinda bullshit. I have a pretty tight budget, so I try to buy the highest calorie foods I can, and sometimes it's hard to maintain a diet that gets me even SLIGHT weight gain without making me broke.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;47563980]It has nothing to do with McDonalds specifically. [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/rosspomeroy/2014/01/07/super-size-me-science-teacher-loses-37-lbs-eating-at-mcdonalds/[/url][/QUOTE] this is dumb why? It's not really what you eat, it's how much of it you eat. You can get fat on fruits and vegetables, and starve to death eating nothing but fried butter. I enjoy donuts sometimes but I'm not fat, usually whenever you hear about these types of people they eat like an entire box of donuts as a snack and wash it down with a 2-liter of coke.
I'm 6' even, and when I was on a cocktail of different medications I ended up pushing 300lbs no matter how much I worked to get rid of the weight. I've been off those meds for over a year now and I've lost over 100lbs. There [I]are[/I] some uncontrollable circumstances that can cause people to gain weight, but getting up to 1,000lbs, hell even 500lbs, is fucking disgusting no matter what kind of shit you're dealing with.
[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;47568163]I'm 6' even, and when I was on a cocktail of different medications I ended up pushing 300lbs no matter how much I worked to get rid of the weight. I've been off those meds for over a year now and I've lost over 100lbs. There [I]are[/I] some uncontrollable circumstances that can cause people to gain weight, but getting up to 1,000lbs, hell even 500lbs, is fucking disgusting no matter what kind of shit you're dealing with.[/QUOTE] Look man, at the end of the day if you're consuming more calories than you're burning you will gain weight, if you consume less you will lose weight. There might be other circumstances that alter how effectively you burn or gain weight, but the bare facts of the matter are that more calories in with not enough of them getting burned equals weight gain and vice versa.
there's also the fact that there's pretty much no possible safe way for this guy to return to a healthy body weight.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47568183]Look man, at the end of the day if you're consuming more calories than you're burning you will gain weight, if you consume less you will lose weight. There might be other circumstances that alter how effectively you burn or gain weight, but the bare facts of the matter are that more calories in with not enough of them getting burned equals weight gain and vice versa.[/QUOTE] I'm well aware of that. Why do I get the feeling that you think I was trying to defend people that let themselves gain a lot of weight? I was just saying that there are some situations beyond people's control in which they can gain quite a bit of extra weight. Sometimes it can be worked off, sometimes it's not as easy, but there's no excuse to get as heavy as [I]this[/I] guy did.
[QUOTE=SuperHoboMan;47568217]I'm well aware of that. Why do I get the feeling that you think I was trying to defend people that let themselves gain a lot of weight? I was just saying that there are some situations beyond people's control in which they can gain quite a bit of extra weight. Sometimes it can be worked off, sometimes it's not as easy, but there's no excuse to get as heavy as [I]this[/I] guy did.[/QUOTE] Yeah no I'm not saying you're defending this sort of shit, but the whole "sometimes it's really hard to not gain weight" thing is bullshit, it's basic math, if you're gaining weight and you're not okay with it, it is literally a case of just reducing how much you're eating. This guy's too far gone, it's pretty much a waste of time in his case cause no matter what you do we can't repair the kind of damage that's going to have been done to this guys body, fuck if he tried to walk I wouldn't be surprised if his knees would just splinter.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47568237]Yeah no I'm not saying you're defending this sort of shit, but the whole [B]"sometimes it's really hard to not gain weight"[/B] thing is bullshit, it's basic math, if you're gaining weight and you're not okay with it, it is literally a case of just reducing how much you're eating[/QUOTE] What you're saying is true, it is basic math. I'm speaking from personal experience. For several years, I was eating one, maybe two small meals a day. It was difficult for me to motivate myself to get out of bed. That and the medication I took very specifically stated that a side effect was weight gain, and that it was effecting my metabolism. I obviously wasn't burning many calories because I was barely moving around, so I gained weight. That's just how things were for me. It [I]was[/I] hard for me not to gain weight. In my situation, even though I was barely eating, I was still gaining weight. I was gaining weight and I was not okay with it, but there was nothing I could do about. In most cases, yeah, the you can control whether or not you're gaining or losing weight, but there [I]are[/I] situations where it's out of someone's control.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47566845]living on a college student's allowance, i still can't believe how these people can even afford to maintain that weight, i eat like a bird and i spend like 20$/day on food, how the hell can you afford to eat like 15 pizzas a day[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Loofiloo;47568138]This is the thing that gets me. I mean, I'm actually TRYING to gain weight, and the things that boggle my mind are 1) that people can AFFORD so much food day after day, and 2) that people are physically able to eat that much food. I feel decent if I manage to eat 2,000 calories in a day, and really happy if I push 3,000. That's why I think the "too poor to afford healthy food" idea is kinda bullshit. I have a pretty tight budget, so I try to buy the highest calorie foods I can, and sometimes it's hard to maintain a diet that gets me even SLIGHT weight gain without making me broke.[/QUOTE] If you're buying food on a college campus or in a college town you're probably getting ripped off. $20 a day for food is a hell of a lot of money if you're buying ingredients and cooking it yourself, that's $600 a month on just food. Most people in the US can do $200-300/mo, less with some planned frugality. That said, the issue with 'too poor to afford healthy' is that not everywhere in the US has the same food prices. There are a lot of parts of the country, particularly cities, where McDonald's gives you far more calories for the dollar than anything healthier. People get stuck depending on fast food for meals because it's actually all they can afford- actually, just look Sableye's example above, $20 a day for food? You could order a pizza for less than that and that's more than a day's worth. It all depends on where you're living. Not that anything like that is the case here, but just food for thought.
[QUOTE=catbarf;47568463][B]If you're buying food on a college campus or in a college town you're probably getting ripped off.[/B] $20 a day for food is a hell of a lot of money if you're buying ingredients and cooking it yourself, that's $600 a month on just food. Most people in the US can do $200-300/mo, less with some planned frugality. That said, the issue with 'too poor to afford healthy' is that not everywhere in the US has the same food prices. There are a lot of parts of the country, particularly cities, where McDonald's gives you far more calories for the dollar than anything healthier. People get stuck depending on fast food for meals because it's actually all they can afford- actually, just look Sableye's example above, $20 a day for food? You could order a pizza for less than that and that's more than a day's worth. It all depends on where you're living. Not that anything like that is the case here, but just food for thought.[/QUOTE] I live in Philly and the closest grocery store is Trader Joes. Everything is expensive there. And at least for me personally, I can't lose weight while eating carbs, so that pretty much removes the cheapest food options (rice, pasta etc). Meat is expensive.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;47568604]I live in Philly and the closest grocery store is Trader Joes. Everything is expensive there. And at least for me personally, I can't lose weight while eating carbs, so that pretty much removes the cheapest food options (rice, pasta etc). Meat is expensive.[/QUOTE] You can lose weight eating carbs. A calorie is a calorie, whether it comes from meat, bread, pasta, chocolate or McDonalds. The body doesn't care. If you're not losing weight, then you need to look at how many calories you're eating. Also, I don't know about your area, but I would assume vegetables are cheap everywhere. Vegetables are the kings of low calorie density.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47563902]I feel bad for him. No matter what your view on overweight people is, nobody can get like that purely by just being willingly lazy.[/QUOTE] He sure as shit didn't get to that point by being healthy, if he did then damn rewrite the laws of physics because someone just created matter/energy from nothing.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;47568604]I live in Philly and the closest grocery store is Trader Joes. Everything is expensive there. And at least for me personally, I can't lose weight while eating carbs, so that pretty much removes the cheapest food options (rice, pasta etc). Meat is expensive.[/QUOTE] That's kind of my point- prices vary depending on where you live, so in your situation I could see someone turning to fast food for cheap calories. In your case, I'd look towards supplementing low-cost cuts of meat (whole chickens are great) with vegetables and beans. I live a minimal-carbohydrate diet myself and there are a lot more options than meat. Even if you have to go a bit further to get it, it'll probably pay for itself over Trader Joe's stuff. By the way, where are you in Philly? I used to live in the suburbs just north of the city and the biggest competitor to Trader Joe's for us was a local grocery store. Farmer's markets too were a good source of produce. [QUOTE=RVFHarrier;47568736]Also, I don't know about your area, but I would assume vegetables are cheap everywhere.[/QUOTE] Bad assumption, and this is why people unjustly blow off the 'too poor to eat healthy' argument. There are a lot of places in the US where fresh produce is seriously expensive and impractical as the basis of a diet. [QUOTE=acds;47568775]He sure as shit didn't get to that point by being healthy, if he did then damn rewrite the laws of physics because someone just created matter/energy from nothing.[/QUOTE] The point is that you don't get to 1000lbs by just being lazy, it represents a mental issue of some kind that causes him to seriously overeat. Think of it like any other addiction. Obviously the addict bears some measure of blame, but you can't expect them to just suddenly muster up willpower and kick the habit, and they deserve some sympathy. Food is especially difficult for a lot of people because you can't quit cold turkey, you have to keep eating but in controlled moderation, and when human psychology evolved around eating whenever you can because you're starving most of the time it's extremely difficult.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47568183]Look man, at the end of the day if you're consuming more calories than you're burning you will gain weight, if you consume less you will lose weight. There might be other circumstances that alter how effectively you burn or gain weight, but the bare facts of the matter are that more calories in with not enough of them getting burned equals weight gain and vice versa.[/QUOTE] The human body isn't exactly an energy balance, if you don't eat at all or below a certain threshold the body assumes its in a crisis and starts to conserve energy even more. That's why modern diets tend to involve eating food that doesn't trigger this response, fasting would only make this guy worse. Also hormones and metabolism play a big part in how well food is consumed. The problem with diets and this guy is they also need exercise to burn off calories and give the body a reason to convert fat, but he obviously isn't getting on a treadmill any time soon so its very difficult to loose a meaningful amount of weight when your immobile like that. That guy in mexico that weighed 1200 lbs dropped his weight to like 800 lbs but he still couldn't walk or do any serious exercise.
What I find most amazing is that in the video, he manages to actually get up and sit on his bed. Weighing that much, that's quite the achievement.
[QUOTE=Drury;47569351]What I find most amazing is that in the video, he manages to actually get up and sit on his bed. Weighing that much, that's quite the achievement.[/QUOTE] Weighing that much and not having the fat crush your windpipe is an achievement in itself.
God damn, I can't even imagine being that fat. I weigh 128lbs and am agile as fuck.
[QUOTE=Levithan;47566181]and there are also people with mental illnesses like depression that make it nigh-impossible to even have the motivation to even TRY to lose weight[/QUOTE] Friend of mine who was overweight since high school was actually diagnosed with depression and after some trial and error with medicines to help treat it, finally found some that gave him the motivation to start weight lifting. He ended up losing 60 pounds. [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;47566681]If you gorge yourself on food all day and get to a point where you weight [I]half a fucking ton[/I], maybe the prospect of dying a painful death from a number of shitty medical problems should motivate you.[/QUOTE] Frankly this sounds like it's a good indication of depression because it shows apathy for the individuals own life.
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