Terry Pratchett in call for law to allow assisted suicides in UK
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Suffering may be part of universal nature, but it's still not good. Forcing people to continuing existing despite their continued suffering is effectively torture if there's no total hope of a cure for their terminal condition, and torture is a trait of sadism. So families who keep their grandparents alive against their will are effectively sadists.
Also, I support this law.
[QUOTE=markg06;16499961]More like I don't give a shit, if I wanted to take my own life I'm going to do it not go on about how I've got a life threatening illness and look at me now change the laws to match my specific demands.[/QUOTE]
More like you've completely missed the point. It's not about killing yourself because you're fed up with living (where the answer might be playing in traffic). It's about dying peacefully with family and with a sane mind maybe a week before the illness would kill you anyway.
Not to mention, anyone who's present at your death could be implicated and face a good 15 years in jail.
[QUOTE=markg06;16499961]More like I don't give a shit, if I wanted to take my own life I'm going to do it not go on about how I've got a life threatening illness and look at me now change the laws to match my specific demands.[/QUOTE]
Most people who suicide are pathetic selfish people, who would rather inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people just to end what they call suffering. These people who want the right to die are all people who have genuine medical problems that are incurable. Some have problems that cause them a great deal of pain all the time. Terry Pratchett is suffering from a disease that attacks his rational thought. Apparently he has already started to forget how to do basic things. In the end, if these people want a true end to their own suffering, then let them go how they want to go.
But surely if assisted suicide was legal, doctors could kill patiants then say "Oh yeah he wanted me to do it."
If someone has a terminal illness I guess it's alright, but sometimes even then people do sometimes miraculously get out of of it. I don't think depressed people should be able to do it though.
[QUOTE=madmanmad;16500691]But surely if assisted suicide was legal, doctors could kill patiants then say "Oh yeah he wanted me to do it."[/QUOTE]
That's euthanasia, and would still remain illegal. Assisted suicide is not something that goes on behind closed doors, but in full view of the family.
[QUOTE=madmanmad;16500691]But surely if assisted suicide was legal, doctors could kill patiants then say "Oh yeah he wanted me to do it."[/QUOTE]
Which is why it needs to be done on a case by case basis.
Also [b]this is about terminally ill people who are going through such great suffering and are going to die soon. This is NOT about people who are depressed. Why prolong someone's agony when they want to end it now?[/b]
When my father died of cancer, his final hours were so much pain. I wasn't there when he died, but I was there the night before.
I wish we could have ended his pain earlier.
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Why does it need to be legalized? If somebody [I]really[/I] wants to die, they can go put a bullet in their brain.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16502475]Why does it need to be legalized? If somebody [I]really[/I] wants to die, they can go put a bullet in their brain.[/QUOTE]
Get out of my thread Sam Tiligan, you don't know shit.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16502475]Why does it need to be legalized? If somebody [I]really[/I] wants to die, they can go put a bullet in their brain.[/QUOTE]
Because these are people who cannot do that. These are people who can't move, speak, or write. These people are trapped in their own pain. Maybe you should actually reading the thread instead of just the title.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16502475]Why does it need to be legalized? If somebody [I]really[/I] wants to die, they can go put a bullet in their brain.[/QUOTE]
There are many less painful ways to go than a bullet to the brain.
[QUOTE=madmanmad;16500691]But surely if assisted suicide was legal, doctors could kill patiants then say "Oh yeah he wanted me to do it."[/QUOTE]
There would need to be a signed waiver or agreement, with witnesses. It wouldn't be the kind of shit where you go to your local doctor, tell him you want to die then he puts a cap in your ass.
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Vonnegut contemplated this kind of stuff from the beginning of this works... He was a smoker, in his words, "Because it is an honorable method of suicide."
Funny that he and Pratchett are among my very favourite authors. Maybe Pratchett should have taken up chain smoking, then he wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
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