• How to raise boys to be good men.
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[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is) Why so many dumb ratings. You can see many men moaning everyday for getting a too low pay who never asked for a raise. Or men always complaining about girls who never had the guts to ask one out. Letting other people do the first move sure is feminine in my opinionn[/QUOTE] lmfao [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TorashVD;43308671]If you hit the guy who just harassed your girlfriend or talked shit about friends, family etc. , which is considered a manly move, most people will stare at you and your girlfriend will most probably say to you that you are "embarrassing" her.[/QUOTE] you're right man, we're becoming way too feminine, condemning assaulting people over words
[QUOTE=.Lain;43308563]there's a general stigma surrounding men in society and sex. it's almost treated like a reward and that can have pretty bad effects on how people interact with partners in general[/QUOTE] There's also the issue of boys being bullied because they're virgins. I remember quite well in school to be treated like an idiot or called gay because I hadn't had sex yet. I'm sure quite a number of boys go seeking sex just to rid themselves of the 'stigma' of being a virgin with just anyone instead of waiting for a partner they should have it with.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308671]If you hit the guy who just harassed your girlfriend or talked shit about friends, family etc. , which is considered a manly move, most people will stare at you and your girlfriend will most probably say to you that you are "embarrassing" her.[/QUOTE] hitting someone for talking shit should be considered stupidity, not manly sorry. hence "be the bigger man and move on" and even then, confronting a dude for harassing your girlfriend is an accepted thing in society??? where does this girl who just been harassed by a dude and got saved by her boyfriend then get embarassed exist do you live on planet earth
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43308676]lmfao [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] you're right man, we're becoming way too feminine, condemning assaulting people over words[/QUOTE] Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308671]If you hit the guy who just harassed your girlfriend or talked shit about friends, family etc. , which is considered a manly move, most people will stare at you and your girlfriend will most probably say to you that you are "embarrassing" her.[/QUOTE] If you physically harm someone just for harassing or talking shit to people you know, odds are you have a whole set of other problems already that need help. [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a real fast way to land yourself in jail with assault charges. It's not manly, it's fucking stupid.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] life isn't a movie [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] remember that scene in 'place beyond the pines' where the guy was abusing his girlfriend so ryan gosling smashed his head in with a wrench? his reaction was the right decision in my eyes but most people will call him 'aggressive' 'childish' etc
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308671]If you hit the guy who just harassed your girlfriend or talked shit about friends, family etc. , which is considered a manly move, most people will stare at you and your girlfriend will most probably say to you that you are "embarrassing" her.[/QUOTE] There is a fuckload of stuff under the banner of masculinity and it can be sorted into good aspects and bad aspects. Lashing out and reckless violence are bad things regardless, and selling them under masculinity assuming they must be good is idiocy.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43308716]If you physically harm someone just for harassing or talking shit to people you know, odds are you have a whole set of other problems already that need help. [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] [/QUOTE] This behavior was totally accepted in the first half of the 20th century. Now it's not, (I think only one is agreeing with me here, the only one who read the book i mentioned which talked about this problem) So being manly was changed into something more feminine. IF everyone agreed with me, this statement would be disproved. Majority disagreed with me, so it is proven that being manly now is more feminine that it was. These are my last words on this topic, my opinion surely is unpopular, and I am wasting my time trying to convince somebody. Sounds like a real fast way to land yourself in jail with assault charges. It's not manly, it's fucking stupid.
[quote]This behavior was totally accepted in the first half of the 20th century. Now it's not, (I think only one is agreeing with me here, the only one who read the book i mentioned which talked about this problem) So being manly was changed into something more feminine. IF everyone agreed with me, this statement would be disproved. Majority disagreed with me, so it is proven that being manly now is more feminine that it was. These are my last words on this topic, my opinion surely is unpopular, and I am wasting my time trying to convince somebody.[/quote] guys pls somebody call 911 my sides hurt im gonna die of laughter the logic is so /r/redpill majority disagrees with me, therefore i am right ahhahaha
challenging people to duels and killing them over honour used to be totally accepted too. if less violence is your idea of a feminized society i would much rather be feminine
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] Yeah, no. Fighting isn't gonna solve anything for anyone, just cause you think they deserve it doesn't mean it's the right action. Anger can be calmed, but if you just let it out by fighting, you only make it worse.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308776]This behavior was totally accepted in the first half of the 20th century. Now it's not, (I think only one is agreeing with me here, the only one who read the book i mentioned which talked about this problem) So being manly was changed into something more feminine. [/QUOTE] So being a MAN now involves adhering to almost cartoonish stereotypes?
I always have difficulty explaining how to get girls to other guys since I got my first girlfriend by sending her super deepthroat as a joke.
[QUOTE=Coffee;43308828]I always have difficulty explaining how to get girls to other guys since I got my first girlfriend by sending her super deepthroat as a joke.[/QUOTE] So basically you were yourself and had a laugh there ya go
[QUOTE]"Where do you draw the line?" asked 15-year-old Tom. "I've been broken up with for not kissing a girl. But if I kiss her too soon, what if she feels taken advantage of or hurt?" [/QUOTE] You know, this sort of made me sad because it kinda shows that teenagers/kids don't understand how valuable communication is in relationships. Like, if I want to have sex and my partner doesn't, I want it to be made clear right away, and same if it's the other way round. Like, I do feel we need to be more respectful of other people's boundaries. [QUOTE]Encourage your son to avoid sending any pictures of his body using social media. No sexting. No oral sex parties.[/quote] Am I the only one who thinks this is a ridiculous comparison, like what
[QUOTE=Rocko's;43308808]Yeah, no. Fighting isn't gonna solve anything for anyone, just cause you think they deserve it doesn't mean it's the right action. Anger can be calmed, but if you just let it out by fighting, you only make it worse.[/QUOTE] I really never understood the logic behind "might makes right".
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] are you a vcr
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;43308856]You know, this sort of made me sad because it kinda shows that teenagers/kids don't understand how valuable communication is in relationships. Like, if I want to have sex and my partner doesn't, I want it to be made clear right away, and same if it's the other way round. Like, I do feel we need to be more respectful of other people's boundaries. [/quote] When I first got in a relationship with my current girlfriend, we both agreed from the very start to be as very open about anything and everything with each other to avoid any issues. So far, 4 months in, we haven't had any arguments or such due to lack of communication. It also helps that we're both very direct, blunt people. [QUOTE=NiandraLades;43308856]Am I the only one who thinks this is a ridiculous comparison, like what[/QUOTE] To be fair, minors sending pictures of themselves over social media can get them in trouble with the authorities. As for the oral sex parties, it's a quick way to get an STD.
If the future of society is going to be more "feminine" (whatever the hell that means) then considering current trends where violence is on a decline and poverty is generally being eradicated, the future society would be different from this one in the following aspects: Less crime Less war Less poverty Less disease Less malnutrition Less child mortality Less child abuse Less rape etc Understandably, these things are seen to be negative, for they undermine masculine identity and contribute towards degeneracy and treating others like human beings.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43308894]To be fair, minors sending pictures of themselves over social media can get them in trouble with the authorities. As for the oral sex parties, it's a quick way to get an STD.[/QUOTE] Ohh, that's a fair point I didn't think of. It just felt like the two activities were both on separate scales.
[QUOTE]So what is the best way to raise a boy who has old-fashioned values?[/QUOTE] Teach him that he's better than women and minorities and that he can do whatever he wants to them without anybody caring.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is) ][/QUOTE] it's true girls don't like nice guys, they like good guys good guys are the ones that are nice and confident, and that gives girls major erections. [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] nice guys are pathetic really muh need for validation
[QUOTE=bobsters37;43308964] girls don't like nice guys, they like good guys [/QUOTE] Most girls fantasize about guys who argue about videogames all day.
Guys, I'm pretty sure the point of the article is to say that people need better rolemodels for sex than J biebs, a porn star, and miley cyrus. "WHAT!?! People should try educating their kids to not fuck so indiscriminately?!? That is sooo outdated!" [editline]25th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43308858]I really never understood the logic behind "might makes right".[/QUOTE] It is the direct consequence of right is subjective.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is) Why so many dumb ratings. You can see many men moaning everyday for getting a too low pay who never asked for a raise. Or men always complaining about girls who never had the guts to ask one out. Letting other people do the first move sure is feminine in my opinionn[/QUOTE] My head is spinning. Did you really make the effort to make this mind-numbing and harsh on purpose?
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308353]The biggest problem is that the raise of boys is now primarily in the hand of women. Kindergartner and elementary school teachers are mainly women who raise boys to be way more feminine than back in the early 20th century. (Read "No more Mr. Nice Guy", it shows exactly this problem.)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TorashVD;43308465]Many men today are not bold any more, far less aggressive (In a good way, like aggressive in business) etc. They become the "Nice Guy", which mostly have bad cards getting a decent woman. ( Read the book, It's not about being a jerk, but being a man. Being nice is not bad, being to nice is) Why so many dumb ratings. You can see many men moaning everyday for getting a too low pay who never asked for a raise. Or men always complaining about girls who never had the guts to ask one out. Letting other people do the first move sure is feminine in my opinionn[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] Textbook example of the kind of attitude that perpetuates dumb and ultimately damaging gender stereotypes It's like turning a rock and finding someone who is completely unaware of the societal changes that have occured in the last 50 years
[QUOTE=demoguy08;43309048]Textbook example of the kind of attitude that perpetuates dumb and ultimately damaging gender stereotypes It's like turning a rock and finding someone who is completely unaware of the societal changes that have occured in the last 50 years[/QUOTE] Muh "traditions" [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme reply" - MaxOfS2D))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43308715]Some people deserve a fist in the face. Remember the scene out of "Good Will Hunting" where Will talks shit about his psychologists wife(His wife was dead)? His reaction(Pinning him to the wall) was the right decision in my eyes, but most people would call him "aggressive" "childish" etc. Like you did just now.[/QUOTE] remember the scene in Star Wars where Darth Vader cuts off his son's hand? It was the right decision in my eyes but most people would call him 'evil' or 'a Sith Lord'.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;43308146]you can fuck on the first date, just make sure to get them dinner first[/QUOTE] fuck that, i multitask i take yo momma from behind while shes hunched over eating from the trough
tbh I must be a retard as I dont view sex as a reward, only the same way I view winning a game of dota 2, or eating ice cream as a reward as long as I enjoy something why the fuck boast about it and think more of myself because I "get it" fuck social norms [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] I'm going to love every single woman, even those I bring home to one nighters why? because fuck [editline]26th December 2013[/editline] everyone who gets fucked or fucks deserves to be loved, and it's the norm for any person looking to get fucked or to fuck, admitted or not this nice guys dont get the pussy and omg you have to be masculine to get to bed with someone with boobs thing makes me cringe so much, the simple thing that this is even an issue to begin with fuck overanalyzing, start fucking and loving
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