• World's Oldest Dog dies at 21 (147 dog years)
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[QUOTE=Zeddy;17072369]Cats are smarter. I've been over this before in many threads. Dogs are just active, that doesn't make them smarter. That boy on the playground with the IQ of 67 may be running and jumping and smiling and playing, but he isn't any less retarded. That boy with the IQ of 161 may be sitting around not doing much, but that doesn't mean he is less of a genius. You aren't smart for running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Activity is not relative to intelligence. Dogs are instinctual animals, they function solely off instinct. Cats however do not. They are capable of individual thought. They can reason and rationalize and care for themselves without the need for human intervention. Dogs, they really can't. Ever seen a cat open a door on its own with its paws? We have four that know how. Ever seen a cat use a toilet? We've had three do that. [img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4316/toilettrainedcat22aug20e.jpg[/img] Also, the oldest cat on record currently died two years ago at 38 years old. Hell, we had a diabetic cat who lived to be 22. He only died because he was sleeping when an earthquake hit, throwing him out of a window seal and sending him in to shock.[/QUOTE] It's sitting on the fucking toilet, and it's name is Panther. Fuck yes.
[QUOTE=The golden;17070771]We do we use dog years? A year is a complete revolution of the earth around the sun. How the fuck does that differ for another animal?[/QUOTE] 1 dog year =7 human years in terms of age( I believe). That's why dog's are pretty much fully grown when they're 3 human years old.
Uh, 21 is the oldest a dog has lived to? That can't be true, my grandmother's dog is 19 and is perfectly healthy -- I don't see it dying any time soon.
[QUOTE=scout-on-a-train;17070248]21 is very old for a dog. The oldest ones I've seen were around 13 and they were grey and tired.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the average age for a dog is around ten years, give or take a few. However, it is generally older for cats, which can live into their late teens, and there have been many reports of cats in their twenties. My cat right now is 16, with diabetes, and he's still going strong. I have a theory that he'll outlive my 8 year old cat and my 1 year old dog because he's a fucking tank. Edit: Yeah the oldest cat was 38. Damn. [editline]06:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=MR-X;17070780]I wouldn't say better, You don't see bomb sniffing cats, drug sniffing cats or attack cats. Oh that is right because cats are practically useless and lazy and you can't count on them to do anything but lay and lick their own arse.[/QUOTE] Eh, well, cats can't be trained as easily as a dog can, because they have more independent personalities and less imprintable minds than dogs. Dogs are almost always searching for a way to satisfy their master, while cats do whatever they want.
[QUOTE=Tyvak;17072655]Uh, 21 is the oldest a dog has lived to? That can't be true, my grandmother's dog is 19 and is perfectly healthy -- I don't see it dying any time soon.[/QUOTE] Dogs usually tend to get sick and die within a year, Or just die for no reason when they seem perfectly healthy. Well from experience that's what I've seen... Unless they are suffering from some slow killing disease.
It has nothing to do with training, you can train anything with some time. And you prove my point with the whole independent personalities bullshit (Which by that you mean more stuck up, selfish and overall arseholes), Cats are selfish little pricks that don't want to do anything but lick their own arse. At least a dog i can count on. Dogs are called man's best friend for a reason. Dogs also have personality they're not fucking robots. If my house is being broke in to, i can count of my dog to bark and intimate the person and even go as far as to attack the intruder. What would a cat do? Most likely lay there like a fat arse or go hide like the pussy it is. Like i said claim your cat is smarter and better, but i don't see it using any of its smarts or doing anything for society.
[QUOTE=shinobiboy77;17070563]cat's aren't smarter than dogs, biologically speaking at least.[/QUOTE] Even if Cat's weren't smarter than dogs, they're cuter.
[QUOTE=Imakuni?;17073139]Even if Cat's weren't smarter than dogs, they're cuter.[/QUOTE] I counter [img]http://tvindy.typepad.com/photos/old_pics/butt.jpg[/img]
The dog was so old he could buy alcohol.
[QUOTE=SKuM;17070326]My cat is 23. Bitch.[/QUOTE] Your cat is going to die very soon. Faggot.
Dog older than me...
[QUOTE=scout-on-a-train;17070248]21 is very old for a dog. The oldest ones I've seen were around 13 and they were grey and tired.[/QUOTE] OH SHIT, mine's 11 and a bit grey...I don't want mine to die.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;17072369]Cats are smarter. I've been over this before in many threads. Dogs are just active, that doesn't make them smarter. That boy on the playground with the IQ of 67 may be running and jumping and smiling and playing, but he isn't any less retarded. That boy with the IQ of 161 may be sitting around not doing much, but that doesn't mean he is less of a genius. You aren't smart for running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Activity is not relative to intelligence. Dogs are instinctual animals, they function solely off instinct. Cats however do not. They are capable of individual thought. They can reason and rationalize and care for themselves without the need for human intervention. Dogs, they really can't. Ever seen a cat open a door on its own with its paws? We have four that know how. Ever seen a cat use a toilet? We've had three do that. [img]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4316/toilettrainedcat22aug20e.jpg[/img] Also, the oldest cat on record currently died two years ago at 38 years old. Hell, we had a diabetic cat who lived to be 22. He only died because he was sleeping when an earthquake hit, throwing him out of a window seal and sending him in to shock.[/QUOTE] Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence. Look it up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IQ tests only measure the mathematical, logical thinking of a person? Ever seen a dog open a door with its nose? I have. My dog did that. Ever seen a dog warn you that she had to go to the bathroom? My dog did. She always did. Sometimes she would just walk outside if the door was slightly opened and head back inside. Cats are not smarter than dogs. They are merely stubborn pricks. Similar to a child of any intelligence that refuses to do something he does not want. Also, headless chickens run around because the nerve endings being stimulated, they are already dead. Your analogies are flawed. When they are running around they have no actual timing in their physical activity. They are just running around [i]mindlessly[/i] I love cats, they are awesome, but they are not more intelligent than dogs just because their brains are programmed differently.
I'm pretty sure really small dogs can live even longer.
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;17074632]Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence. Look it up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IQ tests only measure the mathematical, logical thinking of a person? Ever seen a dog open a door with its nose? I have. My dog did that. Ever seen a dog warn you that she had to go to the bathroom? My dog did. She always did. Sometimes she would just walk outside if the door was slightly opened and head back inside. Cats are not smarter than dogs. They are merely stubborn pricks. Similar to a child of any intelligence that refuses to do something he does not want. Also, headless chickens run around because the nerve endings being stimulated, they are already dead. Your analogies are flawed. When they are running around they have no actual timing in their physical activity. They are just running around [i]mindlessly[/i] I love cats, they are awesome, but they are not more intelligent than dogs just because their brains are programmed differently.[/QUOTE] Indeed. I've seen several dogs who are able to open doors. Teaching a cat to use a litterbox or a toilet is not unlike teaching a dog to do his business in the back yard. People prefer the backyard because most dogs are significantly larger then cats and not nearly as agile. Dogs live in packs, and as such they already understand social order and class responsibilities. That's why dogs are used in everything from sniffing bombs to leading the blind. It's their job in the pack to do it, and they understand that. Cats are more independent creatures, and don't really see a family as a unit that needs to work together. Does that mean cats are any dumber? Of course not. It's like comparing apples and carrots. [QUOTE=gnome;17075388]I'm pretty sure really small dogs can live even longer.[/QUOTE] They do. Larger breeds usually only live to about 10-11 years of age, but smaller dogs generally live 13+. Mutts live rather long and usually have fewer health problems.
[QUOTE=Ryenoru;17070268]Most dogs live to be around 15-18. 21 is very old for them.[/QUOTE] not true. my dog lived to like 17
[QUOTE=MongfromKong;17075496]not true. my dog lived to like 17[/QUOTE] That's a difference of 28 dog-years. 119 vs 147. That's rather large.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;17072369]Dogs are instinctual animals, they function solely off instinct[/QUOTE] Wrong. Dogs are very intelligent, my dog can open doors (taught herself)
My dog died at 18 years old. My parents put him down while we were at school, so we (Me and my sister) couldn't stop them from doing it. I still miss him, and that was over a year ago.
This is just the oldest dog that was verified by Guinness World Records. There have been lots of older dogs. There are reports of a dog named "Bluey" who lived to the ripe old age of 29, although [url=http://genomics.senescence.info/species/entry.php?species=Canis_familiaris]this source[/url] says that the report of Bluey was unverified and that the maximum longevity is 24; still higher than 21. Also, [url=http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/dogyears.asp]dog years are BS[/url]. Humans only live until 122 years old maximum, so if a dog is 147 dog years, something isn't right.
Only 21? Mine died when he was 19. Was a Terrier/Mix. [img]http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/161/6/3/Goodbye_Max_by_Gubru.png[/img]
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;17074632]Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence. Look it up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IQ tests only measure the mathematical, logical thinking of a person? Ever seen a dog open a door with its nose? I have. My dog did that. Ever seen a dog warn you that she had to go to the bathroom? My dog did. She always did. Sometimes she would just walk outside if the door was slightly opened and head back inside. Cats are not smarter than dogs. They are merely stubborn pricks. Similar to a child of any intelligence that refuses to do something he does not want. Also, headless chickens run around because the nerve endings being stimulated, they are already dead. Your analogies are flawed. When they are running around they have no actual timing in their physical activity. They are just running around [i]mindlessly[/i] I love cats, they are awesome, but they are not more intelligent than dogs just because their brains are programmed differently.[/QUOTE] My cat can open a locked door.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;17076488]My cat can open a locked door.[/QUOTE] lol
My old dog found out you could open the back door to my house if you slammed your head against it hard enough.
When the world's oldest person died I didn't care but for some reason this is depressing to me
[QUOTE=Snuffy;17075473]Indeed. I've seen several dogs who are able to open doors. Teaching a cat to use a litterbox or a toilet is not unlike teaching a dog to do his business in the back yard. People prefer the backyard because most dogs are significantly larger then cats and not nearly as agile. Dogs live in packs, and as such they already understand social order and class responsibilities. That's why dogs are used in everything from sniffing bombs to leading the blind. It's their job in the pack to do it, and they understand that. Cats are more independent creatures, and don't really see a family as a unit that needs to work together. Does that mean cats are any dumber? Of course not. It's like comparing apples and carrots. They do. Larger breeds usually only live to about 10-11 years of age, but smaller dogs generally live 13+. Mutts live rather long and usually have fewer health problems.[/QUOTE] Cats are incredibly social animals and most cats form packs. They have full social hierarchies. They understand those values and family values. But like I said to the other guy who sent me a PM trying to intimidate me, cats just exhibit freewill. If you were told to beat yourself down, you probably wouldn't do it unless threatened with bodily or emotional harm. Thats not being stubborn like he's trying to imply, its being smart and exhibiting that freewill. If you do beat yourself down just because someone told you to, stay down. Don't get back up, we're better without you. People think cats are stubborn and lazy. Fact of the matter is, most people are just too stupid to know how to act with their cats. They want to treat it like a dog, and thats not a cat. Imagine someone treating you like a parakeet, not only would it be almost impossible for you to function according to their demands, you'd probably get pretty pissed off. Yeah, believe it or not, its like that with cats. If you're too stupid to treat it properly, you can't expect to get the best of results, and ultimately, your cat is probably smarter than you. Also, just to restate myself to the person who PMed me. My analogies still apply. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't right.
21, that's it? My oldest cat lived to be 23. [QUOTE=PoorFellow;17074632]Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence. Look it up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IQ tests only measure the mathematical, logical thinking of a person? Ever seen a dog open a door with its nose? I have. My dog did that.[/QUOTE] My cats do that all the time. [QUOTE=PoorFellow;17074632]Ever seen a dog warn you that she had to go to the bathroom? My dog did. She always did. Sometimes she would just walk outside if the door was slightly opened and head back inside.[/QUOTE] Cats don't notify you if they have to go to the bathroom. They just kindly shut the fuck up and use the litter box. [QUOTE=PoorFellow;17074632]Cats are not smarter than dogs. They are merely stubborn pricks. Similar to a child of any intelligence that refuses to do something he does not want.[/QUOTE] Stubborn? If a cat is trying to sleep it doesn't want to play with you, it wants to sleep. How would you like it if in the middle of the night while you're sleeping I woke you up and told you to go after a toy mouse? It's meowing at you because it's hungry? It has no way to feed itself. Before anyone says anything, yes I do love Dogs and I have one myself.
[QUOTE=ep9832;17079137]21, that's it? My oldest cat lived to be 23. My cats do that all the time. Cats don't notify you if they have to go to the bathroom. They just kindly shut the fuck up and use the litter box. Stubborn? If a cat is trying to sleep it doesn't want to play with you, it wants to sleep. How would you like it if in the middle of the night while you're sleeping I woke you up and told you to go after a toy mouse? It's meowing at you because it's hungry? It has no way to feed itself. Before anyone says anything, yes I do love Dogs and I have one myself.[/QUOTE] 1. That's nice. That doesn't help your argument one bit. 2. My cat cries constantly if he wants to go outside [i]because he can't open the door[/i] 3. That's a bad example that you made up, because I do not bother my cat when he is sleeping. In fact he is the one that bothers me when I sleep. [editline]02:24AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeddy;17078814]Cats are incredibly social animals and most cats form packs. They have full social hierarchies. They understand those values and family values. But like I said to the other guy who sent me a PM trying to intimidate me, cats just exhibit freewill. If you were told to beat yourself down, you probably wouldn't do it unless threatened with bodily or emotional harm. Thats not being stubborn like he's trying to imply, its being smart and exhibiting that freewill. If you do beat yourself down just because someone told you to, stay down. Don't get back up, we're better without you. People think cats are stubborn and lazy. Fact of the matter is, most people are just too stupid to know how to act with their cats. They want to treat it like a dog, and thats not a cat. Imagine someone treating you like a parakeet, not only would it be almost impossible for you to function according to their demands, you'd probably get pretty pissed off. Yeah, believe it or not, its like that with cats. If you're too stupid to treat it properly, you can't expect to get the best of results, and ultimately, your cat is probably smarter than you. [b]Also, just to restate myself to the person who PMed me. My analogies still apply. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't right.[/b][/QUOTE] Did you even read my post or are you just going to ignore everything I said and blindly defend cats? oh and take a look at this [quote]The thought processes of 15 cats were tested by attaching food to the end of lengths of string and observing whether they could figure out that pulling the line brought the treats closer. The cats had no problem with tackling single pieces of string. However, when faced with two options, experts discovered that unlike their canine counterparts, cats were unable to consistently pick a baited string over a dummy. Psychology lecturer Britta Osthaus, who conducted the study, said the findings shatter the myth that cats are smarter than dogs. Mrs Osthaus, of Canterbury Christ Church University, Kent, said: "This finding is somehow surprising as cats regularly use their paws and claws to pull things towards them during play and hunting. "They performed even worse than dogs, which can at least solve the parallel string task." She added that the results show that cats do not understand cause-and-effect connections between objects. The experiments involved attaching fish and biscuit treats to one end of a piece of string, placing them under a plastic screen to make them unreachable. They were tested in three ways, using a single baited string, two parallel strings where only one was baited, and two crossed strings where only one was baited. With two crossed strings, one cat always made the wrong choice and others succeeded no more than might be expected by chance.[/quote] And here's a different experiment that's rather interesting [url]http://www.livescience.com/common/media/video/player.php?videoRef=071129doggie-smarts[/url] [editline]02:42AM[/editline] i'm not saying that cats are stupid, they are indeed intelligent animals, but they are not more intelligent than dogs.
It's as if the title of world's oldest living dog is cursed or something. Also, lol@ the fact that the dog is older than probably 90% of facepunch, in human years.
[QUOTE=Bobbo666;17072693]Yeah, the average age for a dog is around ten years, give or take a few. [/QUOTE] What the fuck are you on? 12-15 Is the average...... Or so said the website I just went to.
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