• White House paints a grim fiscal picture
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Mr. Obama is just another president, he is human and does not have super powers. He does not wish to kill humans, he does not wish to do harm. People who look at him as deviant or lazy need to grow up and realize that a person in that position is likely doing whatever they can to help such a crisis. No one person caused this, not Bush, Clinton or any recent president. No one person had the power to do this. This is a mixed Capitalistic economy... if someone fucked up 80% of the fault goes to the citizens/entrepreneurs who make up the economy.
[QUOTE=Montroze;19985075]Mr. Obama is just another president, he is human and does not have super powers. He does not wish to kill humans, he does not wish to do harm. People who look at him as deviant or lazy need to grow up and realize that a person in that position is likely doing whatever they can to help such a crisis. No one person caused this, not Bush, Clinton or any recent president. No one person had the power to do this. This is a mixed Capitalistic economy... if someone fucked up 80% of the fault goes to the citizens/entrepreneurs who make up the economy.[/QUOTE] Part of our selection process for president is messed up and I don't think that is helping matters. We only ever seem to have two idiots that we can vote for and hope that the one we voted for gets in. If you vote for anyone else it just becomes a vote wasted. And the two people that we get to choose from have to have the backing of the lobbyists, thus they must have their interests at heart. They also must have the interests of their party at heart as well. In the end we have a puppet that is run by party and lobby and has the wrong peoples interests at heart. I wish we had a better system of making choices for the country.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;19979868]I laugh at you. Hail amerikkka[/QUOTE] Why don't you shut the fuck up crumpet bag.
The cycle is pretty much this: 1. Go into Depression stage 2. Go to War with war interest 3. Pull out of economy crisis 4. Rise in population 5. Rise in prosperity 6. Stay this way for about 40-50yrs 7. Reach spike in wealth, technology spike, socialization spike 8. Begin lowering in economic wealth after spike 9. "Hangover" stage, prosperity lead to debt 10. Increased population backfires as citizens reach retiring age 11. Recessive atributes lead to depression 12. Social, Economical, Technological meltdown ties with countries pulled 13. Political meltdown leads to agression, despite recent isolationism 14. War-leading to increase in jobs, decrease in population 15. Repeat from step (3. It happened in after the civil war, the country increased in population and leveled out to a somewhat exceptable stage then spiked durin the industrial years of 1900-20s. Eventually leading to depression in the 1930s. And of course now with our explosion with technological genius only naturally have we reached our spike and are now barreling down to depression.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;19970869]Typical, Bush starts two wars of occupation, cuts taxes, and spends a massive amount of money without paying for any of it. Then, the Republicans turn around and criticize Obama for the national debt a year after taking office. It's not his job to clean up their fucking mess, and he needs to do a better job of pointing out exactly who is to blame for this. Also, they're going to have to bite the bullet and raise taxes. It's the only way to deal with this, we've gone beyond the point of being able to cut spending enough to make a dent. Ending the wars might help, but that's about the only place to get real money without screwing everyone over.[/QUOTE] I agree with this post, except for the part where it's not his job to clean up their mess.
Obama has to stop being a pushover, that would solve a lot of problems.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;19984160]Don't forget bitching too! :eng101:[/QUOTE] It has been added.
[QUOTE=Jund;19985980]Obama has to stop being a pushover, that would solve a lot of problems.[/QUOTE] Obama is doing just fine. He's the only president of my lifetime who pushed for bipartisanship.
Seemed more like a "brush against" to me.
[QUOTE=Montroze;19985713]The cycle is pretty much this: 1. Go into Depression stage 2. Go to War with war interest 3. Pull out of economy crisis 4. Rise in population 5. Rise in prosperity 6. Stay this way for about 40-50yrs 7. Reach spike in wealth, technology spike, socialization spike 8. Begin lowering in economic wealth after spike 9. "Hangover" stage, prosperity lead to debt 10. Increased population backfires as citizens reach retiring age 11. Recessive atributes lead to depression 12. Social, Economical, Technological meltdown ties with countries pulled 13. Political meltdown leads to agression, despite recent isolationism 14. War-leading to increase in jobs, decrease in population 15. Repeat from step (3. It happened in after the civil war, the country increased in population and leveled out to a somewhat exceptable stage then spiked durin the industrial years of 1900-20s. Eventually leading to depression in the 1930s. And of course now with our explosion with technological genius only naturally have we reached our spike and are now barreling down to depression.[/QUOTE] If that's true then we will always be the top country in GDP.
[QUOTE=Wakka;19969492]He's doing everything in his power to ease the blow. Everything he's doing is right.[/QUOTE] Oh god I hope you're bieng sarcastic. If he's been doing everything right, he wouldn't be completely changing his plan. I mean he's already shown how much he sucks by spending his first year ignoring one of the guarantees in our constitution, popular sovereignty.
I was in the Eisenhower Executive Building today when Peter Orzag was giving the briefing on C-Span, saw him shortly thereafter. Cool stuff.
It's only money.
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;19989139]It's only money.[/QUOTE] Just like math, money is power.
[QUOTE=Dyson6;19989261]Just like math, money is power.[/QUOTE] And time is money, therefore whichever country has the most is immortal!
[img]http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/28/2D/8cdcb4b50f49282d.jpg[/img] :saddowns: Just for the record - it's not sarcastic.
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;19989139]It's only money.[/QUOTE] Which buys happiness
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