• FCC approves plan to allow paid priority on the Internet
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The last bastion of freedom has been purchased.
[QUOTE=Siminov;44818323]Well it's time to move to Europe, fuck this country. I swear we get fucked over more each passing day.[/QUOTE] If someone told me a couple years ago that in the year 2014 and going onward, U.S. corporations would go on to control everything and basically become the new U.S. government, I would've laughed in their face. Now? Not so much.
Aside from lobbying, can anyone provide me with a valid reason why ISP's should not be considered common carriers, and thus solving a good chunk of our problems? Also, how the hell does a former player of the other team become the head honcho? Did bias never cross anyones mind?
[QUOTE=Revenge282;44818926]Aside from lobbying, can anyone provide me with a valid reason why ISP's should not be considered common carriers, and thus solving a good chunk of our problems? Also, how the hell does a former player of the other team become the head honcho? Did bias never cross anyones mind?[/QUOTE] because LOADSAMONEY! he bought his way to power
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;44816445] You're not the one paying extra for 'flawless streaming access', it's the websites/organisations themselves. Not that it makes it any less scummy.[/QUOTE] Wrong. Say for example that Netflix is now required to pay an additional 300 thousand a year to X ISP now because of this. Netflix now has to make up for that 300 thousand somewhere, how does Netflix make money? Subscriptions. Netflix will then have to raise their subscription cost to make up for the new losses due to ISP bribery. They will have to pass the cost on to the consumer, there is no way the ISPs will even be remotely fair about this, and we all know it. (had they been fair we'd have fiber and a reasonable cost for internet)
Luckily competition will keep them affordable and fair.
If I'm reading this correctly then this has no impact on consumers. Why are people acting like this is worse than cancer?
[QUOTE=Scot;44819246]If I'm reading this correctly then this has no impact on consumers. Why are people acting like this is worse than cancer?[/QUOTE] [quote]opening the possibility of Internet service providers charging Web sites for higher-quality delivery of their content to American consumers.[/quote] ISPs can hold websites and services hostage basically.
[QUOTE=JustGman;44819361]ISPs can hold websites and services hostage basically.[/QUOTE] yeah websites, not users Let me direct you to a part of the article the OP neglected to include. [QUOTE]After weeks of public outcry over the proposal, FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler said the agency would not allow for unfair, or "commercially unreasonable," business practices. He wouldn't accept, for instance, practices that leave a consumer with slower downloads of some Web sites than what the consumer paid for from their Internet service provider. He said his plan asks whether paid prioritization should be banned outright, but he will still move forward with the consideration of business arrangements between Internet service providers--such a AT&T, Verizon and Time Warner Cable--and Web content providers, such as Facebook, Google and online startups. "There is one Internet. It must be fast, it must be robust, and it must be open," Wheeler said. "The prospect of a gatekeeper choosing winners and losers on the Internet is unacceptable." He stressed consumers would be guaranteed a baseline of service and that the agency would beef up enforcement of companies that strike deals that are harmful for consumers or anticompetitive. "If a network operator slowed the speed of service below that which the consumer bought, it would be commercially unreasonable and therefore prohibited," Wheeler aid. "If the network operator blocked access to lawful content, it would violate our no-blocking rule and therefore be doubly prohibited."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Scot;44819246]If I'm reading this correctly then this has no impact on consumers. Why are people acting like this is worse than cancer?[/QUOTE] Increase cost for the customer since the companies have to pay more to run the service. Increase for the customer when cheap services like netflix gets crippled to remove competition for the cable companies. Basically giving the isp powers to censor anything they want or blackmail companies with dial up speeds.
who even invented capitalism "huh, a system which will only possibly create corruption. i like this, i am going to use this system for a massive country. good idea"
[QUOTE=Scot;44819382]yeah websites, not users Let me direct you to a part of the article the OP neglected to include.[/QUOTE] What part of the website/service will just pass that cost on to the consumer don't you have the ability to comprehend? It's going to happen, and you're ignorant to thing otherwise.
[QUOTE=draugur;44819478]What part of the website/service will just pass that cost on to the consumer don't you have the ability to comprehend? It's going to happen, and you're ignorant to thing otherwise.[/QUOTE] ISPs don't have to pay shit and websites aren't being forced to pay anything, why would prices increase?
[QUOTE=Scot;44819491]ISPs don't have to pay shit and websites aren't being forced to pay anything, why would prices increase?[/QUOTE]Quite literally because they can.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44819547]Quite literally because they can.[/QUOTE] They always have been able to.
Absolute bollocks that this is going to happen, if there's anyway Australians can help we'd be more than happy to The last thing anyone wants is this ruling to spread around the world
[QUOTE=Scot;44819573]They always have been able to.[/QUOTE] And that's the problem. FCC was supposed to stop that.
This [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/25jw0u/do_your_part_to_protect_net_neutrality_the/]sticky on Reddit[/url] seems to sum up what every American who uses the internet should be doing right now So if you're American go do this or the internet will break and it'll all be on you. Yes, you personally. I know who you are.
[url]https://twitter.com/TomWheelerFCC/status/467015521620082688[/url] Those comments.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44819576]Absolute bollocks that this is going to happen, if there's anyway Australians can help we'd be more than happy to The last thing anyone wants is this ruling to spread around the world[/QUOTE] Yeah, put in a good word for me down there with the Australian/NZ government so I can get out.
[QUOTE=Keys;44819952]Yeah, put in a good word for me down there with the Australian/NZ government so I can get out.[/QUOTE] Just come anyway, Americans have close ties with Australia so getting a visa wouldn't be a problem
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