• EA changes their story on why they are not making Games for the Wii U: 'online engagement too small,
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[QUOTE=Makol;41365015]Rumor has it EA wanted Origin to be part of Nintendo's online service. Which according to some people would make it an "Origin Console" or something. Nintendo said no, EA got mad.[/QUOTE] Not really lol. Did you even research this at all? EA wanted online features of their games to run through Origin, just like how it works on the PS3 and 360. Nintendo was like "no you gotta use the nintendo stuff" so EA went "nevermind then." Nobody ever said that they wanted to take over the ENTIRE Wii U and have it run through Origin, not at all. The "origin console" shit is a stupid term made up by stupid Kotaku-tier journalists.
Before posting I double checked to see if anything since the original rumor has changed and what you're saying showed up no where. All I got was articles about EA constantly changing their stance on the Wii U, the original "Origin Console" rumor, a few articles talking about Nintendo not wanting Origin on the Wii U, and stuff about EA wanting Nintendo's online service use their net code. But there is obviously more too it than that seeing as they allowed Ubisoft to release a Uplay App on the Wii U and allow Uplay integration.
as I said in the other thread regarding EA and the Wii U: the whole "social console" thing needs to stop. Nintendo's the only one that actually still promotes socializing while gaming with local couch gameplay, everyone else is online play. And didn't EA say they WERE gonna make games for the Wii U? They changed their minds again? Bunch of fickle bastards
[QUOTE=Makol;41368555]Before posting I double checked to see if anything since the original rumor has changed and what you're saying showed up no where. All I got was articles about EA constantly changing their stance on the Wii U, the original "Origin Console" rumor, and stuff about EA wanting Nintendo's online service use their net code.[/QUOTE] [quote] When Nintendo announced the Wii U in 2011, EA immediately came off as its strongest advocate. Riccitiello talked of an "unprecedented partnership", and EA execs constantly talked up the console in the months that followed, sharing their excitement with the world, saying the Wii U was real next-gen and not transitional. There were reports that EA was helping Nintendo with its online infrastructure. [b]Then came rumors that the Wii U would use EA's Origin as its online platform.[/b] That of course didn't materialize, and incidentally neither did that unprecedented partnership. .... So what prompted EA's U-turn? We'll likely never know. [b]We don't even know if the Origin rumor was true, but it's interesting to speculate.[/b] I don't know if that's the real reason EA changed its mind, but given how quickly and drastically it happened, I can think of no other reason. What do you guys think?[/quote] [url]http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/CaimDark/did-ea-sour-on-nintendo-because-of-origin--243977.phtml[/url] [quote]Asked whether the full Origin experience will become available on Nintendo's Wii U system, Moore told CVG: "We haven't made any announcements on that". "Origin continues to be a PC-centric service, one that's moving quickly to mobile, but as things evolve in the coming years we'll look at where the demand is. But at the moment Origin is very much PC centric and mobile centric." [b]Earlier this week it was revealed that Electronic Arts had updated its user licence agreement to explain that all of the publisher's Wii U games will be tied to an Origin account.[/b] The deal between Nintendo and EA that has led to this decision is still unclear.[/quote] [url]http://www.computerandvideogames.com/374913/origin-on-wii-u-not-likely-soon-ea-exec-suggests/[/url] So, first source. Like many other sources, Destructoid confirms that the "origin console" BS is a bunch of stupid rumors that people have failed to prove true or not. Second source confirms what I said, about EA games on the Wii U requiring an Origin account, so that means that the games would have some of EA's online framework. I can't recall Nintendo ever allowing anything like this on the original Wii, so this is probably where the disagreement took place. What's happening now between EA and Nintendo is fucking myopic, because like 30 different PR guys from 12 different studios around the world are saying completely different things. First you have that one senior computer science director guy on Twitter saying that the Wii U had crappy hardware, you have John Ricky saying a few stupid things during interviews, and you have this guy giving his own reason. One can easily assume that EA isn't doing shit with the Wii U right now because a) the console's launch was shaky and they want to see big bucks roll in before they invest b) they don't want to waste time having their developers work with a relatively new piece of hardware when they're not sure if it'll work out or not c) MMMMMMMONEY
[QUOTE=Kegan;41368628]as I said in the other thread regarding EA and the Wii U: the whole "social console" thing needs to stop. Nintendo's the only one that actually still promotes socializing while gaming with local couch gameplay, everyone else is online play. And didn't EA say they WERE gonna make games for the Wii U? They changed their minds again? Bunch of fickle bastards[/QUOTE] But the best part about what they said is the Wii U having weak online when the Miiverse is extremely active and compared to the online communities on the other consoles is much more friendly.
[QUOTE=Makol;41368670]But the best part about what they said is the Wii U having weak online when the Miiverse is extremely active and [B]compared to the online communities on the other consoles is much more friendly[/B].[/QUOTE] To be fair THAT part is a little forced seeing as less than friendly posts get filtered
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41368654]-stuff-[/QUOTE] cool Thanks for letting me know what I've been calling a rumor is nothing more than rumor and reminding me that EA cannot make up their minds when it comes to what they should do with the Wii U. BUT there is still the Uplay thing which is what apparently EA wanted to do. If Nintendo allowed Ubisoft to do it why didn't the allow EA to do it too? No one really knows, but again this implies that EA may have been trying to do more than just integrate Origin in the Wii U games.
[QUOTE=Makol;41368670]But the best part about what they said is the Wii U having weak online when the Miiverse is extremely active and compared to the online communities on the other consoles is much more friendly.[/QUOTE] I think that what he means by "strong online" is like, what the 360 has. How many people played big games like Call of Duty on the Wii compared to the 360 and PS3? Fucking nobody. The Wii U many have a ton of cool online community junk like the "y cant metroid crawl" stuff, the mii plaza, the drawing you can do and shit, etc, but right now the new console doesn't have a HUGE online community. It's completely dumb to want to release one of your big franchises like Fifa or Battlefield if nobody's going to play them, compared to the bazillions of people that play them on the other consoles.
[QUOTE=Kegan;41368693]To be fair THAT part is a little forced seeing as less than friendly posts get filtered[/QUOTE] I've seen people call each other asshole or draw dicks and have nothing happen to them :v:
[QUOTE=Makol;41368728]cool Thanks for letting me know what I've been calling a rumor is nothing more than rumor and reminding that EA cannot make up their minds when it comes to what they should do with the Wii U. BUT there is still the Uplay thing which is what apparently EA wanted to do. If Nintendo allowed Ubisoft to do it why didn't the allow EA to do it too? No one really knows, but again this implies that EA may have been trying to do more than just integrate Origin in the Wii U games.[/QUOTE] nothing any of these articles have said anything that suggests this at all. blind speculation will not get either side anywhere.
idk It's just weird to me that Uplay got the OK from Nintendo but Origin didn't even though they're kind of the same thing.
[QUOTE=Makol;41368846]idk It's just weird to me that Uplay got the OK from Nintendo but Origin didn't even though they're kind of the same thing.[/QUOTE] did a ubisoft guy ever say what kind of online they're going to have? an account system? their own infrastructure?
It works the same way as it does on the 360 and PS3 from what I can remember, I don't have any Ubisoft games on my PS3 and it's been a while since I touched a 360. You sign in when you start up the game or just skip it, it's completely optional. But it also has it's own separate app for checking points earned and what you want to unlock in your games with those points. [editline]8th July 2013[/editline] Actually, the whole thing about it being optional may be why Nintendo allowed Uplay to be on the Wii U.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41362360]What's wrong with offline games?[/QUOTE] Five years ago EA was fine with making primarily offline, singleplayer games. It's just obvious rent-seeking, EA doesn't want one $60 game sale, they want one $60 game sale and years of microtransactions and DLC that push the total revenue over $100 per buyer.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41369016]did a ubisoft guy ever say what kind of online they're going to have? an account system? their own infrastructure?[/QUOTE] uPlay is an app on the Wii U, and all Ubisoft games cross-reference with it.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;41369211]Five years ago EA was fine with making primarily offline, singleplayer games. It's just obvious rent-seeking, EA doesn't want one $60 game sale, they want one $60 game sale and years of microtransactions and DLC that push the total revenue over $100 per buyer.[/QUOTE] Are you for real? Can you name an $60 EA game that will easily run a player over 100 dollars PER BUYER through years of DLC and microtransactions?
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41369733]Are you for real? Can you name an $60 EA game that will easily run a player over 100 dollars PER BUYER through years of DLC and microtransactions?[/QUOTE]Assuming that you bought Mass Effect 3 at $60, acquiring all of the story-driven DLC would add an extra [url=http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content]$50[/url] (give or take a couple cents) and raise the overall price to something in the range of $110. Not counting aesthetic, "cheat", multiplayer, promotional tie-in, or previous installment storyline dlcs which ME3 may become fragmented without, of course.
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