• EA to Wii U Owners who want to Play Madden 25: 'Play Last Year's Verison Instead'
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[QUOTE=Fangz;41161057]He does defend EA vigorously in all EA news articles though.[/QUOTE] this guy doesnt blindly hate these people, what a fanboy
Milkandcooki doesn't do it to be a fanboy. I will agree with him that some of the posts here (mine included) were pointless, and the EA hate bandwagon has only gotten worse lately, despite how some of it is "justified" in many people's eyes. But you shouldn't be trying to say his opinion is null or dumb over allegations that he's a fanboy. He isn't trying to be a fanboy. He's trying to get reasonable responses out of people rather than "I DONT LIKE EA GRRRR."
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;41160214]Does it really matter? It's Madden, what could possibly change that would make it worth shelling out another $70 in a few months?[/QUOTE] for many people the roster change is worth the price apparently also online
[QUOTE=YouWithTheFace.;41161245]for many people the roster change is worth the price apparently also online[/QUOTE] This is really what it comes down to. Who cares if WE don't like the game. We're obviously not the target audience. People want a new roster and they gladly pay for it. If they didn't want to pay for it, they would have trouble selling the game, thus they wouldn't keep doing the new game every year thing. It sucks for wii-u users I guess, but obviously EA sports isn't interested in developing madden further for the wii-u and doesn't think it will hurt their sales enough to not put it on that system. You aren't entitled to a game on your system just because it's on another.
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;41160107]who plays madden anyway[/QUOTE] I'm not huge on football but it's a fun party game imo.
[QUOTE=darkzero226;41161184]Milkandcooki doesn't do it to be a fanboy. I will agree with him that some of the posts here (mine included) were pointless, and the EA hate bandwagon has only gotten worse lately, despite how some of it is "justified" in many people's eyes. But you shouldn't be trying to say his opinion is null or dumb over allegations that he's a fanboy. He isn't trying to be a fanboy. He's trying to get reasonable responses out of people rather than "I DONT LIKE EA GRRRR."[/QUOTE] you're allowed to not like things but it gets ridiculous when you pretty much MAKE reasons to not like something. misquoting things, conspiracy theorist bullshit, awful misleading titles in articles, dismissing business choices because they don't pertain to YOU and YOU alone, overreacting, using common anti-ea buzzwords like "greedy/moneygrubbing/evil/etc" are all stupid things that a lot of people do.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41161380]you're allowed to not like things but it gets ridiculous when you pretty much MAKE reasons to not like something. misquoting things, conspiracy theorist bullshit, awful misleading titles in articles, dismissing business choices because they don't pertain to YOU and YOU alone, overreacting, using common anti-ea buzzwords like "greedy/moneygrubbing/evil/etc" are all stupid things that a lot of people do.[/QUOTE] To be fair, EA hasn't had the best PR decisions the last few years.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41162688]To be fair, EA hasn't had the best PR decisions the last few years.[/QUOTE] and they've not been improving? like, at all? [url]http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-27-ea-drm-is-a-failed-dead-end-strategy[/url]
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41162761]and they've not been improving? like, at all? [url]http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-27-ea-drm-is-a-failed-dead-end-strategy[/url][/QUOTE] Of all the examples you could have chosen you picked Sim City? Are you daft? You'd have been WAY smarter to pick them dropping online passes. At least then you'd have something that wasn't a load of bollocks.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;41161183]this guy doesnt blindly hate these people, what a fanboy[/QUOTE] Blind hate is hate without reason. EA has bought up some of my favorite dev houses over the years, ran them into the ground, and disbanded them. Also, the fact EA has a really hard time listening to feedback, which was extremely frustrating for me for a few betas I played before I gave up on the company. EA has always been a company of stockholders first, and gamers second, which has lead to rushed products, bad PR decisions, and profit before community. In short, I didn't start off hating EA, they earned it. [editline]24th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;41162761]and they've not been improving? like, at all? [url]http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-27-ea-drm-is-a-failed-dead-end-strategy[/url][/QUOTE] That was trying to put a spin on something hackers disproved later.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;41162795]Of all the examples you could have chosen you picked Sim City? Are you daft? You'd have been WAY smarter to pick them dropping online passes. At least then you'd have something that wasn't a load of bollocks.[/QUOTE] oops, wrong article :V. search for that dead-end quote because i thought it related to the online passes. [url]http://www.gamespot.com/news/eas-online-pass-not-coming-back-6410518[/url]
The only person I know that would care is already set on PS4.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;41162939]The only person I know that would care is already set on PS4.[/QUOTE] yeah, another big thing is that i'm pretty sure mmmmmost of madden's demographic has a 360/ps3 and/or plans to buy a one or ps4
why do any of you care. Like any of you own a wii u and those of you who do probably don't care enough to buy madden. As seen Blythe amount of sales madden 13 for the wii u got. Only 32,000. That's nothing [editline]24th June 2013[/editline] This is a perfectly reasonable decision
Or the fact that nobody has a WiiU therefore nobody will buy it.
Release a free update that changes Madden 2013 to Madden 2014 (or however they're named) :v:
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41160256]calling out all of the stupid dismissive posts that say "the games suck, i don't play them, they're all the same" that appear in literally every sports game thread[/QUOTE] There hasn't been much change in the FIFA games. Nothing that couldn't be patched for free.
Holy crap, ea telling us not to buy the newest iteration? Too bad madden is shite
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41162761]and they've not been improving? like, at all? [url]http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-03-27-ea-drm-is-a-failed-dead-end-strategy[/url][/QUOTE] Well duh no wonder they said that, they had to back themselves up after Sim City was a complete disaster. What do you expect them to say besides just sit there and let the game they worked on for a long while to sink due to the DRM, and have their company be called out for DRM as well. They did need something to make people to think they changed, that's hardly PR at all, it's just PR that benefits them after they fucked up. [editline]24th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;41162956]yeah, another big thing is that i'm pretty sure mmmmmost of madden's demographic has a 360/ps3 and/or plans to buy a one or ps4[/QUOTE] Quite surprisingly, the Wii U does have a market with Madden, their online area has a lot of players(a lot of players that can't continue the series, even if it doesn't change besides new players you could create, or more ads on stadiums.)
people who are saying "this is fine there's no problem with this" and "madden is shit anyway lmao!" are dumb and don't understand sports games or the people who play them people love sports. fp doesn't. okay we know that you don't need to post in every thread about an ea sports game letting everyone know that you don't like sports not being able to play the latest version of madden or fifa is a big deal to a lot of people - the tiny changes they make each year, which might seem stupid to someone who doesn't share the same interests, matter to a lot of people. the way the ball is simulated, the way the ai acts on the pitch, the physics in the tackles, and the accuracy of the rules and teams, is paramount to the fans. whether you feel this constitutes a new game or not is besides the point here: the issue is that lots of fans, unless ea releases some sort of patch to the old game to update the statistics and teams n stuff, are going to miss out on a lot of the current and up-to-date detail they love [editline]24th June 2013[/editline] i bet lots of the same people who are saying "it's fine there's no issue with this" would have been up in arms back when cliffy b was asked the question "what do you think about people who don't like the new gears of wars game?" and he said "they should play the old one"
[quote] "We don't have any plans on turning off the off switch," [/quote] you mean....turning the switch back on????
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41160155]anything out of EA's mouth that isn't "i love you pc gamers you're always right we'll stop making games that aren't even marketed towards you, abandon origin for steam, and give out all of our games for free" is worthy of seething rage on this forum[/QUOTE] Oh hey, it's that bandwagon accusation post again. Nevermind the fact that there are tons of perfectly valid reasons to dislike EA (How many studios have they shut down?), we'll sweep that under the rug and call it a bandwagon to dismiss the opinions of many, whether or not that is actually the case. Congratulations, you've managed to make more mistakes, blind assumptions, and fallacies in one sentence than most Facepunchers can manage in a 2000-word essay.
[QUOTE=deggemannen;41164221]There hasn't been much change in the FIFA games. Nothing that couldn't be patched for free.[/QUOTE] Yes there has? They've been significantly tweaking the engine and various game modes for the past four years and have actually developed a new engine for FIFA14 (as well as other EA sports titles).
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;41160242]the fuck are they supposed to say instead?[/QUOTE] "we're a blatantly anti-consumer company and we're already guaranteed our profits so we don't give a fuck about you" would be refreshing. they shouldn't have to say anything at all because they should just port the sports game. better for everyone
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;41165563]Oh hey, it's that bandwagon accusation post again. Nevermind the fact that there are tons of perfectly valid reasons to dislike EA[/QUOTE] but this wouldn't be one of them
Playing sports games on a video game console, never got it and never will.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41162798]Blind hate is hate without reason. EA has bought up some of my favorite dev houses over the years, ran them into the ground, and disbanded them. Also, the fact EA has a really hard time listening to feedback, which was extremely frustrating for me for a few betas I played before I gave up on the company. EA has always been a company of stockholders first, and gamers second, which has lead to rushed products, bad PR decisions, and profit before community. In short, I didn't start off hating EA, they earned it..[/QUOTE] sorry but I consider dismissing someone's defense of a topic because they're a 'fanboy' as a pretty good indicator of blind hate
[QUOTE=Greenen72;41168497]sorry but I consider dismissing someone's defense of a topic because they're a 'fanboy' as a pretty good indicator of blind hate[/QUOTE] I recommend you read milkandcooki's posting history in all EA threads before you push this subject further. For example, he posted the Sim City article of them denying that the reason they did the always online wasn't DRM, but Sim City was using cloud technology via streaming, even though hackers disproved this later on by successfully running the game offline debunking there reasoning, as an argument that EA has been changing in there ways. If you really think calling someone a fanboy when they defense arguements do not even makes sense is blind hate, I wonder what you opinion on what disagreement is.
and in any case, hating ea isn't bad as long as you have good reason. There are some on this forum who spew blatant lies because they either don't know or don't care about the truth, and as far as I care being dishonest like that in criticizing something is enough reason for me to call them out on their shit. [editline]asd[/editline] [QUOTE=Fangz;41168593]I recommend you read milkandcooki's posting history in all EA threads before you push this subject further. For example, he posted the Sim City article of them denying that the reason they did the always online wasn't DRM, but Sim City was using cloud technology via streaming, even though hackers disproved this later on by successfully running the game offline debunking there reasoning, as an argument that EA has been changing in there ways. If you really think calling someone a fanboy when they defense arguements do not even makes sense is blind hate, I wonder what you opinion on what disagreement is.[/QUOTE] sorry that I don't stalk milkandcooki and don't care what he's said before. what I really have the beef with is that what he's saying now is being dismissed out of hand by someone who apparently cares enough about the subject to call milk out but not enough to actually give a substantive argument or even any contribution to the discussion
Even by sports game standards I think Madden / NBA games are too boring. The earlier [I]Street[/I] games were some of my favorites, NFL / NBA Street 1-2 had a fantastic style and feel to it. I guess some like Mario Kart and some like Gran Turismo.
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