Abbas accused Israeli rabbis of calling for the poisoning of Palestinian water
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[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50609840]Good points on how to solve it? All we see here is how we tried to muddle the root of the conflict by going "It's everybody's fault. There not much we can do", which almost everybody understood since the beginning.[/quote]
It's amazing how you use such big words to describe as if we came into a big country with sunshine and rainbows and just massacred everyone and took over.
Everyone here gave good points regarding the conflict. ScreamingGerbil pointed out that both factions are here to stay and need to work together to end this thing peacefully. But you probably didn't even bother reading that.
[quote]The UN plan does not consider what the already-established country, Palestine, wants. It was forced upon. How do we expect they won't retaliate?[/quote]
How do you expect someone to take a country like Palestine seriously?
Their government are a bunch of ruthless tyrants who openly call for deaths of innocent people all while ignoring their own citizens and using their deaths for their own political agenda.
If you think it was really "forced upon them" then read one of the previous posts look for the partition plan.
[quote]And Arab's losing does not even remotely justify taking more of their land. What are we, barbarians?
What pisses me off is your method of trying to cover the origin of this dilemma, by averting people's attention to every pebble on the side of the road, to justify your crime.[/quote]
Spare me your useless lectures and get off your moral high horse.
Some posters here pointed out that both parties are in the wrong and should work together in order to achieve peace.
BUT YOU? You're just sitting in the back crying about justice. This conflict started more than 50 years ago and you're still using your emotions instead of your mind.
I'm pretty sure buying land from Arab landowners isn't a crime, but once the arab community has problems with the jewish community and refuses to negotiate terms, then i'm not gonna complain if things don't go their way. Palestine had so many missed opportunities they preferred to throw away. Why are you so tempted about giving them back the land? Do Jews in Europe protest about their old homes being taken away in World war 2? Did Jews from Arab countries got their property back after their exodus? They didn't. And yet they moved on, unlike Palestinians.
[quote]It's clear as day that no one side will compromise. Fights are inevitable. But if you decided to be a robber, then be a proud one. Don't try to justify your crime. Don't whimper and cry victim when the houseowner hit you back.[/quote]
Do me a favor and study the conflict more. Don't play victim when you target a country's civilian population and pretend you are fighting against oppression.
And now it's wrong to have morals. No wonder.
You don't take a country seriously, so it's okay to trample upon them? What is this shit?
Even asking them to move on after that? Dude
People ain't blind. Please.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50608839]Please tell me you're just joking and not actually one of those conspiracy theory idiots?[/QUOTE]
Eh, not full blown conspiracy nut, but pretty close. I just like to take jabs at the tinfoils.
"Fluoride is good for you except at the dentist - don't swallow that shit."
Usually when I put the clown I'm just being spooky or just fucking around. :clown:
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50610099]And now it's wrong to have morals. No wonder.
You don't take a country seriously, so it's okay to trample upon them? What is this shit?
Even asking them to move on after that? Dude
People ain't blind. Please.[/QUOTE]
What morals are you talking about? The Palestinian people are continually fucked over by their leaders. Arafat had billions stashed away that he skimmed from international aid while the Hamas leadership is sitting on another few billion in Qatar. The PLO pays terrorists who are captured while performing acts of terror.
Compare this to the side that's one of the most gay friendly countries on earth, has Muslim Arabs in all places in society, is democratic, and which consistently has gone out of its way to prevent excessive Palestinian civilian deaths, even when it's dangerous to its own soldiers. The Palestinians show their gratefulness by using human shields.
hakimhakim is a good example of how Muslims outside the Middle East try way too hard to fit in with their Arab counterparts by pointing all blame on Israel while ignoring the history of the conflict.
Yes what the Israeli government doing right now in excusable but don't be ignorant and say that the Jews came in and swoop up all the land of the Levant while the innocent Palestinians watched when it was their own damn fault that they rejected the partition plan which favored the Arab majority and went in at the Israelis for no reason than the fact that some of their leaders could not handle the fact that a Jewish state would exist.Need I remind you that there two previous massacres of Palestinian Jews two decades before the creation of Israel?
You people make me laugh lmao
There's a pretty bad trend when it comes to political discussions here (and online in general) where people tend to let their emotions set their opinions in stone. Which is natural, but doesn't really further the conversation. A good political debate should focus more on finding solutions rather than antagonizing the opposing side, since that makes both sides lock up and divert their attention to retaliating back and forth.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50608623][b]They are desperate because you guys fucking took everything they had.[/b] Don't say that you never expected that.
If you're gonna be a robber then you must accept the risk that some people will fight back. Nobody cares about how fancy a robber pants is, and how 'civilized' they carry themselves.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tarver;50610569][b]hakimhakim is a good example of how Muslims outside the Middle East try way too hard to fit in with their Arab counterparts by pointing all blame on Israel while ignoring the history of the conflict.[/b]
Yes what the Israeli government doing right now in excusable but don't be ignorant and say that the Jews came in and swoop up all the land of the Levant while the innocent Palestinians watched when it was their own damn fault that they rejected the partition plan which favored the Arab majority and went in at the Israelis for no reason than the fact that some of their leaders could not handle the fact that a Jewish state would exist.Need I remind you that there two previous massacres of Palestinian Jews two decades before the creation of Israel?
[b]You people make me laugh lmao[/b][/QUOTE]
Bolded statements are kind of what I'm talking about, this whole "you did this" and "but they did that" back and forth you see in a lot of Israel related threads in SH. The statements contain truth, but they're muddied by an aggressive or cynical rhetoric. IMO the best way to change a status quo is to encourage people to think of why the situation isn't working and how it can be changed. When you apply the actions of a faction to a person you're debating in such a way you're not encouraging deep thought, you're trying to draw a reaction. Not trying to take shots, those were just 2 available examples. Hell even [url="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1324537&p=42864048&viewfull=1#post42864048"]I'm guilty of this.[/url]
I'm personally just sick of people trying to antagonize each other instead of empathizing. Even outside the web, events like the one described in the OP and Netanyahu's [url="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/17/on-israeli-election-day-netanyahu-warns-of-arabs-voting-in-droves/"]'call to action' ("The arabs are voting in droves")[/url] are basically incitement against the other side used to serve an interest. How can we attain peace when we're always at each other's throats?
Since I've been grinding this whole "both sides" argument into the dirt without actually suggesting any actions I might as well contribute my 2 cents on what we should strive to accomplish:
-Both governments in power have to go. Israel's current government thrives on fear mongering and ignores a lot of foreign advice/condemnation since it plays into showing the ruling parties as saviors of sorts. Which is a very easy way to get a large majority of the more impulsive and emotional voters. I'd start pointing out all the evil shit Hamas does to keep itself in power but that's a very, very long list.
-Start educating the next generation to strive for peace. No more glorification of war and terror. No more "occupying jews" or "murderous arabs". No more revising history books to show good guys and bad guys.
-Treat all terror equally. A terrorist is a terrorist and all should be punished equally regardless of where they came from or what their ideologies are.
-Stop the sanctions on both sides, weakening the economy is a surefire way to get people angry and desperate.
-Maybe turn Jerusalem into a vatican-like mini state, which will be sort of a neutral zone for both countries to feel safe in while not excluding anyone from reaching their religious sites.
-Realize that the actions of the few should not apply to the majority, and end collective punishment.
-Agree on a fucking land deal already (Probably the most difficult part due to military infrastructure and natural resources).
not even going to debate the nonsense stupid notion that whatever some group of people in a not organised way do, is the same, ethically and morally, as what a STATE does.
Worse yet, saying somehow the palestinians got it coming to them. Boy, if the Israel state was a palestinian and not a jew one, and it did that -What Israel is doing- I would TOTALLY be denouncing them.
Thing is, RIGHT NOW, the one who's got the POWER is ISRAEL. Idk how you can't see that. And cut the bullshit with the attacks. Jesus Christ dude even Sharet, 60 years ago, say that to pay back with blood being a state was a completely retarded idea.
Anyone spending two minutes in B'Tselem and Yesh Din will understand why what Israel is doing is completely despicable and inhuman.
RzDat, if you can bring me ONE instance of the Palestine Police and Palestine Court arresting prosecuting and then sentencing a Israeli to jail because he fucked up some house, killed some kid or throw some rocks, I'll shut up and eat all my ideas and say that both sides are fucked.
Until then, Jehovahspeed doing mind games.
[url]https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/01/19/occupation-inc/how-settlement-businesses-contribute-israels-violations-palestinian[/url]
[url]http://www.btselem.org/settler_violence/law_enforcement[/url]
[url]http://www.btselem.org/settlements[/url]
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/1.606836[/url]
Sorry, fired over complaining about food.
[QUOTE]-Treat all terror equally. A terrorist is a terrorist and all should be punished equally regardless of where they came from or what their ideologies are.
[/QUOTE]
Nope. Not the same.
Terror from the state is worse than terror from an organised group or a non-state entity.
After all is said and done, we can be pretty damn sure that the conflict won't end until one side literally had the other stomped under their feet.
It doesnt matter matter how gay-tolerance or how shiniy your turd is, or how many centuries passed by, it doesnt make your heinous crime right.
All of the retaliation by Palestine, and all of your respond back to them, is rooted to you conquest a half century ago. Nobody forgot about that. We can't hide that. It still is the source of the problem. It can't be overlooked. It doesnt get better over time.
I totally understand that you guys got some grudge with the world for what they had done to you in the past, but now you're doing the same thing to another helpless party.
The world is not blind. If not for USA influence, I shudder to think what the world will do to you guys right now.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50615056]After all is said and done, we can be pretty damn sure that the conflict won't end until one side literally had the other stomped under their feet.
It doesnt matter matter how gay-tolerance or how shiniy your turd is, or how many centuries passed by, it doesnt make your heinous crime right.
All of the retaliation by Palestine, and all of your respond back to them, is rooted to you conquest a half century ago. Nobody forgot about that. We can't hide that. It still is the source of the problem. It can't be overlooked. It doesnt get better over time.
I totally understand that you guys got some grudge with the world for what they had done to you in the past, but now you're doing the same thing to another helpless party.
The world is not blind. If not for USA influence, I shudder to think what the world will do to you guys right now.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;50611871]RzDat, if you can bring me ONE instance of the Palestine Police and Palestine Court arresting prosecuting and then sentencing a Israeli to jail because he fucked up some house, killed some kid or throw some rocks, I'll shut up and eat all my ideas and say that both sides are fucked.[/QUOTE]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching]Well, there was this one time that ended horribly wrong...[/url]
And I quote:
[quote] Israel Defense Forces reservists, Vadim Nurzhits (sometimes spelled as Norzhich) and Yossi Avrahami (or Yosef Avrahami), who had accidentally entered the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah in the West Bank and [B]were taken into custody by PA policemen to the local police station.[/B][/quote]
[quote] Jamal Tirawi the Palestinian Intelligence chief at the Mukata'a nearby, only intervened hours after the second soldier lay dying[/quote]
Also thanks for the sources, i'm reading them now.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50615056]After all is said and done, we can be pretty damn sure that the conflict won't end until one side literally had the other stomped under their feet.
It doesnt matter matter how gay-tolerance or how shiniy your turd is, or how many centuries passed by, it doesnt make your heinous crime right.
All of the retaliation by Palestine, and all of your respond back to them, is rooted to you conquest a half century ago. Nobody forgot about that. We can't hide that. It still is the source of the problem. It can't be overlooked. It doesnt get better over time.
I totally understand that you guys got some grudge with the world for what they had done to you in the past, but now you're doing the same thing to another helpless party.
The world is not blind. If not for USA influence, I shudder to think what the world will do to you guys right now.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for proving my point that talking to you is like talking to a wall.
[QUOTE=RzDat;50615263]
Thanks for proving my point that talking to you is like talking to a wall.[/QUOTE]
The wall goes both ways, just in case you failed to realize that after all these years.
The wall that you guys built.
Gaza flotilla raid. Raiding and killings on a peace expeditions. That event alone shows where you stand with the rest of the world.
[url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla[/url]
Raid and kill them. Then brand them as resisting. Same MO as your other countless aggressions. I dont bother with giving more; you guys know better
Did you seriously use the Gaza Flotilla raid as an example for your point?
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50615347]The wall goes both ways, just in case you failed to realize that after all these years.
The wall that you guys built.
Gaza flotilla raid. Raiding and killings on a peace expeditions. That event alone shows where you stand with the rest of the world.
[url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla[/url]
Raid and kill them. Then brand them as resisting. Same MO as your other countless aggressions. I dont bother with giving more; you guys know better[/QUOTE]
The article you linked says that Military equipment, knives and bulletproof vests were found on board.
That's a funny way of defining a "peace expedition"
[QUOTE=RzDat;50615594]The article you linked says that Military equipment, knives and bulletproof vests were found on board.
That's a funny way of defining a "peace expedition"[/QUOTE]
The 'military' equipment that that was on board was night vision goggles and binoculars.
Even Bear Grylls carry knives. Even I have multiple knives. They are on an expedition for god's sake. Do you expect them to use knives to fight the whole Zionist?
Bulletproof vest, because they knew how kindly Israel tend to treat others. Even if they are not Palestinian. Born out of your paranoia and arrogance.
And the expedition is not even in Zionist waters, or even Palestinian, yet they still got attacked. That's how gay-friendly Zionist is with the rest of the world.
Just cut the monkeyshines. Everybody knows that all that you ever did was for the subjugation of more Palestinian land. Instilling conflicts to justify your attack on Palestine should they retaliate, seeding terrors on others for helping Palestine, and countless other atrocities which are doable, but never done by other people, because they knew shame.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50620745]The 'military' equipment that that was on board was night vision goggles and binoculars.
Even Bear Grylls carry knives. Even I have multiple knives. They are on an expedition for god's sake.
Bulletproof vest, because they knew how kindly Israel tend to treat others. Even if they are not Palestinian. Born out of your paranoia and arrogance.
And the expedition is not even in Zionist waters, or even Palestinian, yet they still got attacked. That's how gay-friendly Zionist is with the rest of the world.
Just cut the monkeyshines. Everybody knows that all that you ever did was for the subjugation of more Palestinian land. Instilling conflicts to justify your attack on Palestine should they retaliate, seeding terrors on others for helping Palestine, and countless other atrocities which are doable, but never done by other people, because they knew shame.[/QUOTE]
Right so that's why we completely withdrew from Gaza, because we wanted to control more Palestinian land. Even the organizer of the flotilla admitted they grabbed weapons from idf soldiers [URL="http://https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/israel-news/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929&ved=0ahUKEwjM5_b6m8_NAhXo5YMKHQ0jBI4QFgg1MAQ&usg=AFQjCNFotxxhOshcT4_AbVg473K0anYTcA"]http://https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/israel-news/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929&ved=0ahUKEwjM5_b6m8_NAhXo5YMKHQ0jBI4QFgg1MAQ&usg=AFQjCNFotxxhOshcT4_AbVg473K0anYTcA[/URL]
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50620769]Right so that's why we completely withdrew from Gaza, because we wanted to control more Palestinian land. Even the organizer of the flotilla admitted they grabbed weapons from idf soldiers [URL="http://https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/israel-news/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929&ved=0ahUKEwjM5_b6m8_NAhXo5YMKHQ0jBI4QFgg1MAQ&usg=AFQjCNFotxxhOshcT4_AbVg473K0anYTcA"]http://https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/israel-news/gaza-flotilla-organizer-admits-activists-seized-weapons-from-israeli-soldiers-1.293929&ved=0ahUKEwjM5_b6m8_NAhXo5YMKHQ0jBI4QFgg1MAQ&usg=AFQjCNFotxxhOshcT4_AbVg473K0anYTcA[/URL][/QUOTE]
So you momentarily behave, maybe for a time for being under international community scorn. So what? The bulk of the land is still being occupied. You prove nothing.
Who wouldn't in that situation? It was self-defense. With your reputation for aggression, anybody would have look at you as no more than pirates in that situation. Anybody with a spine would try to at least resist. After all, Israel is the initial aggressor in that event. The ships are in international water. You've committed an international crime. But its not like you haven't already.
And your link is dead.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50620745]The 'military' equipment that that was on board was night vision goggles and binoculars.
Even Bear Grylls carry knives. Even I have multiple knives. They are on an expedition for god's sake. Do you expect them to use knives to fight the whole Zionist?
Bulletproof vest, because they knew how kindly Israel tend to treat others. Even if they are not Palestinian. Born out of your paranoia and arrogance.
And the expedition is not even in Zionist waters, or even Palestinian, yet they still got attacked. That's how gay-friendly Zionist is with the rest of the world.
Just cut the monkeyshines. Everybody knows that all that you ever did was for the subjugation of more Palestinian land. Instilling conflicts to justify your attack on Palestine should they retaliate, seeding terrors on others for helping Palestine, and countless other atrocities which are doable, but never done by other people, because they knew shame.[/QUOTE]
Okay you caught me
The sniper scopes, binoculars and night vision goggles were actually meant for Palestinian children to play hide and seek in the dark while the camouflage is actually a new fashion in Gaza.
And the knives? They were meant to cut onions and peacefully™ demonstrate against Israelis [B](READ: Stabbing innocent Israelis is NOT a crime, Palestinians are peaceful™ they can do that)[/B]
Oh and the ballistic and bulletproof vests? they are for peaceful™ games of Palestinian rugby of course! How dare these filthy Zionists intervene in their peaceful™ games?
These supplies were also meant for the Palestinian humanitarian organization Hamas, a very peaceful™ organization who spread the voice of peace™ and love in all of Palestine!
[QUOTE=RzDat;50621101]Okay you caught me
The sniper scopes, binoculars and night vision goggles were actually meant for Palestinian children to play hide and seek in the dark while the camouflage is actually a new fashion in Gaza.
And the knives? They were meant to cut onions and peacefully™ demonstrate against Israelis [B](READ: Stabbing innocent Israelis is NOT a crime, Palestinians are peaceful™ they can do that)[/B]
Oh and the ballistic and bulletproof vests? they are for peaceful™ games of Palestinian rugby of course! How dare these filthy Zionists intervene in their peaceful™ games?
These supplies were also meant for the Palestinian humanitarian organization Hamas, a very peaceful™ organization who spread the voice of peace™ and love in all of Palestine![/QUOTE]
Zionist paranoia knows no bounds.
These are the bulk of the cargo:
[QUOTE][I]Three of the flotilla ships carried only passengers and their personal belongings,[12] while three other ships carried 10,000 tons of humanitarian aid, with an estimated value of $20 million. The cargo included food, wheelchairs, books, toys, electricity generators, operating theater equipment, medicines,medical equipment, textiles, footwear, cash, mobility scooters, sofas, and building materials, such as cement,[21] which are prohibited under the Israeli blockade, although Israel offered to allow the cement to enter Gaza, if the flotilla were to dock in Ashdod.[/I][/QUOTE]
Hamas need toys to attack Zionist?
The ship from 6 countries (USA, Cambodia, Comoros, Turkey, Kiribati, Greece) are all abounds for the Palestinians welfare. You think they are all there for raiding Israel, with knives?
'Stabbing' of officers? As mentioned countless times, you robbed them of their home. So they retaliate back, which is the most natural thing to do.
But what can excuse your officers for killing Palestinian child like dogs? After killing their parents and all they had?
[video=youtube;6xlrocI6A5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlrocI6A5I[/video]
1991 Palestinian children killed by Israel since 2000. I bet you didn't do it with knives.
To conclude, you are the source of the problem, and the one perpetuating it. You're well aware of that, and still try to (unsuccessfully) deceives.
Again, all efforts that is not in your favour of your barbaric rogue state for taking over Palestine, you labelled as terrorism.
Everybody knows this, and disgusted with Israel at the point of they did not give a flying fuck anymore.
There's nobody else left that you lot can lie to, except to yourself.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50626953]Zionist paranoia knows no bounds.
These are the bulk of the cargo:
Hamas need toys to attack Zionist?
The ship from 6 countries (USA, Cambodia, Comoros, Turkey, Kiribati, Greece) are all abounds for the Palestinians welfare. You think they are all there for raiding Israel, with knives?
'Stabbing' of officers? As mentioned countless times, you robbed them of their home. So they retaliate back, which is the most natural thing to do.
But what can excuse your officers for killing Palestinian child like dogs? After killing their parents and all they had?
[video=youtube;6xlrocI6A5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlrocI6A5I[/video]
1991 Palestinian children killed by Israel since 2000. I bet you didn't do it with knives.
To conclude, you are the source of the problem, and the one perpetuating it. You're well aware of that, and still try to (unsuccessfully) deceives.
Again, all efforts that is not in your favour of your barbaric rogue state for taking over Palestine, you labelled as terrorism.
Everybody knows this, and disgusted with Israel at the point of they did not give a flying fuck anymore.
There's nobody else left that you lot can lie to, except to yourself.[/QUOTE]
You think whatever you want. Me and other people already explained our side and you chose to ignore it by blindly calling us criminals and thieves.
We specified evidence, logic and reason and you're still using the same old excuse of "THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU STOLE THEIR LAAAAAND"
You also forgot to mention that the cargo at the end was delivered to gaza. And i quote:
[quote]The aid was delivered to Gaza under United Nations supervision on 17 June.[/quote]
Why do you even ignore these details? you're giving me a source of information and claiming that Israel was the aggressor yet you leave little details like these.
Also the Palestinian kid in the video attempted to stab a few people. What would you do? give him a hug?
You want me to show sympathy? Fuck off. I will not be forced to show sympathy for the kind of people who would slaughter my entire family just to "fight oppression". If they think that this is the way to achieve sovereignty then they deserve every bullet.
[B]EDIT: [/B]WAIT A SECOND! The kid in the video isn't even dead. You may have forgot who treated the boy afterwards?
This story was trending a few years ago
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.680612[/url]
[img]http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.680614.1447337150!/image/1007778086.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_857x482/1007778086.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50626953]Zionist paranoia knows no bounds.
These are the bulk of the cargo:
Hamas need toys to attack Zionist?
The ship from 6 countries (USA, Cambodia, Comoros, Turkey, Kiribati, Greece) are all abounds for the Palestinians welfare. You think they are all there for raiding Israel, with knives?
'Stabbing' of officers? As mentioned countless times, you robbed them of their home. So they retaliate back, which is the most natural thing to do.
But what can excuse your officers for killing Palestinian child like dogs? After killing their parents and all they had?
[video=youtube;6xlrocI6A5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlrocI6A5I[/video]
1991 Palestinian children killed by Israel since 2000. I bet you didn't do it with knives.
To conclude, you are the source of the problem, and the one perpetuating it. You're well aware of that, and still try to (unsuccessfully) deceives.
Again, all efforts that is not in your favour of your barbaric rogue state for taking over Palestine, you labelled as terrorism.
Everybody knows this, and disgusted with Israel at the point of they did not give a flying fuck anymore.
There's nobody else left that you lot can lie to, except to yourself.[/QUOTE]
oh how sad look at the stabber on the ground dying
[QUOTE=RzDat;50627393]You think whatever you want. Me and other people already explained our side and you chose to ignore it by blindly calling us criminals and thieves.
We specified evidence, logic and reason and you're still using the same old excuse of "THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU STOLE THEIR LAAAAAND"
You also forgot to mention that the cargo at the end was delivered to gaza. And i quote:
Why do you even ignore these details? you're giving me a source of information and claiming that Israel was the aggressor yet you leave little details like these.
Also the Palestinian kid in the video attempted to stab a few people. What would you do? give him a hug?
You want me to show sympathy? Fuck off. I will not be forced to show sympathy for the kind of people who would slaughter my entire family just to "fight oppression". [B]If they think that this is the way to achieve sovereignty then they deserve every bullet[/B].
[B]EDIT: [/B]WAIT A SECOND! The kid in the video [B]isn't even dead[/B]. You may have forgot who treated the boy afterwards?
This story was trending a few years ago
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.680612[/url]
[img]http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.680614.1447337150!/image/1007778086.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_857x482/1007778086.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Beat them to near death, then claim it's OK if they are not dead.
Time does not change the truth behind your crime.
Finally, after minor debridement of your Zionist abcess-filled facade, the pus showed itself.
Good. I like that more than the victim play that was on earlier
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50627761]Beat them to near death, then claim it's OK if they are not dead.
Time does not change the truth behind your crime.
Finally, after minor debridement of your Zionist abcess-filled facade, the pus showed itself.
Good. I like that more than the victim play that was on earlier[/QUOTE]
Why don't YOU show your true colors? Instead of trying to act like a some human rights activist, just admit you seek the destruction of Israel and its citizens.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50627761]Beat them to near death, then claim it's OK if they are not dead.
Time does not change the truth behind your crime.
Finally, after minor debridement of your Zionist abcess-filled facade, the pus showed itself.
Good. I like that more than the victim play that was on earlier[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think Mr Poe here is trolling you guys.
[QUOTE=RzDat;50627805]Why don't YOU show your true colors? Instead of trying to act like a some human rights activist, [B]just admit you seek the destruction of Israel and its citizens[/B].[/QUOTE]
Shh tone it down. Your holocaust-induced paranoia is showing :shh:
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50628032]Shh tone it down. Your holocaust-induced paranoia is showing :shh:[/QUOTE]
Yeah i take it back, this is some low quality shitposting.
Should have known that when i'm talking to a Malaysian.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50626953]But what can excuse your officers for killing Palestinian child like dogs? After killing their parents and all they had?
[video=youtube;6xlrocI6A5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlrocI6A5I[/video]
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Other than the posting of this video (lolololol), is this your YouTube channel?
I can only guess it is seeing as how the video has 24 views.
If so, looking at the uploaded videos, you are clearly a part of the cancer of Islam. Nothing but preach for your own religion and hate for Jews...
[QUOTE=DogGunn;50628322]Other than the posting of this video (lolololol), is this your YouTube channel?
I can only guess it is seeing as how the video has 24 views.
If so, looking at the uploaded videos, you are clearly a part of the cancer of Islam. Nothing but preach for your own religion and hate for Jews...[/QUOTE]
Going for personal attack now eh? But no, it's not my channel. Not like we need the video in the first place, its an everyday occurence in Palestine for people with eyes to look.
Like I said, branding the people who disagrees with Zionist as cancer/terrorist/extremist is kind of an old move.
Even then, nothing that we can say justifies inhumane subjugation of Palestine.
Time does not heal all wound.
You're right, it is a personal attack, because you're not worth the effort.
Reading your other posts shows your insane infatuation with the Palestinians. Go for your life and post all you want about their poor poor plight and their unfair lives.
Meanwhile, the average Israeli enjoys a better life than you do in Malaysia.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;50628701]
Meanwhile, the average Israeli enjoys a better life than you do in Malaysia.[/QUOTE]
Be it better or worse, quality of life was never a criteria of truth.
But as things stand, materialism seems to be your scale and only pursuits in life. It's your life, so please proceed as necessary.
But keep in mind that there are other in this world with higher goals, and try to achieve them with morals intact.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50628723]Be it better or worse, quality of life wad never a criteria of truth. [/QUOTE]
Maybe, maybe not - but it certainly provides some means to justification and legitimacy (lol, in another thread you said that Israel shouldn't even be a part of the UN).
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;50628723]But as things stand, materialism seems to be your scale and only pursuits in life. It's your life, so please proceed as necessary.
But keep in mind that there are other in this world with higher goals.[/QUOTE]
Like peace? I don't see that on the agenda for any of the Palestinians in power (Hamas or Fatah).
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