• "The constitution has failed" - Ron Paul delivers farewell speech to Congress, freedom
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[QUOTE=Bobie;38463953]but if the free market is a tool for improvement then why has somalia been going steadily downhill?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure no one's saying a free market is the panacea for every shitty situation a population's in, just a precedent for good economy and politics according to their ideals how are you going to sell anything in somalia anyway
Truly, we are living in the end times.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;38463559]are you a Sun reader perchance[/QUOTE] look at the title of this board Sensationalist Headlines this is practically the sun
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;38464006]I'm pretty sure no one's saying a free market is the panacea for every shitty situation a population's in, just a precedent for good economy and politics according to their ideals how are you going to sell anything in somalia anyway[/QUOTE] how can you believe libertarianism is a good idea in one place and not a good idea in another if its good then it should be applicable everywhere.
[QUOTE=Bobie;38464046]how can you believe libertarianism is a good idea in one place and not a good idea in another if its good then it should be applicable everywhere.[/QUOTE] 1. you can believe that libertarianism needs a certain established society and perhaps system to actually work, just like many believe communism needs people who aren't selfish to work 2. I never even said that, I'm saying you can believe in libertarianism without believing a free market solves literally every problem
[QUOTE=Bobie;38462157]lol fuck off [B]Obama[/B] you're terrible even by [B]liberal [/B]standards[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Bobie;38462501]i love paying for [B]unemployment insurance[/B] [B]Obama [/B]2012[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38462413]Minus being [B]Liberal [/B](which is bad enough)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38462318][B]Obama [/B]is honestly a joke. I have a picture of him as my desktop background so I can laugh when I turn the computer on.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jomali;38462085]Wait, [B]Obama [/B]is leaving politics at the end of the year? This year just keeps getting better.[/QUOTE] Change a few names around and this sure looks like the chatroom of a Fox article. I didn't know I was on r/politics, sure is amateur hour here.
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464089]Change a few names around and this sure looks like the chatroom of a Fox article. I didn't know I was on r/politics, sure is amateur hour here.[/QUOTE] Ron Paul is legitimately terrible though. As is the Libertarian party.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38463350]My sister thinks Ron Paul is smart [/QUOTE] You're honestly going to contest the intelligence of Paul? Even with his supposed flaws, I'd say it's a safe bet that he'd outperform the majority of congress on an IQ test. And it's probably an even safer bet to say he's more intelligent than you. [editline]15th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464125][B]Obama [/B]is legitimately terrible though. As is the [B]Liberal [/B]party.[/QUOTE] You aren't saying anything
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464135]And it's probably an even safer bet to say he's more intelligent than you.[/QUOTE] He is a creationist. Creationism =/= intelligence.
I don't think Ron Paul is the messiah, but look at how you all are acting. Is this how this subforum normally is?
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464160]I don't think Ron Paul is the messiah, but look at how you all are acting. Is this how this subforum normally is?[/QUOTE] We are center left and tend to hate people who oppose abortion/gay rights/etc (Ron Paul opposes both).
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464153]He is a creationist. Creationism =/= intelligence.[/QUOTE] Which is retarded, I'll agree with you. You underestimate the power religion can have on people, it's faith based. He's not accepting creationism on logic so to discredit every unrelated thing he says is retarded. [editline]15th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464186]We are [B]center left[/B] and tend to hate people who oppose abortion/gay rights/etc (Ron Paul opposes both).[/QUOTE] Maybe by international standards. The center left in the United States usually at least has some understanding of the importance of at least some level of a free market.
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464204]Which is retarded, I'll agree with you. You underestimate the power religion can have on people, it's faith based. He's not accepting creationism on logic so to discredit everything unrelated thing he says is retarded.[/QUOTE] He also opposes gay rights and abortion. And he takes the batshit insane deluded crazy old Russian bitch we call Ayn Rand's word as gospel. That's reason enough. [editline]15th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=RinVII;38464204]Maybe by international standards. The center left in the United States usually at least has some understanding of the importance of at least some level of a free market.[/QUOTE] The free market exists in the rest of the world too. Even in places like Europe and China.
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464089]Change a few names around and this sure looks like the chatroom of a Fox article. I didn't know I was on r/politics, sure is amateur hour here.[/QUOTE] ok name us some reasons why ron paul is a good candidate and i'll happily debate with you. [QUOTE=DrTaxi;38464060]1. you can believe that libertarianism needs a certain established society and perhaps system to actually work, just like many believe communism needs people who aren't selfish to work 2. I never even said that, I'm saying you can believe in libertarianism without believing a free market solves literally every problem[/QUOTE] libertarianism is a utopian system. if it doesn't solve every problem then it doesn't work, flat out
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464153]He is a creationist. Creationism =/= intelligence.[/QUOTE] Hhahahahahahahahahaha Pseudo intellectualism at its finest
[QUOTE=MBB;38464255]Hhahahahahahahahahaha Pseudo intellectualism at its finest[/QUOTE] denying fact is the first step to denying other facts too you know empiricism isn't a "take it or leave it" situation. it's fact
[QUOTE=Bobie;38464265]denying fact is the first step to denying other facts too you know[/QUOTE] Yes, it SURE IS a "fact" that creationism is false!! Obama must be a fucking idiot in denial then! 80% of the US are incapable of ever being intelligent!
[QUOTE=MBB;38464255]Hhahahahahahahahahaha Pseudo intellectualism at its finest[/QUOTE] Creationism is a pseudoscience. Even a fucking 8 year old could call bullshit on it.
[QUOTE=MBB;38464277]Yes, it SURE IS a "fact" that creationism is false!! Obama must be a fucking idiot in denial then! 80% of the US are incapable of ever being intelligent![/QUOTE] yeah probably. depends what context you're referring it to
[QUOTE=MBB;38464277]Yes, it SURE IS a "fact" that creationism is false!! Obama must be a fucking idiot in denial then! 80% of the US are incapable of ever being intelligent![/QUOTE] It is a fact that creationism is false.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464232]He also opposes [B]gay rights [/B][/QUOTE] [quote=Wiki]When asked if he was supportive of gay marriage, Paul responded, "I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want." [/quote] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464232]And he takes the batshit insane deluded crazy old Russian bitch we call Ayn Rand's word as gospel.[/quote] Funny that you'd claim that considering Ayn Rand vehemently attacked any politician opposing abortion while she was alive. Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are very different people. Even with her flaws, Rand will always be the more significant intellectual.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464294]Creationism is a pseudoscience. Even a fucking 8 year old could call bullshit on it.[/QUOTE] Anti-theists make me laugh my ass off. Go back to r/atheism and jerking off to Richard Dawkins You're not smarter or more aware than 80% of the USA just because you don't have a religious affiliation and enjoy acting like everyone is inferior because of it
[QUOTE=MBB;38464324]Anti-theists make me laugh my ass off. Go back to r/atheism and jerking off to Richard Dawkins You're not smarter or more aware than 80% of the USA just because you don't have a religious affiliation and enjoy acting like everyone is inferior because of it[/QUOTE] What in the hell does that have to do with Antitheism?
So much for making anime real... Goodnight, Sweet Prince, you'll always be in our hearts.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464301]It is a fact that creationism is false.[/QUOTE] Show me an empirical study where creationism is somehow specifically proven false
[QUOTE=Bobie;38464252] libertarianism is a utopian system. if it doesn't solve every problem then it doesn't work, flat out[/QUOTE] Which system solves every problem?
[QUOTE=MBB;38464344]Show me an empirical study where creationism is somehow specifically proven false[/QUOTE] [url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=age+of+the+universe[/url]
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464204]Maybe by international standards. The center left in the United States usually at least has some understanding of the importance of at least some level of a free market.[/QUOTE] Center left by international standards is COMMUNIST SCUM by American ones. We have public healthcare far surpassing Obamacare in most of Western Europe, and our center right parties wouldn't even think about abolishing it. [QUOTE=Sobotnik;38464232]He also opposes gay rights and abortion. And he takes the batshit insane deluded crazy old Russian bitch we call Ayn Rand's word as gospel. That's reason enough.[/QUOTE] Just because the person saying something also says dumb things, doesn't mean nothing he says can possibly be right/smart. [QUOTE=MBB;38464277]Yes, it SURE IS a "fact" that creationism is false!! Obama must be a fucking idiot in denial then! 80% of the US are incapable of ever being intelligent![/QUOTE] Creationism is completely illogical.
[QUOTE=MBB;38464344]Show me an empirical study where creationism is somehow specifically proven false[/QUOTE] Careful here, evolution is a pretty well constructed theory.. creationism is not. I understand your point about creationists still having the potential to be intelligent but creationism as defined by the bible is pretty asinine. If you're claiming that some entity caused the events that led to the propagation of life, that's far different than following the Adam and Eve story.
[QUOTE=RinVII;38464318]Funny that you'd claim that considering Ayn Rand vehemently attacked any politician opposing abortion while she was alive. Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are very different people. Even with her flaws, Rand will always be the more significant intellectual.[/QUOTE] Rand was never an intellectual, she was a terrible writer with a terrible philosophy.
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