• Marine who urinated on dead Taliban sentenced to 30 days in jail
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[QUOTE=rilez;38918697]How do you gauge what is and isn't a "fair" punishment for something like this? He's been kicked out of the military, so now he has no salary. He has to serve time, which is now on his record. This event is also on his record. Employers take criminal convictions pretty seriously. Imagine someone with a military court martial trying to find a job. His punishment extends far beyond his actual jail sentence.[/QUOTE] the sentence is almost a formality at this point. though is he staying in military jail? i've heard those aren't fun at all
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918680]Right The Allies weren't the good guys in WW2[/QUOTE] They were definitely better than the Axis, but that's really not saying a lot at all
[QUOTE=Ownederd;38918711]well, they did nuke about 200k people the ussr committed terrible crimes against its people; shall we mention what they did to poland, too? nazi germany is responsible for the holocaust stop[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you even on about at this point? At what point was Germany ever part of the allies? Yes, the USSR commits crimes against it's people. That's not relevant to the argument that the allies - The US and Britain, and to a far lesser extend, the USSR - were still the good guys. The nuking of Japan was a tragedy, but most of the people who died in the attack would have died anyways, along with lots of allied soldiers who didn't need to, because Japan's bumfuck crazy government would have kept sending them out to die until the last possible moment. Look up "Conscription." Stop telling me to stop until you can back up your posts with points that have more basis than a tower made of twigs.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918372]I can't hit reply I'll go to jail for domestic violence[/QUOTE] You don't think that people in the military should be punished the same for a violation of their predetermined rules, as a civillian violating [I]their[/I] predetermined rules? [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Strongbad;38918748]What the fuck are you even on about at this point? At what point was Germany ever part of the allies? Yes, the USSR commits crimes against it's people. That's not relevant to the argument that the allies - The US and Britain, and to a far lesser extend, the USSR - were still the good guys. The nuking of Japan was a tragedy, but most of the people who died in the attack would have died anyways, along with lots of allied soldiers who didn't need to, because Japan's bumfuck crazy government would have kept sending them out to die until the last possible moment. Look up "Conscription." Stop telling me to stop until you can back up your posts with points that have more basis than a tower made of twigs.[/QUOTE] There are no 'good guys' in WWII. There were atrocities committed on the allies side that were just as horrific as the ones on the axis. Had the axis won, we wouldn't have this biased opinion.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918467]Here's a better question. Why are you making a big deal of the fact that you're in the military on a forum full of people who, despite having no proof besides what their favored biased news source tells them, are completely convinced the US Military is evil and eats babies and that the Taliban and all the other rebels are like the Ewoks and their cohorts from Starwars? It's just a recipe for trouble.[/QUOTE] youre putting words into my mouth while being completely obnoxious [b]stop[/b]
[QUOTE=TheHydra;38918736]the sentence is almost a formality at this point. though is he staying in military jail? i've heard those aren't fun at all[/QUOTE] Doesn't say in the article, but I imagine military jail would be much worse than civ jail.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918748]What the fuck are you even on about at this point? At what point was Germany ever part of the allies? Yes, the USSR commits crimes against it's people. That's not relevant to the argument that the allies - The US and Britain, and to a far lesser extend, the USSR - were still the good guys. The nuking of Japan was a tragedy, but most of the people who died in the attack would have died anyways, along with lots of allied soldiers who didn't need to, because Japan's bumfuck crazy government would have kept sending them out to die until the last possible moment. Look up "Conscription." Stop telling me to stop until you can back up your posts with points that have more basis than a tower made of twigs.[/QUOTE] v [QUOTE=thisispain;38918788]youre putting words into my mouth while being completely obnoxious [B]stop[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918748]What the fuck are you even on about at this point? At what point was Germany ever part of the allies? Yes, the USSR commits crimes against it's people. That's not relevant to the argument that the allies - The US and Britain, and to a far lesser extend, the USSR - were still the good guys.[/QUOTE] No, they weren't. And Britain was just about fucking useless by the time the USSR got involved, so how does that make them more of the 'good guys' than the USSR if you're gauging the 'good' of a faction to be how devastating it was to the Germans.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918748]What the fuck are you even on about at this point? At what point was Germany ever part of the allies? Yes, the USSR commits crimes against it's people. That's not relevant to the argument that the allies - The US and Britain, and to a far lesser extend, the USSR - were still the good guys. The nuking of Japan was a tragedy, but most of the people who died in the attack would have died anyways, along with lots of allied soldiers who didn't need to, because Japan's bumfuck crazy government would have kept sending them out to die until the last possible moment. Look up "Conscription." Stop telling me to stop until you can back up your posts with points that have more basis than a tower made of twigs.[/QUOTE] I don't know what they taught you in history class but it was apparently wrong. The USSR were the biggest contributors to the Allied cause.
You know Britain had their concentration camps in South Africa during the Anglo-Boer war, right? It wasn't all fucking flowers and chocolate over there. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Strongbad;38918467]Here's a better question. Why are you making a big deal of the fact that you're in the military on a forum full of people who, despite having no proof besides what their favored biased news source tells them, are completely convinced the US Military is evil and eats babies and that the Taliban and all the other rebels are like the Ewoks and their cohorts from Starwars? It's just a recipe for trouble.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ my eyes.
Besides that, Britain was crippled too quickly to be of any use other than in North Africa anyway.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;38918680]Right The Allies weren't the good guys in WW2[/QUOTE] You're right, they weren't. The allies intentionally killed civillians with indiscriminate bombing. For fucks sake, Arthur Harris, the commander-in-chief of the RAF, openly admitted that one of the goals of the bombing campaign against Germany was to kill and terrorize citizens. Once you intentionally start killing unarmed men women and children, you lose your right to call yourself the "good guys".
Anyone remember [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II"]Dresden[/URL]? I think this country needs less US History classes and more World History classes.
[QUOTE=Toasters;38918863]You're right, they weren't. The allies intentionally killed civillians with indiscriminate bombing. For fucks sake, Arthur Harris, the commander-in-chief of the RAF, openly admitted that one of the goals of the bombing campaign against Germany was to kill and terrorize citizens. Once you intentionally start killing unarmed men women and children, you lose your right to call yourself the "good guys".[/QUOTE] Also, Japanese internment camps.
Should be a dishonorable discharge, that shit is disgraceful and a detriment to the soldiers from all nations trying to actually make a difference in the country.
[QUOTE=rilez;38918697]He's been kicked out of the military, so now he has no salary.[/QUOTE] No he's still in the army. He's only facing the possibility of being demoted in rank.
The weirdest shit was said in Dresden. Eerie; [quote] To my left I suddenly see a woman. I can see her to this day and shall never forget it. She carries a bundle in her arms. It is a baby. She runs, she falls, and the child flies in an arc into the fire. Suddenly, I saw people again, right in front of me. They scream and gesticulate with their hands, and then — to my utter horror and amazement — I see how one after the other they simply seem to let themselves drop to the ground. (Today I know that these unfortunate people were the victims of lack of oxygen). They fainted and then burnt to cinders. Insane fear grips me and from then on I repeat one simple sentence to myself continuously: "I don't want to burn to death". I do not know how many people I fell over. I know only one thing: that I must not burn. — Margaret Freyer, survivor. [/quote]
I dunno, I think 30 days seems about right.
they are enemies at war its not a big deal
[QUOTE=Radical Larry;38919109]they are enemies at war its not a big deal[/QUOTE] Yes it is a big deal. Desecrating corpses is never okay.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;38919017]No he's still in the army. He's only facing the possibility of being demoted in rank.[/QUOTE] Marine Corps, and he is most definitely getting demoted. [editline]21st December 2012[/editline] I have seen the military demote for a whole lot less than what this Marine did.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38919163]Marine Corps, and he is most definitely getting demoted.[/QUOTE] Whether he gets demoted or kicked out of the military makes a huge difference, I was responding to a post that said he was getting kicked out entirely with no salary. (And yeah Marine Corps, my bad, I tend to incorrectly use 'army' and 'military' interchangeably.)
[QUOTE=Starpluck;38919201]Whether he gets demoted or kicked out of the military makes a huge difference. (My bad, I tend to incorrectly use 'army' and 'military' interchangeably.)[/QUOTE] He will most likely be denied reenlistment, and given a general discharge. Usually if you can't reenlist you get an honorable, but in this case I am thinking general, due to the blemish on his record.
[QUOTE=Radical Larry;38919109]they are enemies at war its not a big deal[/QUOTE] There's rules of war. Being an enemy combatant does not give you free reign to do as you please.
Lets see how much disgusting human beings can get
he should be sentenced to the cesspit for a week.
[QUOTE=AK'z;38919434]he should be sentenced to the cesspit for a week.[/QUOTE] You mean music section?
They should have given him community service. Putting him in jail for a month is just a waste of money.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;38914634]30 days is not brutal or unfair (maybe unfair in the regard that its light).[/QUOTE] he pissed on the dead body of a guy who died for the purpose of furthering the agenda of a fictional character that seeks to enslave women and execute all who don't worship him. I'm not american, and honestly anybody who joins the military and thinks they're ''defending'' their country is an idiot, but NOT pissing on that guy would have been immoral.
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