Marine who urinated on dead Taliban sentenced to 30 days in jail
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If the tables were turned, and it was Taliban pissing on the bodies of US soldiers, I wonder what the Military fundies would say.
Cry me a River, I don't care if you think it's ignorant. He went over there to fight these guys who have absolutely NO value to human life because of bullshit reasons, and now his life is pretty much ruined because he disrespected the body of an animal. If the Taliban were an actual military of a country who signed the geneva convention, I wouldn't be saying this, but they aren't.
[quote]Common Article 2 of the Geneva Conventions states that a signatory nation of the convention is only bound by the articles thereof if their opposing power in a conflict is either a) a signatory power of the convention or b) agrees to abide by the articles thereof despite not being a signatory power of the convention.[/quote]
So I don't Give a Fuck. Go pick up a Rifle and stand a post if you want to disagree
I don't see how us not being in the military means desecrating bodies is okay.
Talon, can you not make an insane jingoistic post for like once in your life?
this dude did nothing wrong, pissing on a dead guy who tried to kill me seems like something I would do
those guys go through a lot of shit and this might be a bit of comic relief considering he could die any given moment
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916379]this dude did nothing wrong, pissing on a dead guy who tried to kill me seems like something I would do
those guys go through a lot of shit and this might be a bit of comic relief considering he could die any given moment[/QUOTE]
They did nothing wrong except desecrate a corpse and break international law and do an all around shitty immoral thing that makes you look like an even bigger animal and celebrate it.
oh but they're stressed and the ENEMY COMBATANT they're AT WAR WITH did things you typically do when you declare war on someone and invade their home, therefore it's completely and totally justified.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38916413]They did nothing wrong except desecrate a corpse and break international law and do an all around shitty immoral thing that makes you look like an even bigger animal and celebrate it.
oh but they're stressed and the ENEMY COMBATANT they're AT WAR WITH did things you typically do when you declare war on someone and invade their home, therefore it's completely and totally justified.[/QUOTE]
peeing on someone makes you a bigger animal than some religiously fueled trained killer who was raised to hate america and terrorize innocents?
If I killed a dude trying to kill me I would pee on him, the fuck is he gonna do?
30 days is a fart in the wind, should have been a couple of years at least.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916445]peeing on someone makes you a bigger animal than some religiously fueled trained killer who was raised to hate america and terrorize innocents?
If I killed a dude trying to kill me I would pee on him, the fuck is he gonna do?[/QUOTE]
It's not one or the other dude. Both sides can be in the wrong and I know this is absolutely shocking to know that US soldiers have the capacity to be in the wrong.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916445]peeing on someone makes you a bigger animal than some religiously fueled trained killer who was raised to hate america and terrorize innocents?
If I killed a dude trying to kill me I would pee on him, the fuck is he gonna do?[/QUOTE]
Why do you pee on him though?
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38916332]Cry me a River, I don't care if you think it's ignorant. He went over there to fight these guys who have absolutely NO value to human life because of bullshit reasons, and now his life is pretty much ruined because he disrespected the body of an animal. If the Taliban were an actual military of a country who signed the geneva convention, I wouldn't be saying this, but they aren't.
So I don't Give a Fuck. Go pick up a Rifle and stand a post if you want to disagree[/QUOTE]
They're human.
[editline]21st December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916445]
If I killed a dude trying to kill me I would pee on him, the fuck is he gonna do?[/QUOTE]
While you're at it, you should have sex with the body, too, I mean, [I]what's he gonna do?[/I]
No fucking sense of morality or ethics, either of you.
[QUOTE=Desuh;38916620]Why do you pee on him though?[/QUOTE]
It's more disrespectful and longer than spitting on a corpse
and virtually the same so why is pee looked down upon
and what if the taliban dudes dying words were "I have a gay fetish for golden showers, please pee on me it would complete my life" and the soldier was just doing it to fulfill his wish
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916662]It's more disrespectful and longer than spitting on a corpse
and virtually the same so why is pee looked down upon
and what if the taliban dudes dying words were "I have a gay fetish for golden showers, please pee on me it would complete my life" and the soldier was just doing it to fulfill his wish[/QUOTE]
So what you're saying is, you are an animal in it for this 'sexual experience' of pissing on a dead corpse, that's still warm from trying to fight back?
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916662]It's more disrespectful and longer than spitting on a corpse
and virtually the same so why is pee looked down upon
and what if the taliban dudes dying words were "I have a gay fetish for golden showers, please pee on me it would complete my life" and the soldier was just doing it to fulfill his wish[/QUOTE]
Stop posting.
we allow westboro to do more obscene stuff that also messes with living people, why are we jailing people over pissing at a corpse?
as with all cases of soldiers being fucked in the head, i feel the blame lies more with the military institution and it targeting uneducated sociopaths, fostering such 'us or them' mentalities and of course, fighting unjust & illegal wars
[QUOTE=Mike42012;38916683]So what you're saying is, you are an animal in it for this 'sexual experience' of pissing on a dead corpse, that's still warm from trying to fight back?[/QUOTE]
what I'm saying is you guys are overreacting and he shouldn't be punished in the first place, shit probably happens every day but this is one of the few times some pussy in the squad snitched someone out for it
sure it wasn't right to pee on some dude, its a bit of a dick move but they should honestly not care [b]THEY HAVE BIGGER SHIT TO DEAL WITH OVER THERE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY[/b]
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916719]what I'm saying is you guys are overreacting and he shouldn't be punished in the first place, shit probably happens every day but this is one of the few times some pussy in the squad snitched someone out for it
sure it wasn't right to pee on some dude, its a bit of a dick move but they should honestly not care [b]THEY HAVE BIGGER SHIT TO DEAL WITH OVER THERE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY[/b][/QUOTE]
Might as well just launch some sarin bombs over there, since morals don't matter to you, your highness.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916719]what I'm saying is you guys are overreacting and he shouldn't be punished in the first place, shit probably happens every day but this is one of the few times some pussy in the squad snitched someone out for it
sure it wasn't right to pee on some dude, its a bit of a dick move but they should honestly not care [B]THEY HAVE BIGGER SHIT TO DEAL WITH OVER THERE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PRIORITY[/B][/QUOTE]
it's about law, ethics & morality and all that shit. it's what SUPPOSED to separate us modern western nations from shitty backwards cunts like the taliban. if we're not gonna abide by that kinda shit why are we pretending we're any better?
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38916332]Cry me a River, I don't care if you think it's ignorant. He went over there to fight these guys who have absolutely NO value to human life because of bullshit reasons, and now his life is pretty much ruined because he disrespected the body of an animal. If the Taliban were an actual military of a country who signed the geneva convention, I wouldn't be saying this, but they aren't.
So I don't Give a Fuck. Go pick up a Rifle and stand a post if you want to disagree[/QUOTE]
we don't want to listen to your inept and disrespectful xenophobia
[QUOTE=SKEEA;38915343]It essentially is. ANY length of prison time is a huge stigma in the US, especially for military personnel. That stuff will follow him forever, and will most likely never be hired again.[/QUOTE]
Ummm? actually, what he did could help him get a job in some situations.
The large amount of "URRR DEM TERROISTS NEED TO BE MASSACRED" mentality in some parts of the country would play in his favor. Some employers would call this man a hero.
30 days is to little though. I think 3-6 months would be nice, but it is military prison.
But in a perfect world I think mental help would be more adequate. But we can't have that world.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916719]what I'm saying is you guys are overreacting and he shouldn't be punished in the first place, shit probably happens every day [B]but this is one of the few times some pussy in the squad snitched someone out for it[/B][/QUOTE]
Uh no, the solider thought he was a cool hardcore badass and decided to videotape himself desecrating corpses. A sad mentality held by a lot of marines in the US military.
You know I'd like to just remind everyone of the "Golden Rule" and how you shouldn't do things you wouldn't want to be done to you...
but then in regards to the subject perhaps that is not the best term to use for it right now.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;38916710]we allow westboro to do more obscene stuff that also messes with living people, why are we jailing people over pissing at a corpse?[/QUOTE]
WBC kills and urinates on people?
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38916901]WBC kills and urinates on people?[/QUOTE]
uhm, the charge is that he peed on a combatant's corpse
i dont know about you, but its weird we criminalize urinating on inanimate thing that cant even feel but we say its okay to mentally torture people in funerals by saying their dead kids were righteously killed and etc. why isn't peeing on corpses an expression of speech? hes showing how much he detests them?
One is desecrating corpses the other is Freedom of assembly
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;38916945]One is desecrating corpses the other is Freedom of assembly[/QUOTE]
why is desecration criminal? just because it 'hurts' your feelings and its 'obscene' to you, doesnt mean it should be illegal!
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;38916928]why isn't peeing on corpses an expression of speech? hes showing how much he detests them?[/QUOTE]
The same reason why my fist in your face isn't an "expression of speech" of how much I detest you.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;38916962]why is desecration criminal? just because it 'hurts' your feelings and its 'obscene' to you, doesnt mean it should be illegal![/QUOTE]
You've changed my mind. Going to dig up your dead relatives and eat them
[QUOTE=Starpluck;38916966]The same reason why my fist in your fist in your face isn't an "expression of speech" of how much I detest you.[/QUOTE]
uh, its a corpse, it cant feel pain and go 'ouch stop thats assault', but i guess we should treat corpses with utmost respect while we allow westboro to heinously grief already fragile minded parents cause its freedom of speech???
[QUOTE=Lemonator;38916719]what I'm saying is you guys are overreacting and he shouldn't be punished in the first place, shit probably happens every day but this is one of the few times some pussy in the squad snitched someone out for it[/QUOTE]
ugh I hate posts like these
they're basically saying that you should disregard cases like these [I]simply because of how commonplace they are;[/I] if it's an isolated incident then it's bad, but if it's a systemic problem then suddenly it's excusable? wtf?
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