• First FemThor, now Captain African-America: Marvel's to repalce Steve Rogers with new, black Captain
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[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;45424508]Now let's give Hulk down's syndrome or put the Flash in a wheelchair.[/QUOTE] You joke, but they did make Banner pretty much retarded. Like, brain-scrambled retarded. Can't remember how (or if) they fixed it though.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45424553]yeah, mentally ill crime fighters, great idea[/QUOTE] Um, why not? I'd love to see a superhero that's suffering from PTSD or depression or anxiety. They'd have far more opportunities for interesting plots than brave, emotionally invulnerable muscle men whose only weakness is a green rock [editline]18th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45424708]more like piderman and baman [editline]17th July 2014[/editline] and yes those are spelled right for what i'm specifically mentioning[/QUOTE] sounds like what you're specifically mentioning right now is that you think that the mentally disabled don't deserve representation as superheroes in the comic book world and that you think making light of their illness-induced speech impediments is funny which kind of makes you a dick
[QUOTE=Maloof?;45425006]Um, why not? I'd love to see a superhero that's suffering from PTSD or depression or anxiety. They'd have far more opportunities for interesting plots than brave, emotionally invulnerable muscle men whose only weakness is a green rock[/QUOTE] that's not exactly what I had in mind for mental illness, but those could potentially be interesting concepts, I don't know how well a PTSD sufferer could fight crime, but it'd be an interesting concept but, mental illness in terms of depression, or obsessions are really common and many heros have many vulnerabilities beyond a little green rock. supermans weakness is lois lane or humanity itself more than kryptonite or a red sun or what have you. he's literally invulnerable at this point. [editline]17th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Maloof?;45425006] sounds like what you're specifically mentioning right now is that you think that the mentally disabled don't deserve representation as superheroes in the comic book world and that you think making light of their illness-induced speech impediments is funny which kind of makes you a dick[/QUOTE] nope. I'm all for more being written about them and sure, lets put them in those roles. I don't know how well that'll work and I think it's a little weird to shoehorn in serious things like that but go for it. But sure, go for calling me a dick and assuming a bunch of shit about me.
[QUOTE=zeldar;45417247]Someone in the MCU thread came up with a plausible explanation for many of these recent changes: *quote goes here*[/QUOTE] reading it as 'dr. who casting' for superheroes makes a lot more sense, actually. thanks for quoting that post.
besides, people who hates these changes don't have to worry, if we know marvel, this is just a way to sell bunch of comics straight and revert back to their good ol' stale boring bread & butter once they sold enough issues
i think donald glover put it the best in this interview. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgko-xReFSs[/media] at around 2 minutes in he responds to some guy who said that spiderman can't be black because "there are no black kids like peter parker." check out what he says because he's saying the truthiest shit ever. like, look at some of the backstories behind superheroes. getting bitten by a radioactive spider, crazy military experiment, being a rich dude, being a space alien, getting exposed to some weird toxic shit, being a morally just person who wants to fight crime. i think the biggest question i've got is [I]why can't[/I] peter parker or captain america be black, or thor be a woman? are white dudes more likely to be bitten by a fucking spider, or be a weak dude in the army that signs up for some science experiment or something? is a man more likely to be chosen by some mystical god hammer? the only responses i've ever seen to these things is bullshit like "it's always been like this!!! don't change it!"
nobody bitched when they made nick fury black
It's 2014, for Christ's sake. Can we stop gossiping about political correctness and affirmative action every time a black guy gets a job? [editline]18th July 2014[/editline] The kick in the teeth is that they aren't even turning Captain America black, they're just having him retire and pass on his name and costume (which happens all the damn time in comic books: Robin, Batman, Blue Beetle, the Flash, etc etc). Why is it controversial for the new Cap to be black?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45426212]nobody bitched when they made nick fury black[/QUOTE] Depends. Ultimate Universe? No, they were pretty clear about the whole Samuel L Jackson thing from the start. Recent long lost black son of 616 Nick Fury that takes his place? That shit was stupid and was only instated to capitalize even further on the popularity of MCU Nick Fury, desperately trying to raise book sales.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;45426172] i think the biggest question i've got is [I]why can't[/I] peter parker or captain america be black, or thor be a woman?[/QUOTE] Weird thing is, history of a god's appearance always changes. Thor could be a woman, a frog, a lion, and it'd still be canon because they're gods. They can do whatever they want.
It's been said before and it needs to be said again: the reason for these changes is because swapping a well-known character with a substitute is an easier way to get a new idea out there to the public. A black superhero with an ongoing has happened before, but it's not a mainstay of the comics world like, you know, Captain America. Oh, and before you people go on and on about Thor, the character of Thor, the blonde dude, is not turning into a woman. A woman will pick up the mantle of Thor as he will become unworthy. Also Iron Man is not being replaced. It'll still be Tony Stark.
I feel like with character changes like this they should just execute them in the comics, rather than announcing them early. If it feels natural as it appears in the comics it would be perfectly fine, but the way they're announcing them and making a big thing about it before the actual character changes have actually occurred just makes it feel too much like a planned publicity stunt/pandering to me
[QUOTE=SnakeSolid;45435184]I feel like with character changes like this they should just execute them in the comics, rather than announcing them early. If it feels natural as it appears in the comics it would be perfectly fine, but the way they're announcing them and making a big thing about it before the actual character changes have actually occurred just makes it feel too much like a planned publicity stunt/pandering to me[/QUOTE] They announce when they're going to kill characters in comics. Nothing is a surprise anymore.
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