• Study: Marijuana Doesn't Affect Driving Performance
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If you're impaired with anything - alcohol, pot, annoying passengers, cell phone, the radio, anger - you shouldn't be driving. Plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Emperorconor;22322680]It's still not giving you health benefits though.[/QUOTE] Neither is alcohol or nicotine [editline]05:08PM[/editline] Whereas I consume weed very occasionally, I myself still wouldn't consider driving whilst under the influence of anything. Even caffeine I find can have a pretty negative effect on driving and make you anxious.
Marijuana is fairly harmless compared to everything else in existence.
Lots of the 'Marijuana related accidents' are just crashes where the person has THC in their blood stream. This means that all 'Marijuana related accidents' are if someone smoked week within the past month.
Bottom line: There's going to be some level of impairment when it comes to driving while high; Marijuana is still a drug, you're not sober after you smoke it. The level of impairment, however, is considerably lower than it would be under the effects of alcohol. As a user of Marijuana for many years now, I've done a LOT of driving while high. In my experiences, unless you're smoking ridiculous amounts of it, the impairment is slight, and driving shouldn't be a problem. I have never come close to an accident while impaired, all it takes is paying attention to what you're doing; you can giggle at nothing and stare off into space AFTER you reach your destination.
[QUOTE=Broni;22323112] if I want to drive 10 under I'm fully within my right to..It's just irritating and I flash people when they drive 10 under.[/QUOTE] You will actually get a ticket for going TOO SLOW. Impeding normal flow of traffic. Doesn't really have anything to do with the main post, but no, you really aren't within your right to drive as slow as you want. [editline]05:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JustExtreme;22324355]Neither is alcohol or nicotine [/QUOTE] They have actually done some studies to show that small amounts of alcohol can actually boost an IQ.
I nearly got smashed by a high driver. Maybe they are just bad drivers all around regardless of the weed usage.
[quote]Test subjects performed the tests sober, and then again 30 minutes after smoking a joint containing wither [b]2.9 percent THC[/b] or a placebo joint with no THC.[/quote] only 2.9?
Even if it isn't a huge impairment, people really shouldn't be driving ever with any kind of drug. I think the privilege to drive has become too considered as a right. Not even talking about high people at this point, I mean the people who have gotten three DUI's but still have a license or the people who have had it revoked twice, but got it back. I don't think people should be able to get one a third time. /harshness.
[QUOTE=Broni;22322880]I don't think you get it a marijuana related accident, can be listed as one simply for them being in posession, or have it found in the car, or even if the officer thinks they have been smoking when it was hours ago.[/QUOTE] Or even if they have a 0.01% THC concentration in the bloodstream, which can be days or weeks after smoking it because it clings to fat.
In honesty, my friends use to smoke a lot of pot, and my god would they crash their bikes into every other street sign. I believe people should uphold the New York's street law stating, "Both your motherfucking hands better stay on that driving wheel."
[QUOTE=Squad;22325394]They have actually done some studies to show that small amounts of alcohol can actually boost an IQ.[/QUOTE] Whether it does or not, it is still more dangerous than marijuana.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;22326066]Whether it does or not, it is still more dangerous than marijuana.[/QUOTE] See this is the problem with some people. They think that since alcohol has its bad that every thing about it is horrible. 1 drop is as bad as a gallon. Which clearly isn't true. The same thing with this study, people think "Oh weed doesn't impair my driving ability." This means that a CERTAIN AMOUNT of marijuana may not affect your driving ability. This doesn't mean that you can smoke a trash bag full of pot and expect to be a stunt driver. Just because something is bad or good in certain situations doesn't make that true for all situations. 1 sip won't impair you just as much as 1 puff won't impair you.
[QUOTE=Kyklis;22325334]Bottom line: There's going to be some level of impairment when it comes to driving while high; Marijuana is still a drug, you're not sober after you smoke it. The level of impairment, however, is considerably lower than it would be under the effects of alcohol. As a user of Marijuana for many years now, I've done a LOT of driving while high. In my experiences, unless you're smoking ridiculous amounts of it, the impairment is slight, and driving shouldn't be a problem. I have never come close to an accident while impaired, all it takes is paying attention to what you're doing; you can giggle at nothing and stare off into space AFTER you reach your destination.[/QUOTE] Your love is my drug. Does that mean I have to quit you so I can drive, baby?
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly
Smoke your damn weed and drive, just don't crash into [B]me[/B].
Its different for every single person but from my own experience it sure as hell does.. for example i was driving home from a party a few year ago at about 4am, had smoked a ton and i was blazed off my ass, was cruising down the freeway and i though i was hauling ass so i check my speed.....45mph and the limit where i live is 65mph plus there is no other horror than driving down the freeway torched and look in the rearview to see strobing lights....only to realize it was a wahmbulance as they fly past you after you've pissed your pants and gobbled the smoldering blunt in the ashtray LoL. so yea...driving performace. Affected.
[QUOTE=Squad;22326144]See this is the problem with some people. They think that since alcohol has its bad that every thing about it is horrible. 1 drop is as bad as a gallon. Which clearly isn't true. The same thing with this study, people think "Oh weed doesn't impair my driving ability." This means that a CERTAIN AMOUNT of marijuana may not affect your driving ability. This doesn't mean that you can smoke a trash bag full of pot and expect to be a stunt driver. Just because something is bad or good in certain situations doesn't make that true for all situations. 1 sip won't impair you just as much as 1 puff won't impair you.[/QUOTE] I agree completely. I drink alcohol fairly regularly and see no problem with it in moderation. Based on my own personal experience, weed is the same. It seems to be fine in moderation... I also agree with your point that just because something is 'good' or 'bad' in certain situations doesn't make it overly good or overly bad, it only applies to those situations. In my own personal experience, driving after smoking a 2 or 3 joints just makes me more cautious on the road, maybe even overcautious. I've only done it a couple times, though. I don't like driving whilst under the influence of anything to be honest and it isn't really a problem since I'm not even a regular user of anything aside from caffeine which I also prefer not to have on the road unless I'm doing a massive journey as it causes me anxiety.
The point is, almost all substances are good in some degree, or at least not bad. If you do drugs in moderation, you're a lot safer than anyone gives you credit for.
[QUOTE=Emperorconor;22322680]It's still not giving you health benefits though. Those who take it before driving that is.[/QUOTE] It isn't used to drive better. Marijuana is used as a type of chronic pain medicine, and does a damn good job at it. Unlike most pain capsules, Marijuana has no 'ill' side effects and is far more effective.
[QUOTE=Superginger;22322706]Sensitive-use Cancer Patients would disagree with you.[/QUOTE] You know what else is pain-relief? Heroin. [editline]11:03PM[/editline] [url]http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;186/4161/317?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=marijuana&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT[/url] [editline]11:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=bravehat;22322942]Compared to how many alcohol related incidents?[/QUOTE] That's not what we're talking about. Drink-driving is illegal.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;22332019]You know what else is pain-relief? Heroin. [editline]11:03PM[/editline] [url]http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;186/4161/317?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=marijuana&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT[/url] [editline]11:04PM[/editline] That's not what we're talking about. Drink-driving is illegal.[/QUOTE] And if marijuana was legal, so would stoned driving. That wouldnt change. Yes, heroin is used for pain relief, so is morphine, and heroin is about as addictive as alcohol, and only slightly more damaging to the body. Your point?
Bull, my friend's brother got in a crash while on pot and got his license revoked AND was put into rehab.
[QUOTE=JC Denton;22332547]Bull, my friend's brother got in a crash while on pot and got his license revoked AND was put into rehab.[/QUOTE] His experiences > Everything else ever? Man, science is great when it works like that!
[QUOTE=lazyguy;22332019]That's not what we're talking about. Drink-driving is illegal.[/QUOTE] The actual crime is "driving while intoxicated", which also covers impairing but non-alcoholic substances.
[QUOTE=Gorgonoth;22322786]You say that like it invalidates the findings.[/QUOTE] If an anti-weed website proved that Weed gave you cancer, you'd all be calling bullshit [editline]03:33PM[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22332497]And if marijuana was legal, so would stoned driving. That wouldnt change. Yes, heroin is used for pain relief, so is morphine, and heroin is about as addictive as alcohol, and only slightly more damaging to the body. Your point?[/QUOTE] Where are you getting this bullshit Heroin may be as addictive as alcohol, sure whatever, but there is no fucking way in hell that it's just as dangerous as alcohol. Heroin is in a whole league of its own, it is THE most dangerous drug.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22332676]If an anti-weed website proved that Weed gave you cancer, you'd all be calling bullshit[/quote] Not if it cited a scientific journal like this one did. [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22332676]Heroin is in a whole league of its own, it is THE most dangerous drug.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the most dangerous drug would be ricin or something similar.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22332735]Not if it cited a scientific journal like this one did. I'm pretty sure the most dangerous drug would be ricin or something similar.[/QUOTE] Yeah I understand that, and I understand that this is fine and all, but people would really be bitching about their agenda even if they proved it gave you cancer, citation and all. Well fuck, you know what I meant.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22332807]Yeah I understand that, and I understand that this is fine and all, but people would really be bitching about their agenda even if they proved it gave you cancer, citation and all. [/QUOTE] I think most people's argument for legalizing marijuana is one that states the government has no business telling people what they can and can't consume. Learning that it causes cancer wouldn't and shouldn't change their stance, frankly.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22332835]I think most people's argument for legalizing marijuana is one that states the government has no business telling people what they can and can't consume. Learning that it causes cancer wouldn't and shouldn't change their stance, frankly.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and I pretty much agree with that. But support for Marijuana would definitely falter until all that remained were the hardcore freedom activists if it was discovered to cause cancer or something.
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