Israel begins expulsion of Palestinian 'Infiltrators'
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[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21544007]yeah arabs stop launching rockets into israel
I know it's your people's favorite pass time but you really have to stop it's hurting people and you frankly look like dicks for doing it. So if all arabs could just please stop that would be great.
-The Management.[/QUOTE]
But they are going to Allah which is a better place than being here.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;21544015]But they are going to Allah which is a better place than being here.[/QUOTE]
Jews don't go to Allah, they are Heretics and will burn in hell. It's a nice thought though.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;21544040]Jews don't go to Allah, they are Heretics and will burn in hell. It's a nice thought though.[/QUOTE]
But Jews dont believe in hell.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;21544066]But Jews dont believe in hell.[/QUOTE]
They don't believe in Allah either, all they got is racist old Jehovah.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;21544090]They don't believe in Allah either, all they got is racist old Jehovah.[/QUOTE]
But in the Latin alphabet Jehovah begins with an I.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;21544105]But in the Latin alphabet Jehovah begins with an I.[/QUOTE]
Jews don't speak Latin either.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;21544138]Jews don't speak Latin either.[/QUOTE]
I thought the Jewish god was Yahweh.
Yaweh is a wrathful judge and he shalth slaughter the guilty.
Sorry, had to say it.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;21543192]Stuff about Israel Beitenu Party[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know this party is extremely racist, it's our foreign minister's party who is a racist douch that wants to remove all the Israeli Arab's citizenship.
A lot of people are calling for the abolition of the party, in the 70's there was a party with a platform which can be summed up with "drive all the Arabs into the sea", the party was obviously banned and is the only Party in Israel's history to be banned, even though there are Arab anti-Israeli parties (4 of them are right now in the Knesset, and they call for the destruction of Israel, yet we still let them be a part of politics).
Anyway if Israel Beitenu will continue to act like this they will be banned, it's obvious to everyone here.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Land_Administration"][COLOR=#002bb8]Israel Land Administration[/COLOR][/URL], which administers 93% of the land in Israel (including the land owned by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_National_Fund"][COLOR=#002bb8]Jewish National Fund[/COLOR][/URL]), refuses to lease land to non-Jewish foreign nationals, which includes Palestinian residents of Jerusalem who have identity cards but are not citizens of Israel.
The 2007 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices[190] notes that:
"According to a 2005 study at Hebrew University, three times more money was invested in education of Jewish children as in Arab children."
Although the Bedouin infant mortality rate is still the highest in Israel, and one of the highest in the developed world, The Guardian reports that in the 2002 budget, Israel's health ministry allocated Arab communities less than 0.6% of its budget for healthcare facility development.[173]
In March 2010, a report released by several Israeli civil rights groups claimed that the current Knesset was "the most racist in Israeli history" with 21 bills proposed in 2008 and 2009 that would discriminate against the country's Arab minority.[192][/QUOTE]
Yeah there's a lot of land in Israel which can't be leased to Arabs, this is because of Israel's identity as a Jewish state. Basically the Jews want to keep the state Jewish and so there are some laws which help Israel maintain this identity (like the law which allows only Jews to immigrate to Israel, except for rare cases).
Also there have been cases when Arabs bought lands in these territories.
So what if the Jews get invested in more at the universities? We also have laws that don't let universities not accept Arabs, so for example if a university wants to accept 100 more students on one year, 20% of them must be Arabs, even if they have worse grades than other Jewish candidates.
About the Bedouins I don't know much how they're treated but they don't live in cities, they live in the desert and move all the time, which means Israel can't just open a hospital or something just out there in the Desert. The rest of the Arabs of course use regular hospitals, it's not like they're not allowed there or something.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;21545650]Yeah I know this party is extremely racist, it's our foreign minister's party who is a racist douch that wants to remove all the Israeli Arab's citizenship.
A lot of people are calling for the abolition of the party, in the 70's there was a party with a platform which can be summed up with "drive all the Arabs into the sea", the party was obviously banned and is the only Party in Israel's history to be banned, even though there are Arab anti-Israeli parties (4 of them are right now in the Knesset, and they call for the destruction of Israel, yet we still let them be a part of politics).
Anyway if Israel Beitenu will continue to act like this they will be banned, it's obvious to everyone here.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Land_Administration"][COLOR=#002bb8]Israel Land Administration[/COLOR][/URL], which administers 93% of the land in Israel (including the land owned by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_National_Fund"][COLOR=#002bb8]Jewish National Fund[/COLOR][/URL]), refuses to lease land to non-Jewish foreign nationals, which includes Palestinian residents of Jerusalem who have identity cards but are not citizens of Israel.
The 2007 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices[190] notes that:
"According to a 2005 study at Hebrew University, three times more money was invested in education of Jewish children as in Arab children."
Although the Bedouin infant mortality rate is still the highest in Israel, and one of the highest in the developed world, The Guardian reports that in the 2002 budget, Israel's health ministry allocated Arab communities less than 0.6% of its budget for healthcare facility development.[173]
In March 2010, a report released by several Israeli civil rights groups claimed that the current Knesset was "the most racist in Israeli history" with 21 bills proposed in 2008 and 2009 that would discriminate against the country's Arab minority.[192][/QUOTE]
Yeah there's a lot of land in Israel which can't be leased to Arabs, this is because of Israel's identity as a Jewish state. Basically the Jews want to keep the state Jewish and so there are some laws which help Israel maintain this identity (like the law which allows only Jews to immigrate to Israel, except for rare cases).
Also there have been cases when Arabs bought lands in these territories.
So what if the Jews get invested in more at the universities? We also have laws that don't let universities not accept Arabs, so for example if a university wants to accept 100 more students on one year, 20% of them must be Arabs, even if they have worse grades than other Jewish candidates.
About the Bedouins I don't know much how they're treated but they don't live in cities, they live in the desert and move all the time, which means Israel can't just open a hospital or something just out there in the Desert. The rest of the Arabs of course use regular hospitals, it's not like they're not allowed there or something.[/QUOTE]
You sound like one of those idiots back in the 50s in the South saying "Them Negros and He-Spanics are just as well off as us White, they can ride the bus, and go to school, use public facilities 'n everything, we even gave them their own exclusive ones, now y'all northerners need to shut up since we ain't denyin' them any rights or anything"
[QUOTE=Broseph_;21545773]You sound like one of those idiots back in the 50s in the South saying "Them Negros and He-Spanics are just as well off as us White, they can ride the bus, and go to school, use public facilities 'n everything, we even gave them their own exclusive ones, now y'all northerners need to shut up since we ain't denyin' them any rights or anything"[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;21545650]
About the Bedouins I don't know much how they're treated but they don't live in cities, they live in the desert and move all the time, which means Israel can't just open a hospital or something just out there in the Desert. The rest of the Arabs of course use regular hospitals, it's not like they're not allowed there or something.[/QUOTE]
Lol I saw their sheet metal shacks out in the desert it was like I was on another planet or something.
Anyway I don't get how Israel has such a rightist government now, are Orthodox Jews really that politically powerful?
The Orthodox not so much, but the rightists are. Israel Beitenu isn't really religious but they say some stuff like "If democracy's laws will interfere with Judaism's laws, we will act according to Jewish laws", to get more religious votes.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21542104]it's not a war, and we shouldn't be looking at things from a strictly "logical" perspective, we should be looking at things from a "human rights" perspective
from a "human rights" perspective, this is god damned terrible
jesus christ, you post this dumb "it's a war" argument in every thread about Israel and people always tell you why that's a dumb thing to say, but you ignore them and keep posting it[/QUOTE]
It's the truth. I'm not saying it's necessarily good, but when in wartime, peaceful/kind attitudes should be the last thing on their minds, and war efforts should come first, though human rights would play a big role.
Anyway, I'm still supporting Israel and I think this is a good thing they've done.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21546788]It's the truth. I'm not saying it's necessarily good, but when in wartime, peaceful/kind attitudes should be the last thing on their minds, and war efforts should come first, though human rights would play a big role.
Anyway, I'm still supporting Israel and I think this is a good thing they've done.[/QUOTE]
Wanna know a secret? They're not at war with Palestine. This isn't a war effort, at best it's an extreme anti-terrorist law and at worst it's incredibly racist and detrimental to relations between Palestine and Israel. It's ok to support Israel and disaprove of stupid policies they have, no-one is going to think any less of you.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;21546713]Lol I saw their sheet metal shacks out in the desert it was like I was on another planet or something.
Anyway I don't get how Israel has such a rightist government now, are Orthodox Jews really that politically powerful?[/QUOTE]
According to that Wikipedia article, the Arab-Israelis boycotted one of the elections and let more extreme people in. Didn't think that through, did they? As BurnEmDown said though; if they keep talking shit, they're gonna be banned. That's gotta count for something.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;21546933]
According to that Wikipedia article, the Arab-Israelis boycotted one of the elections and let more extreme people in. Didn't think that through, did they? As BurnEmDown said though; if they keep talking shit, they're gonna be banned. That's gotta count for something.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I sincerely think there's no need for Arabs to vote at all. Whether they vote or not, extremely undesired results will occur.
[QUOTE=starpluck;21547167]To be honest, I sincerely think there's no need for Arabs to vote at all. Whether they vote or not, extremely undesired results will occur.[/QUOTE]
I really don't know what to say. Do you think it's because it doesn't make a difference? They've already had several Arabs voted in and even more Arab friendly Jews. Their votes are counted just the same and 20% of the population can really make a difference. They are given the chance to vote in a fair election so why not take the opportunity?
Their problem is that their votes are split between 3 or 4 parties I think, and each party has the minimum number of Knesset seats a party can have. If they would all form a party they could have a bigger influence.
Also if they would work for improving the Arab's position in Israel and not work for the destruction of Israel, they will get more votes, even from Jewish Israelis. Right now they are just wasting the government's money.
By the way I don't support these laws too, I've said it in the other thread, it's just that you guys make it sound a lot more horrible than it is.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;21546788]It's the truth. I'm not saying it's necessarily good, but when in wartime, peaceful/kind attitudes should be the last thing on their minds, and war efforts should come first, though human rights would play a big role.[/QUOTE]
what's "good" should be the only necessary thing
War doesn't justify atrocities.
and it's not a war. It's not a war it's not a war it's not a war. It's an occupation
It's not a war, but it is a large-scale conflict. This is a phase of "bitter-peace", we don't know what might come next.
Also the entire world is in a war against terror, So if there are anti-Israeli terrorists in the West Bank or Gaza, Israel is at war with them.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;21551975]Also the entire world is in a war against terror, [/QUOTE]
wut
just because bush says it doesn't make it true
OK so some countries support terror and some are neutral about it, but most of the western world is at war with terror.
Still, how can you be at war with terror?
It's like saying you're at war with boredom or anger.
Just saying.
And the best way to make someone stop hating you is not to try and treat them even worse.
war on drugs :rolleye:
I hate American rhetoric.
All I see is baww they're expelling muslims who would, if given the chance, kill jews on sight.
I think it's time the UN stepped in to tell Israel to chill the fuck out.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;21520202]
Replace the words Palestinian with 'Jew' and Gaza with the 'Warsaw Ghetto' and you've got something that sounds awfully familiar in history books.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit another fucking War going to start when Israel wants more land, and isn't the U.S. close allies of Israel?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;21554469]war on drugs :rolleye:
I hate American rhetoric.[/QUOTE]
The War on Violence.
Wait what...
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;21553308]OK so some countries support terror and some are neutral about it, but most of the western world is at war with terror.[/QUOTE]
That's because the UNSC is full of tools.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;21546933]Wanna know a secret? They're not at war with Palestine. This isn't a war effort, at best it's an extreme anti-terrorist law and at worst it's incredibly racist and detrimental to relations between Palestine and Israel. It's ok to support Israel and disaprove of stupid policies they have, no-one is going to think any less of you.[/QUOTE]
Haha that's funny because a solid portion of people in these threads refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist.
[QUOTE=HeyMate;21558229]All I see is baww they're expelling muslims who would, if given the chance, kill jews on sight.[/QUOTE]
congrats on being stupid as hell then
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