• Al-Qaeda force captures Fallujah and declares Islamic State.
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yep its civil war now
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;43413919]Al-Qaeda-affilliated =/= Al Qaeda. I'm really sick and tired of seeing that term in the headlines with nothing whatsoever to back it up, because Americans apparently don't give a shit about a sectarian civil war in Iraq unless one side gets labeled as being "Al Qaeda". What we actually have here is [B]Sunni militia groups[/B] rebelling against a Shia-dominated government that is intentionally alienating them.[/QUOTE] [quote] which [B]local tribes[/B], Iraqi security forces [I][B]and[/B][/I] al-Qaeda-affiliated militants have been fighting one another for days in a confusingly[I][B] chaotic three-way war[/B][/I].[/quote] [quote]The upheaval also affirmed the soaring capabilities of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the rebranded version of the al-Qaeda in Iraq organization that was formed a decade ago to confront U.S. troops and expanded into Syria last year while escalating its activities in Iraq.[/quote]
what honestly thinks they can just declare an entire city a certain religion, some people are just total fucking spastics.
-3 stability to Iraq.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;43413919]Al-Qaeda-affilliated =/= Al Qaeda. I'm really sick and tired of seeing that term in the headlines with nothing whatsoever to back it up, because Americans apparently don't give a shit about a sectarian civil war in Iraq unless one side gets labeled as being "Al Qaeda". What we actually have here is Sunni militia groups rebelling against a Shia-dominated government that is intentionally alienating them.[/QUOTE] This is the same group (ISIS and ISIL) that began attacking the other rebels in Syria. We link the groups to Al Qaeda because the groups are -get this- linked. ISIS has been an organised member of Al Qaeda since 2004.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43414062]yep its civil war now[/QUOTE] Now? Since Saddam was removed the civil war started because every single guy wants to be the ruler. Only way to solve this problem is to put a dictator to rule with an iron hand even worse than Saddam.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43414062]yep its civil war now[/QUOTE] No it's not. There are no defections in the military and the government still outnumbers the insurgents 10 to 1. A civil was implies that there is a split in government or that the two sides are roughly equivalent. This is an insurgency and nothing more, by calling this a civil war you're giving more credit to the insurgents than they're due, and that gets pretty dangerous because it legitimizes them as a force.
This is disheartening to hear. Many of the NCO's in my platoon fought at Fallujah. A lot of blood, sweat and tears were shed there and I can only imagine how they must feel.
[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;43412081]Well this is unfortunate, to say the least. I'm not really well informed regarding the Iraqi forces training, but from what I've been hearing, it's pretty sub-par. So in all honesty this isn't surprising. One can only hope they'll be able to push out the insurgents soon. Otherwise all the fighting all those years ago really were in vain.[/QUOTE] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbK76okexVk[/media]
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