• Greenpeace destroys Genetically modified wheat
    118 replies, posted
[QUOTE=certified;31168786]Government regulations can't stop terrorist organizations and secret societies.[/QUOTE] Well no matter what happens then they're gonna use that technology anyway, it's already easy enough to do at home dude. Besides there's far more effective ways to kill people than a home engineered strain of wheat.
[QUOTE=Pantheocide;31168821]Well no matter what happens then they're gonna use that technology anyway, it's already easy enough to do at home dude. Besides there's far more effective ways to kill people than a home engineered strain of wheat.[/QUOTE] There may be more effective ways, but are there more [i]discreet[/i] ways of doing so? Although a wheat designed with being dangerous to digest would be somewhat easy to trace it's originating harvest, the damage would be done by that time. For example the recent food poisonings in Europe, or more specifically, Germany, although those were natural poisonings caused by carelessness in distribution and other channels, by the time those were traced and recalled, many had already died. Think how much more dangerous that could be if it was caused artificially, and with intent.
To be honest if I was gonna do anything it wouldn't be through modified crops, it would be by using a crp duster and covering the crops and the surrounding transport areas with anthrax or the like. You know, something that's guaranteed to kill.
[QUOTE=certified;31168925]There may be more effective ways, but are there more [i]discreet[/i] ways of doing so? Although a wheat designed with being dangerous to digest would be somewhat easy to trace it's originating harvest, the damage would be done by that time. For example the recent food poisonings in Europe, or more specifically, Germany, although those were natural poisonings caused by carelessness in distribution and other channels, by the time those were traced and recalled, many had already died. Think how much more dangerous that could be if it was caused artificially, and with intent.[/QUOTE] all they have to do is establish a state of the art food engineering center, hire a team of biologists trained to do the job, bribe away the politicians to keep them from shutting them down, and then hire black ops agents to discreetly introduce the strain into farmland around the globe. Then, a short decade later, people will get sick and then imprison you. the perfect crime
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;31169459]all they have to do is establish a state of the art food engineering center, hire a team of biologists trained to do the job, bribe away the politicians to keep them from shutting them down, and then hire black ops agents to discreetly introduce the strain into farmland around the globe. Then, a short decade later, people will get sick and then imprison you. the perfect crime[/QUOTE] i didn't read any of that but because it's a lot of words it's probably funny, good show mr. scorpio
[QUOTE=Bletotum;31167498]As I understand it, the wheat is being developed by a private company, not tax money. There is no reason for them to tell their results to anyone publicly unless they plan on putting it on the market, even then they don't have any reason to share their findings until the research is complete.[/QUOTE] The CSIRO is funded by the federal government, and they are so tied in they are practically a department themselves. I do agree though about research findings not being released until finished, it's proper scientific procedure.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;31169459]all they have to do is establish a state of the art food engineering center, hire a team of biologists trained to do the job, bribe away the politicians to keep them from shutting them down, and then hire black ops agents to discreetly introduce the strain into farmland around the globe. Then, a short decade later, people will get sick and then imprison you. the perfect crime[/QUOTE] This isn't a movie, this is real life. Besides, engineering evil wheat? If they have the resources to do that, then they can do far worse instead. Creating evil wheat sounds like something a Super Villain would do, it's an over elaborate and easily foiled plan.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;31170904]This isn't a movie, this is real life. Besides, engineering evil wheat? If they have the resources to do that, then they can do far worse instead. Creating evil wheat sounds like something a Super Villain would do, it's an over elaborate and easily foiled plan.[/QUOTE] if you really doubt that the NWO can do it then you are even more blind than i first suspected they have people everywhere, who knows what they'll do to fulfill the plots of their reptilian masonic masters?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;31170947]if you really doubt that the NWO can do it then you are even more blind than i first suspected they have people everywhere, who knows what they'll do to fulfill the plots of their reptilian masonic masters?[/QUOTE] Now I can't tell if you're joking or not-
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;31170947]if you really doubt that the NWO can do it then you are even more blind than i first suspected they have people everywhere, who knows what they'll do to fulfill the plots of their reptilian masonic masters?[/QUOTE] That is silly. There is no New World Order. Please cease mentions of New World Order. Now please.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;31170947]reptilian masonic masters?[/QUOTE] p sure hes serious yeah
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31171302]p sure hes serious yeah[/QUOTE] It can be hard to tell, some people actually believe that, and I know we have a few conspiracy nuts around here somewhere.
Fuck Greenpeace honestly,scientists who hardly work on this for months,suddenly get their experiment destroyed in a day by high hippies.
I've never really truly hated anyone for their beliefs, but I guess that's changed now.
Good, we are running out of food for overproducing too much, which is why 4 billion people around the world are in bad conditions, too much food=too many people=less food and then mass famine.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;31259568]Good, we are running out of food for overproducing too much, which is why 4 billion people around the world are in bad conditions, too much food=too many people=less food and then mass famine.[/QUOTE] How the fuck does that make any logical sense? If you have enough food for people then they won't starve. The problem is when food production declines or a drought occurs, and genetically modifying wheat to produce more is trying to fix this damn problem.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;31259568]Good, we are running out of food for overproducing too much, which is why 4 billion people around the world are in bad conditions, too much food=too many people=less food and then mass famine.[/QUOTE] That's some pretty insane troll logic you got there.
I think he's talking about population flux.
fucking idiots, [B]iirc[/B] genetically modified food has little to nothing to do with chemicals and doesn't even affect our bodies in a negative way if we consume them (assuming the animal/human tests were successful). I mean isn't that the reason they're GENETICALLY modified? So the plants can produce it on their own? unless i'm thinkign about something else, I don't expect this to be completely safe, not to mention it could have an effect on the enviroment [editline]21st July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;31259568]too much food=too many people=less food[/QUOTE] absolutely flawless logic right there, our next generation in action
[QUOTE=KingKombat;31260940]fucking idiots, [B]iirc[/B] genetically modified food has little to nothing to do with chemicals and doesn't even affect our bodies in a negative way if we consume them (assuming the animal/human tests were successful). I mean isn't that the reason they're GENETICALLY modified? So the plants can produce it on their own? unless i'm thinkign about something else, I don't expect this to be completely safe, not to mention it could have an effect on the enviroment [editline]21st July 2011[/editline] absolutely flawless logic right there, our next generation in action[/QUOTE] but it has to be ~natural~ hombre or else its bad and will kill us and be evil and stuff [editline]21st July 2011[/editline] saying this while typing on my man-made computer
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31259679]How the fuck does that make any logical sense? If you have enough food for people then they won't starve. The problem is when food production declines or a drought occurs, and genetically modifying wheat to produce more is trying to fix this damn problem.[/QUOTE] We don't have enough land to cultivate enough food to feed the amount of people on this planet, of course no one understands/cares.
How pointless because we kind of need this shit. Well the demand is probably gonna rise in the future anyway
Greenpeace just seem to be opposed to progress.
[QUOTE=clanratc;31107614]You can do the same thing with selective breeding, the only real difference is that selective breeding takes longer and is more difficult. Imposing regulations on genetically modifying crops but not selective breeding is stupid, as they are almost the same thing. I wish Greenpeace would understand this.[/QUOTE] Selective breeding is natural in the respect that there isn't much of a possibility of introducing foreign genes into the plants. GMOs can be as wicked as self-terminating crops that virtually coerce the farmers using the plants to buy new seed each year. You can't selectively breed self-terminating crops, nor can you selectively breed the type of crops made by Monsanto which produce harmful hesticides. Would you like to eat a crop that produces herbicides? I know I don't, and that's why I am leery of GMOs, I'd rather keep things natural. [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=KingKombat;31260940]fucking idiots, [B]iirc[/B] genetically modified food has little to nothing to do with chemicals and doesn't even affect our bodies in a negative way if we consume them (assuming the animal/human tests were successful). I mean isn't that the reason they're GENETICALLY modified? So the plants can produce it on their own? unless i'm thinkign about something else, I don't expect this to be completely safe, not to mention it could have an effect on the enviroment [editline]21st July 2011[/editline] absolutely flawless logic right there, our next generation in action[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm#headingA11[/url] There are studies that show signs of toxicity and organ damage in rats who were feed GM maize, the kind that produces herbicide. The rats' livers and kidneys were showing signs of damage and stress due to the herbicide.
[QUOTE=clanratc;31107614]You can do the same thing with selective breeding, the only real difference is that selective breeding takes longer and is more difficult. Imposing regulations on genetically modifying crops but not selective breeding is stupid, as they are almost the same thing. I wish Greenpeace would understand this.[/QUOTE] Doing that with selective breeding takes really long and they can't make huge changes at all. Something like GI doesn't vary much naturally, and every new crop takes several months to make, so drastically changing the G index is a really really long process. I visited a place where they breed and use the newest gene technology to fasten the production (they also do genetic modification testing but they don't have permissions to do it for industrial purposes. ) and they said it takes 8-20 years (on plants that can be harvested once/twice a year) to make the final product with the desired properties. And you cannot add properties that don't exist already using regular breeding. [QUOTE=snuwoods;31288874] [url]http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm#headingA11[/url] There are studies that show signs of toxicity and organ damage in rats who were feed GM maize, the kind that produces herbicide. The rats' livers and kidneys were showing signs of damage and stress due to the herbicide.[/QUOTE] Well that is because the herbicide or some other byproduct damages their livers and kidneys. And that's why they are being tested and a product like this probably wouldn't get to the market. It doesn't happen just because they're genetically modified. The same could have happened in the nature too.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;31283676]We don't have enough land to cultivate enough food to feed the amount of people on this planet, of course no one understands/cares.[/QUOTE] Yes we do. 70% of the worlds surface may be water, but the water is like the skin on an eggshell. You are forgetting we can grow food in skyscrapers, underground, underwater and not all of it is coming from a single corn field in Idaho. Plus with global warming coming about absolutely massive tracts of land for agricultural use in Russia, Canada and Greenland will soon come into being. As well as this, it's not production that's the problem. ITS DUE TO RODENTS, POOR INFRASTRUCTURE/DISTRIBUTION AND BARRIERS TO MOVEMENT OF FOOD.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31289827]You are forgetting we can grow food in skyscrapers, underground, underwater and not all of it is coming from a single corn field in Idaho.[/QUOTE] I would love to see a building that's twenty floors plus of greenhouses in a city.
Texaco [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sobotnik;31289827]Yes we do. 70% of the worlds surface may be water, but the water is like the skin on an eggshell. You are forgetting we can grow food in skyscrapers, underground, underwater and not all of it is coming from a single corn field in Idaho. Plus with global warming coming about absolutely massive tracts of land for agricultural use in Russia, Canada and Greenland will soon come into being. As well as this, it's not production that's the problem. ITS DUE TO RODENTS, POOR INFRASTRUCTURE/DISTRIBUTION AND BARRIERS TO MOVEMENT OF FOOD.[/QUOTE] It's due to the fact that the export of luxery goods brings more money than basic needs food. If i as a farmer had the choice to produce coffee for 10 k a year or rice for 5 k a year I would produce coffee.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.