Spike announces GOTY nominees, it's not a good list.
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[QUOTE==DarkStar=;38482083]Pretty much all the games in the list sucks mayor cocks.
XCOM and The walking dead should be the winners right away:
XCOM is a good follow up from the original in many ways and The Walking dead got something most of the games right now lacks: a fucking soul and charm.[/QUOTE]
Actually the greatest criticism about XCOM 2012 is that it's dumbed-down babby shit compared to the older titles?
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38482145]Actually the greatest criticism about XCOM 2012 is that it's dumbed-down babby shit compared to the older titles?[/QUOTE]
I think it holds rather ok. Look at any other continuation from any other game series, XCOM is the best out there at least.
Max payne was pretty lame and it came short from the against the two original games and Halo 4 is just ok, nothing ground breaking like the first one.
[QUOTE=mixshifter;38482095]Unfortunately a game usually has to sell well in order to earn a place for GOTY. If I recall correctly, Spec Ops did not have the best sales, despite how good of a game it is.[/QUOTE]
Games should not be judged by how many copies are sold; they should be judged by their actual goddamn content.
[QUOTE=Matrix374;38482057]Spec Ops needs to be in the list[/QUOTE]
Everything was great except the game play that's the only fault from me. It's not GOTY material but it's worthy of recognition for story or setting for sure.
The GOTY list could be worse, lets face it this year has been filled with copy paste crap. Dishonored was a stellar game, they put the effort into creating a wonderful game and you can see that everywhere within that game, it fell a little short in my estimations but i can overlook that because iv'e had a good 30+ hours of fun so far even if most of that is just by being a total cock. I want to see more of dishonored.
The Walking dead was also a highlight for me, I was worried at first but for £12 in a steam sale i can certainly say iv'e enjoyed it a lot, It's a totally different experience from everything on the market these days and they deserve the credit for what they have done.
X-Com is a true PC game, it's a little too easy for my liking but it's a well crafted game.
But all of this is futile because Halo (which i am a fan of in general) or Black Ops will no doubt win, while i like the 2 games they have not set any benchmarks outside their own franchises and are not really worthy of a mention in my opinion.
Why is Diablo 3 on the nomination list for best PC game?
Basically all of the nominations are crap except for Torchlight 2, which is a pretty nice game.
[QUOTE=Nikota;38478304]It's not that I crave "action", it's the fact that there's no challenge to the game and the platforming has no consequences due to it being like, oh, you fell? Well I'll just put you back where you were.[/QUOTE]
The challenge is in the puzzle solving, and the game is more about the experience of playing it. Kind of like Journey. That game was really enjoyable to play thorugh and really damn cool, despite literally having no "challenge" or anything.
A game doesn't have to be challenging to be worth something. I.E. Braid, a brilliant little game that by all acounts is easy to beat, but will make you think trying to solve the puzzles and having fun with it.
I know FP has this huge boner over hating on Fez and I don't really know why other than the fact that the only experience most of this fourm actually has with the game is hearing news about some dickish remarks the creator has made every now and then. Most people I know who have played it genuinely like it. I suspect most of FP would have liked it too if it actually came out on PC and the dev didn't open his big mouth and say a bunch of stupid shit.
[quote]Journey[/quote]
haha
Are they serious?
The Walking Dead deserves GOTY
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38477225]Mass Effect 2 was perfectly paced and put together, 3 was just a frantic and completely un-memorable clusterfuck, easily the weakest out of the 3.[/QUOTE]
except for lacking any importance of story at all? And paced?
segment 0 - minor main storyline mission
segment 1 - huge nonmain storyline squadmate segment
segment 2 - minor main storylien segment
segment 3 - huge nonmainstoryline squadmate segment
segment 4 - getting to the end in two missions.
[QUOTE=J!NX;38478652]How many game parts does it have so far anyways? and whats the cost of all parts together so far?
I should watch the show and afterwards consider it. However there are many currently 60$ games I'm also considering and I don't exactly have a "boatload of cash".
to see a show turned into a game and still retain quality it a wonderfully powerful thing.[/QUOTE]
The show is nothing compared to the comic of which the game shares more tone with. The game has no characters in common with the show or comic except for a few cameo sort of meets. It is its own thing.
I don't know why people are complaining about Mass Effect 3 so much, the entire game (minus the sub-par ending) felt like a great Mass Effect game to me. I'd say out of games released this year, it would deserve to be on that list.
[QUOTE=locojaws;38483981]I don't know why people are complaining about Mass Effect 3 so much, the entire game (minus the sub-par ending) felt like a great Mass Effect game to me. I'd say out of games released this year, it would deserve to be on that list.[/QUOTE]
I think the game has too many issues to really be GOTY material. The game did a lot of things right, but its faults are really kind of baffling:
- Why, after two games of having a perfectly functional journal, does ME3 break it and make it completely useless?
- WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FETCH QUESTS OH GOD HELP
- Cerberus was not given the writing treatment they deserved and became largely one-dimensional antagonists. Also Kai Leng.
- Too much auto-dialogue. Yeah, Shepard felt more like an actual person than he did at any other point in this series and I definitely appreciate that, but way too often did I lose control over what he was saying. Plus they gave him some idiot lines: "We fight, or we die!"
- The whole opening of the game (Vancouver section) was high in production values, but abysmally low in substance. No sense of pacing whatsoever.
- [sp]Legion dying for no legitimate reason.[/sp]
- And of course, the ending. But, we've beaten that particular horse to death, resurrected it, then killed it again.
Mass Effect 3 has a lot going for it (nice visuals, great sound design, best-in-series character interactions, best gameplay, etc), but the flaws were really frustrating. Even more so than the prior entries in the series.
[QUOTE=locojaws;38483981]I don't know why people are complaining about Mass Effect 3 so much, the entire game (minus the sub-par ending) [B]felt like a great Mass Effect game[/B] to me. I'd say out of games released this year, it would deserve to be on that list.[/QUOTE]
I think that's the key to all of this. Something "feeling like a good Mass Effect game" means about as much as feeling like a decent TPS. The Mass Effect series, IMO, was always story above gameplay. If the story is struggling, is there anything about the gameplay that makes it stand up above other titles this year? I'd say no. The combat doesn't make any massive leaps forward, the sidequests are mostly boring fetchquests, there isn't much else moving forward if the main story doesn't work out.
mass effect 3 felt a little more like call of duty modern warfare than mass effect 1
[QUOTE=Tudd;38477135][url]http://kotaku.com/5961061/spike-vgas-announce-nominees-for-best-video-games-of-november[/url]
Where is Sleeping Dogs, Borderlands 2, and or just anything else? I think we need another Vidya Games Awards from 4chan.[/QUOTE]
Spike TV doesn't care about what the best game of the year is. They care about making a controversial best game of the year list so that you will get mad and post a thread about Spike TV, so a bunch of people who don't watch Spike TV will post in a Spike TV thread about Spike TV.
"Best of" lists are just self-promotion, there is literally no reason to care about them.
[QUOTE=Tudd;38477135][url]http://kotaku.com/5961061/spike-vgas-announce-nominees-for-best-video-games-of-november[/url]
Where is Sleeping Dogs, Borderlands 2, and or just anything else? I think we need another Vidya Games Awards from 4chan.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, OP. Assassin's Creed III seems worthy of a nomination. It's got a crapload of content.
XCOM should be up there too.
That game was some shit.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;38484820]mass effect 3 felt a little more like call of duty modern warfare than mass effect 1[/QUOTE]
well combat in ME1 was complete shit and apparently they gradually improved that in ME2 and 3, so I'd say yeah it should have felt more like a shooter
unless you mean it was linear or something
also I just finished xcom and it's goty all years oh my god it's so fresh and good
How is Max Payne 3 not up there? It's the most fluid shooter of the year, it's beautiful all the way through, it's story isn't crap and is really inspired by neo-cinema and post cinema films, and is a really fucking FUN game.
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Or BL2, a game that I got a 100 hours out of before I even thought about being bored in it.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;38478743]'Game has cartoonesque grafics hence TF2-like' kind of comment[/QUOTE]
As graphic style, Dishonoured looks more like an even more polished version of Alice: Madness Returns in my honest opinion. (both on Unreal Engine 3 afterall)
[QUOTE=locojaws;38483981]I don't know why people are complaining about Mass Effect 3 so much, the entire game (minus the sub-par ending) felt like a great Mass Effect game to me. I'd say out of games released this year, it would deserve to be on that list.[/QUOTE]
I'd argue the opposite. Mass Effect 3 (bar the horrid ending) felt like a good game to me. But did it feel like a good Mass Effect game? God no!
They completely managed to somehow kill the atmosphere in ME3. ME2s atmosphere was different from ME1s - not bad, just different (though personally I enjoyed the ME1 atmosphere more), and ME3 just... felt lacking almost all together (there were obviously the good parts though, like curing the Genophage, etc).
So many feels in ME1. Eden Prime, first time you see the Citadel (chills down my motherfucking spine), every fucking time you're actually on the citadel, the eerie "something's not quite right here," feeling with Feros, the Journey to Peak 15, actually being at Peak 15, Virmire (oh god, Virmire!), Ilos' dead atmosphere, meeting Vigil on Ilos, battle of the Citadel, and, hell, even unexplored worlds. So many fucking feels.
In terms of atmosphere ME1 had found the magic fucking formula. They could have stuck with that for the whole trilogy and I'd have shriveled, useless balls by this point.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38485123]well combat in ME1 was complete shit and apparently they gradually improved that in ME2 and 3, so I'd say yeah it should have felt more like a shooter
unless you mean it was linear or something[/QUOTE]
ME3 streamlined choices in upgrading your characters, and overall felt less like an RPG. i would even go to say that ME3 outright dropped its RPG roots and said "we shooter now".
that and it held your hand. a lot. and don't get me started on specific things like forced slow-mo scenes and follow-the-leader sequences with do-as-you're-told sequences.
but hey ME3 will probably win spike's shitty goty contest anyway, and tbh not a fuck will be given because it's spike
Spec Ops : The Line or Max Payne 3. Either one of them deserve to be GOTY in my opinion.
[QUOTE=locojaws;38483981]I don't know why people are complaining about Mass Effect 3 so much, the entire game (minus the sub-par ending) felt like a great Mass Effect game to me. I'd say out of games released this year, it would deserve to be on that list.[/QUOTE]
This.
So much.
There's this MASSIVE bandwagon about it being a really bad game when it's really not.
It's lacking atmosphere from ME1 but so is ME2, but that doesn't make it a bad game in itself.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;38478821]
Also, I don't recall TF2 looking like this.
[t]http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2012/08/Dishonored2.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
oh my god what the [B]FUCK [/B]are they wearing.
[QUOTE=Syrix;38483721]Why is Diablo 3 on the nomination list for best PC game?
Basically all of the nominations are crap except for Torchlight 2, which is a pretty nice game.[/QUOTE]
Because a lot of people enjoyed it.
[QUOTE=ironman17;38482245]Games should not be judged by how many copies are sold; they should be judged by their actual goddamn content.[/QUOTE]
If we were judging Spec Ops by it's content it would be a decently constructed third person shooter with an interesting setting and a sort of interesting story.
Not a bad game, but not really GOTY material. Gameplay should carry more than story.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;38485809]Because a lot of people enjoyed it.
If we were judging Spec Ops by it's content it would be a decently constructed third person shooter with an interesting setting and a sort of interesting story.
Not a bad game, but not really GOTY material. Gameplay should carry more than story.[/QUOTE]
I'd say a GOTY stands out in some way. Doesn't need to be gameplay, doesn't need to be everything. Spec Ops could be a runner up, since it's story and the dev's statements on multiplayer are a fresh look at how war is depicted in videogames.
assassin's creed 3: most flawed game I've ever played. dishonoured: clumsy, run of the mill, dodge the vision cone. the walking dead: not a game. journey: really? mass effect 3: only game on the list worth the plastic it comes in, still not worthy of GOTY. robert bowling made this list.
Sleeping dogs? I haven't even played the fucking game yet because it doesn't even start
gg square
Spec Ops should get nominated for Best Writing or something like that, but anything more would be somewhat undeserved
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