[QUOTE=Lankist;19698132]If we want to take this to a rape analogy, we would say that the girl wanted sex and the guy gave it to her, and she ended up not liking it after all was said and done.
we would say that the girl wanted sex and the guy gave it to her
What does that mean you sick little shit?[/QUOTE]
Captain Carnage asked for punishment from Rorschach.
A girl asks for sex from a man.
Murder is never acceptable in our society.
But it is in some others.
Some people deserve to die, some people need to die.
Do you understand?
And why would I need to question my morality, I don't value the suffering of those who don't value the suffering of others.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698189]Murder is never acceptable in our society.
But it is in some others.
Some people deserve to die, some people need to die.
Do you understand?[/QUOTE]
You approve of murder and endorse it. You are a blemish and a threat to my society who might be infected by your way of thinking.
Please tell me your address so I can go Rosrarch on you and kill you. Some people deserve to die, some people need to die, like you.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698163]Captain Carnage asked for punishment from Rorschach.
A girl asks for sex from a man.[/QUOTE]
So if someone gave you a gun and asked you to shoot them would you do it?
Because that's basically the same as what Rorschach did.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19698225]You approve of murder and endorse it. You are a blemish and a threat to my society who might be infected by your way of thinking.
Please tell me your address so I can go Rosrarch on you and kill you. Some people deserve to die, some people need to die, like you.[/QUOTE]
His way of thinking only applies to dangerous criminals, by saying "i'm going to kill you because you kill bad people" is a complete hypocritical statement.
It's not even clever, why do you guys even attempt it?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19698225]You approve of murder and endorse it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, of criminals. In some cases.
I do not endorse murder in general.
I approve of people punishing criminals, but I'd never ask someone to kill someone else for me.
I don't even get where you got the 'your ideas will infect my society, I must kill you to protect it.' arguement from. I haven't said anything even related to that?
So I won't even address it.
[QUOTE=Melkor;19698268]So if someone gave you a gun and asked you to shoot them would you do it?
Because that's basically the same as what Rorschach did.[/QUOTE]
I'm not in Rorschachs shoes.
If however, I had a gun, I believed someone did terrible things, I had a lack of understanding of human nature, I had an objective moral compass, and knew I could get away with it, yes I would.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698299]Yes, of criminals. In some cases.
I do not endorse murder in general.
I approve of people punishing criminals, but I'd never ask someone to kill someone else for me.[/QUOTE]
So you're OK with the Government saying "FUCK YOU" to our fifth amendment, which our founding fathers made, and killing a living human being without any consequences?
We need more people like you, if only people like you were the 3/4 of population. We'd be an awesome totalitarian state.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698321]I'm not in Rorschachs shoes.
If however, I had a gun, I believed someone did terrible things, I had a lack of understanding of human nature, I had an objective moral compass, and knew I could get away with it, yes I would.[/QUOTE]
Rorschach would have had to have been a bigger idiot than I thought possible to believe that Captain Carnage was a serious criminal.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19698342]So you're OK with the Government saying "FUCK YOU" to our fifth amendment, which our founding fathers made, and killing a living human being without any consequences?
We need more people like you, if only people like you were the 3/4 of population. We'd be an awesome totalitarian state.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we should respect the rights of a criminal who doesn't respect the rights of others.
And if anything it would be more preferable for private citizens to carry out this civic duty anonymously. Widespread vigilantism is probably not a good thing. But it's nice once in a while to let the criminals know that they won't get away it.
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[QUOTE=Melkor;19698357]Rorschach would have had to have been a bigger idiot than I thought possible to believe that Captain Carnage was a serious criminal.[/QUOTE]
I lol'd. It's possible Rorscach just considered him a worthless idiot as he thinks of the human species as a whole. He may have not intended to kill him, just get rid of him. Unfortunately enough for captain carnage.
[QUOTE=Melkor;19698357]Rorschach would have had to have been a bigger idiot than I thought possible to believe that Captain Carnage was a serious criminal.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Rorschach didn't think he was a serious criminal, maybe he thought that Captain Carnage honestly wanted to be punished. I'm still open for the possibility that he did believe that Captain Carnage was a serious criminal though.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698376]Yes, we should respect the rights of a criminal who doesn't respect the rights of others.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter if they're criminals. They're still in USA and as long they remain in USA, they will be abided by the fifth amendment, something we're built on. Other wise, what's next? Government doesn't like a whistle blower, they're going to say he did some shit, he's not human, and should be executed. And they won't be penalized because of people like you.
Sir, I think you're not meant for my country.
Go to China. You'd fit right in.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698163]Captain Carnage asked for punishment from Rorschach.
A girl asks for sex from a man.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about reality you fool.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698154]Defending myself from pointless comments that don't bother going into too much detail themselves. If you want a serious debate then give me something to respond too properly.[/QUOTE]
Vigilantes are barbaric
[QUOTE=Lankist;19698436]I'm talking about reality you fool.[/QUOTE]
If a girl gets raped it is the attackers fault.
If a girl asks for sex and gets it, it's her fault.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698189]Some people deserve to die, some people need to die..[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19698453]Vigilantes are barbaric[/QUOTE]
So are criminals, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698467]If a girl gets raped it is the attackers fault.
If a girl asks for sex and gets it, it's her fault.[/QUOTE]
You're the only person who is saying girls ask for rape.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19698469]Why?[/QUOTE]
So they don't harm others and don't fuck up society further.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;19698478]You're the only person who is saying girls ask for rape.[/QUOTE]
Girls ask for sex all the time. I really don't understand what you are trying to get out of this.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698470]So are criminals, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.[/QUOTE]
Yes that certainly never turns out terribly.
I mean just look at Waco, they sure did wonderfully when they stockpiled weapons and brought their families into that extremely flammable building.
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[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698482]So they don't harm others and don't fuck up society further.[/QUOTE]
That can be solved by locking them up for the rest of their lives.
What does death accomplish that indefinite imprisonment does not?
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698189]Murder is never acceptable in our society.
But it is in some others.
Some people deserve to die, some people need to die.
Do you understand?
And why would I need to question my morality, I don't value the suffering of those who don't value the suffering of others.[/QUOTE]
no one deserves to die, where are you coming from?
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698482]So they don't harm others and don't fuck up society further.[/QUOTE]
What the hell do you think the prison system is for then?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;19698413]It doesn't matter if they're criminals. They're still in USA and as long they remain in USA, they will be abided by the fifth amendment, something we're built on.[/QUOTE]
That's a very nice sentiment, if all criminals were brought to trial. And everyone who was guilty, was found equally guilty. I'd probably agree with it.
I like to consider myself a realist, and it is just my opinion that most crimes go unpunished.
what about people into BDSM
they value the suffering in others
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19698525]no one deserves to die, where are you coming from?[/QUOTE]
No, that's what you believe. I believe that some people are better off dead. Or at least, we're better off if they're dead.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698537]That's a very nice sentiment, if all criminals were brought to trial. And everyone who was guilty, was found equally guilty. I'd probably agree with it.
I like to consider myself a realist, and it is just my opinion that most crimes go unpunished.[/QUOTE]
Being a realist is ok. But when it becomes barbaric, IE what you want, then it's unacceptable
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698537]That's a very nice sentiment, if all criminals were brought to trial. And everyone who was guilty, was found equally guilty. I'd probably agree with it.
I like to consider myself a realist, and it is just my opinion that most crimes go unpunished.[/QUOTE]
Yet another stupid kid acting as though they understand the judicial system.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19698539]what about people into BDSM
they value the suffering in others[/QUOTE]
It isn't suffering is it, it's pain for the sake of pleasure. There aren't any real victims in BDSM, it's sex. People have partners.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19698539]what about people into BDSM
they value the suffering in others[/QUOTE]
How do you draw the line between consensual sadism and torture?
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698482]So they don't harm others and don't fuck up society further.
[/QUOTE]
thats why Texas has the highest murder rate of all 50 states, yet they commit the death penalty the most right?
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