• Corpses Dumped With Vigilante Warnings in Mexico
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[QUOTE=Lankist;19698890]Well murder isn't justice, and vengeance isn't justice. And as long as it feels "right?" Jesus have you ever read Moby Dick? Surprise! You aren't going to feel right after you fucking MURDER SOMEONE.[/QUOTE] Depends who you're murdering? I don't know what justice is, I only know what I feel is fairness.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698935]Depends who you're murdering?[/QUOTE] So how many people have YOU murdered exactly? Jesus you are a psychopath. See, us normal human beings, we tend not to WANT to kill people. And when we do, we feel REALLY badly about it afterward. When you DON'T feel badly you either have PTSD or you are mentally ill.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19698774]No, you are being intellectually trumped by Lankist. I am not trolling you, I am refuting your stupid opinions.[/QUOTE] The main reason i said this is because of your vast misrepresentations of others opinions, through every thread i've seen you argue in, and your terrible analogies that don't reflect a proper connection. IE [QUOTE=Lankist;19698045]By that logic your complete lack of empathy makes you an animal, and permits me to find you and kill you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lankist;19698058]You are seriously saying that when a young woman gets raped on the street it is her fault.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698816]Is that your opinion that most cons are repeat offenders, or a fact? A redemption is priceless. For someone to realise the suffering they've caused and to change who they are as a result of it.[/QUOTE] Fact You're right that you cannot put a price on a human redemption, but by releasing prisoners back into society you are putting more harm than the few that have that redemption.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698949] Fact You're right that you cannot put a price on a human redemption, but by releasing prisoners back into society you are putting more harm than the few that have that redemption.[/QUOTE] So we should condemn the few that might have a chance, to save the many? That's despicable, but I'm a great believer in the greater good.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698949]You're right that you cannot put a price on a human redemption, but by releasing prisoners back into society you are putting more harm than the few that have that redemption.[/QUOTE] Someone's clearly been living in a sheltered cul-de-sac for too long.
My dad was robbed by a cop when he went to mexico :C
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19698973]That's despicable, but I'm a great believer in the greater good.[/QUOTE] The greater good doesn't entail the legalization of murder.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19698945]So how many people have YOU murdered exactly? Jesus you are a psychopath. See, us normal human beings, we tend not to WANT to kill people. And when we do, we feel REALLY badly about it afterward. When you DON'T feel badly you either have PTSD or you are mentally ill.[/QUOTE] You have no idea what you're talking about. When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing. [IMG]http://www.outsidecontext.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/windowslivewriterramboiv-13574rambo4-2-2.jpg[/IMG] Jokes aside, if you need proof. Take a look at the bloody history of mankind. Killing can't be that hard, we've been doing it fucking centuries, and we aren't about to stop soon. We aren't as different from our ancestors as you'd like to think. I don't pretend to say that I could kill someone, even someone that I believed 100% deserved to die without feeling like a sick fuck afterward. But it wouldn't stop me doing it before would it? You don't feel regret until after.
Killing isn't hard. Living after killing/being killed is. Hence why it's ILLEGAL. [editline]01:53AM[/editline] It's funny that on one hand you say killing criminals is OK because they're animals. And THEN you say that EVERYONE is an animal because we can all kill.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19698945]So how many people have YOU murdered exactly? Jesus you are a psychopath. See, us normal human beings, we tend not to WANT to kill people. And when we do, we feel REALLY badly about it afterward. When you DON'T feel badly you either have PTSD or you are mentally ill.[/QUOTE] PTSD would more often be the reason people felt badly - or a consequence of it. Otherwise cause repression of remorse and subsequently depression.
By your logic everyone can kill everyone and it is morally acceptable.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19699040]By your logic everyone can kill everyone and it is morally acceptable.[/QUOTE] Damn you're bad at this.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;19698949] You're right that you cannot put a price on a human redemption, but by releasing prisoners back into society you are putting more harm than [B]the few [/B]that have that redemption.[/QUOTE] By the few, that means you know the psychology of criminals. [editline]07:56AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Oecleus;19699058]Damn you're bad at this.[/QUOTE] haha, no you're just terrible at making arguments
[QUOTE=Lankist;19699023]Killing isn't hard. Living after killing/being killed is. [/QUOTE] Yes, living after being killed tends to be a tad difficult.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699006]You have no idea what you're talking about. When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing. [IMG]http://www.outsidecontext.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/windowslivewriterramboiv-13574rambo4-2-2.jpg[/IMG] Jokes aside, if you need proof. Take a look at the bloody history of mankind. Killing can't be that hard, we've been doing it fucking centuries, and we aren't about to stop soon. We aren't as different from our ancestors as you'd like to think. I don't pretend to say that I could kill someone, even someone that I believed 100% deserved to die without feeling like a sick fuck afterward. But it wouldn't stop me doing it before would it? You don't feel regret until after.[/QUOTE] PTSD is a communist lie i tells you
Crime and Punishment is a good book that centers around this topic. You may or may not agree with murder, but it's simply part of humanity. Animals do it to each other all the time. The only reason we're different is because we have the capacity of logic. Some people are psychopaths, some are mentally insane, and some are in euphoria. But no matter who violates your rights, you're going to defend them. This man took it to an extreme. Was it justifiable? In his world, yes. Is it justifiable in our culture? It depends on his motives. also god damn lankist it's been 6 hours and you're still going at this?
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699073]Yes, living after being killed tends to be a tad difficult.[/QUOTE] then why champion it?
I think the death penalty is good in places like California, mostly cause it scares people enough to hopefully not murder anyone.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19699093]then why champion it?[/QUOTE] You should read that again?
[QUOTE=HQRSE;19699095]I think the death penalty is good in places like California, mostly cause it scares people enough to hopefully not murder anyone.[/QUOTE] That's retarded logic
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699006]I don't pretend to say that I could kill someone, even someone that I believed 100% deserved to die without feeling like a sick fuck afterward. But it wouldn't stop me doing it before would it? You don't feel regret until after.[/QUOTE] I'd like to see you try it cracka.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699109]You should read that again?[/QUOTE] You are championing murder. If you understand why murder is wrong, why do you defend it?
[QUOTE=HQRSE;19699095]I think the death penalty is good in places like California, mostly cause it scares people enough to hopefully not murder anyone.[/QUOTE] It might scare some people and probably won't stop a crime of passion, and I doubt that it'll stop a determined murderer. It might though, it's hard to say.
[QUOTE=HQRSE;19699095]I think the death penalty is good in places like California, mostly cause it scares people enough to hopefully not murder anyone.[/QUOTE] A government's job is to enforce laws, not strike fear into the hearts of its people.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19699137]You are championing murder. If you understand why murder is wrong, why do you defend it?[/QUOTE] I understand that murder is wrong, but I'm also mature enough to know that sometimes it's necessary. Sometimes we have to do things that we don't like. I'm not saying these men HAD to be murdered anyway, I'm just saying that in that situation. If the law is failing to uphold justice and fairness, people have to take things into their own hands, we can't sit back and condemn someone for an action that we've never had to take. Or a decision that we've never had to make.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699138]It might scare some people and probably won't stop a crime of passion, and I doubt that it'll stop a determined murderer. It might though, it's hard to say.[/QUOTE] It could help, Cali has the 3 strikes you're out thing, so hopefully people get the message, but it's obviously not gonna stop all murders of course.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699150]I understand that murder is wrong, but I'm also mature enough to know that sometimes it's necessary. Sometimes we have to do things that we don't like.[/QUOTE] WHY is it necessary?
[QUOTE=Lankist;19699168]WHY is it necessary?[/QUOTE] I edited and updated my post to answer that, sorry. If you can't imagine a situation where murder is acceptable, or necessary your imagination is the failing. Not my arguement.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19699149]A government's job is to enforce laws, not strike fear into the hearts of its people.[/QUOTE] It's not their job to enforce fear into people, but that law does that... It's only striking fear into criminals who may become worthy of the death penalty anyway, I don't see the negative side of that.
[QUOTE=AngryAsshole;19699178]I edited and updated my post to answer that, sorry.[/QUOTE] Not an answer. WHY is DEATH, specifically, necessary? Why not become a cop? Why not find a badge? Why not become a lawyer or a leader and actually TRY to seek justice legitimately? WHY is it necessary to strangle people to death?
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