• Customer Shoots Armed Robber at South Carolina Waffle Restaurant
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[QUOTE=Jake Nukem;34401318]Sounds to me you want the death penalty... [B]I'd honestly rather tens of thousands of dollars stolen than have even a criminal be put to death needlessly[/B]. And your logic is flawed, weapon facilitate an easier use of killing. To use your car analogy, A car is more likely to get a man killed than say a horse. Yet we still use cars, why? Because they are more efficient at what they do, transport. Just like a firearm is used to hurl a projectile at high speeds. Oh and just for clarification, Faze. Are those common robberies? Like purse snatching and stealing from shops while the store owners aren't looking? Or are they High-profile armed robberies?[/QUOTE] hahahahahahaha i can understand being against the death penalty after the fact but saying "HOW DARE HE NOT LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE BE ROBBED BLIND" is so fucking stupid
[QUOTE=GunFox;34403080]There are a few ways to utterly ruin any "African American" argument. My favorite being white South Africans. They (not the south african) either ultimately have to admit to not really being African American, or claim that the title is based on skin color, in which case the title of "Black" still applies. Other fun, and less hostile, means of turning the tables include pointing out that you don't actually know their ethnic origin and could, in fact, be from France, which would make the title of African American inherently insulting.[/QUOTE] Yeah, agreed. I mean, calling a black person African American in the USA is stupid if they're born here...if they're born here they are simply a black American. African American would be if they're born in, say, Nigeria and immigrate here and become a naturalized US Citizen. Same with Japanese American, German American and etc.
[QUOTE=faze;34403019] [url]http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/is-political-correctness-destroying-america/question-1293989/[/url] [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2663095/posts[/url] [url]http://wiseconservatism.com/2007/02/18/political-correctness-still-destroying-america/[/url] [url]http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=106265[/url] [url]http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/political-correctness-is-destroying-america[/url] [url]http://onecountryvoice.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/is-political-correctness-ruining-america/[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]Disneyland and Disneyworld cater to gays and lesbians..a place that is famous for catering to our children Traditional “marriage” under attack Press “1” for English…..[/quote] mmkay
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403209]mmkay[/QUOTE] I never said I agree with 100% of all of that but I was trying to convey what I was talking about.
[QUOTE=faze;34403222]I never said I agree with 100% of all of that but I was trying to convey what I was talking about.[/QUOTE] right so when asked how is it ruining the country, your words, the response is that. sounds like political correctness actually improved the country because it made sure that such utter stupidity is rightfully ignored and dismissed as crazy. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGAOCVwLrXo[/media]
[QUOTE=faze;34403019]How are you confused...? [editline]26th January 2012[/editline] [URL]http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/is-political-correctness-destroying-america/question-1293989/[/URL] [URL]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2663095/posts[/URL] [URL]http://wiseconservatism.com/2007/02/18/political-correctness-still-destroying-america/[/URL] [URL]http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=106265[/URL] [URL]http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/political-correctness-is-destroying-america[/URL] [URL]http://onecountryvoice.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/is-political-correctness-ruining-america/[/URL][/QUOTE] I dunno man it works pretty well here in canada
faze: society is ruined because I have to consider the feelings of black people when labelling them now, and that's why crimes like this occur. because society is ruined. gunfox: hey I'm totally neutral here but check out why "african american" is a dumb term. also, here is an admittedly hostile way of turning the tables on anyone who uses the term. not siding with faze or anything though faze: it's political correctness gone mad gunfox: woah this guy is bloody nuts I better leave
african american is a stupid term though
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34403453]african american is a stupid term though[/QUOTE] no more stupid than black. black people aren't even black in colour. and it makes sense considering we call people with german decent German-Americans.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403530]no more stupid than black. black people aren't even black in colour. and it makes sense considering we call people with german decent German-Americans.[/QUOTE] I have a flatmate who is black; not brown.
[QUOTE=Bawbag;34403559]I have a flatmate who is black; not brown.[/QUOTE] he reflects light. he's not coloured black.
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403530]no more stupid than black. black people aren't even black in colour. and it makes sense considering we call people with german decent German-Americans.[/QUOTE] african american implies the person is from africa and is currently an american do people call black people in the UK african-british/english? technically i'm of norweigan and austrian descent but i don't find it offense when nobody calls me "norweigan-american" or "austrian-american" it's just overly politically correct classifications that half of the time aren't even accurate
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403530]no more stupid than black. black people aren't even black in colour. and it makes sense considering we call people with german decent German-Americans.[/QUOTE] And we aren't really white. They are more and more wildly inaccurate given the wide variety of skin colors which exist. I would like to be done with the labels entirely, but as it stands in order to discuss the issue, terms need to exist.
on the subject or shoot to kill/shoot to incapacitate, my god father was in the German border police back in the days of West and East Germany, he was mostly stationed at airports and he always told me they were always trained and told to shoot to incapacitate and not shoot to kill.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34403453]african american is a stupid term though[/QUOTE] [release]For many, African American is more than a name expressive of cultural and historical roots. The term expresses pride in Africa and a sense of kinship and solidarity with others of the African diaspora—an embrace of pan-Africanism as earlier enunciated by prominent African thinkers such as Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois and George Padmore.[/release] I mean it's not like you can just look up the term and read about why it may be used by people who aren't literally African American
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403579]he reflects light. he's not coloured black.[/QUOTE] Which is good. Because otherwise the military would skin them and coat aircraft with them. Fuck you RADAR! Stealth-American!
[QUOTE=pieman12345;34403687]on the subject or shoot to kill/shoot to incapacitate, my god father was in the German border police back in the days of West and East Germany, he was mostly stationed at airports and he always told me they were always trained and told to shoot to incapacitate and not shoot to kill.[/QUOTE] That is very common training...
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403579]he reflects light. he's not coloured black.[/QUOTE] What I would call black:[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jRvgz_cD3Sg/TT62LG8LNsI/AAAAAAAABLM/2qiahVwqONE/s1600/Black-Man-Natural-Hair-Style-black.jpg[/img] What is brown: [img]http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg[/img] And then the people who claim to be black but aren't: [img]http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/717/434/8434717:jpeg_preview_large.jpg?20100725162631[/img]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34403695][release]For many, African American is more than a name expressive of cultural and historical roots. The term expresses pride in Africa and a sense of kinship and solidarity with others of the African diaspora—an embrace of pan-Africanism as earlier enunciated by prominent African thinkers such as Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois and George Padmore.[/release] I mean it's not like you can just look up the term and read about why it may be used by people who aren't literally African American[/QUOTE] psst not all dark skinned people are from africa and once again i'm not offended by people who don't call me norweigan-american, mostly because [B]i'm not from norway[/B]
[QUOTE=pieman12345;34403687]on the subject or shoot to kill/shoot to incapacitate, my god father was in the German border police back in the days of West and East Germany, he was mostly stationed at airports and he always told me they were always trained and told to shoot to incapacitate and not shoot to kill.[/QUOTE] You are trained to shoot to stop. Nobody trains people to anything else except for marksmen. Stopping a human being using bullets tends to also result in their death, though not always.
[QUOTE=The Vman;34396330]They teach you that when you're gonna shoot someone, you don't shoot to maim. You shoot to incapacitate. Besides, it's a life or death situation, he's starting to point a gun at you, no reason to hold back.[/QUOTE] It's preferred to aim at center mass
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34403664]african american implies the person is from africa and is currently an american[/QUOTE] no it implies african decent. making up your own implications doesn't work when words have their own definitions. [QUOTE=Kopimi;34403664]do people call black people in the UK african-british/english?[/QUOTE] yes, there's Caribbean British, African British, and other Black British. those are the official UK statistical names. [QUOTE=Kopimi;34403664]technically i'm of norweigan and austrian descent but i don't find it offense when nobody calls me "norweigan-american" or "austrian-american"[/QUOTE] okay so? [QUOTE=Kopimi;34403664]it's just overly politically correct classifications that half of the time aren't even accurate[/QUOTE] again i don't understand the political correctness part. i think we're confused political correctness with nomenclature. are black people trying to not offend themselves? i don't really get that. you know i think people should be allowed to decided for themselves what they want to be called. that's not really an issue for white americans to decide.
[QUOTE=faze;34402200]Exactly. Would you rather be hit with a fast moving baseball, or a slow moving train? That is the comparison between a 22 and a 45.[/QUOTE]A medium-speed trainball, please.[QUOTE=thisispain;34403004]uh cherokee refers to a specific group of native americans, not all native americans.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=faze;34402982]Yeah native American vs. Indian... I dunno, Cherokee [b]or etc[/b] is what I call them. They're basically individual nations if you think about it.[/QUOTE]I put the important part in bold.[QUOTE=GunFox;34403682]And we aren't really white. They are more and more wildly inaccurate given the wide variety of skin colors which exist. I would like to be done with the labels entirely, but as it stands in order to discuss the issue, terms need to exist.[/QUOTE]I've never actually seen the big problem with assigning colors to different ethnic groups. It's almost as if society is trying to pretend that we don't have different skin pigmentation and the hyphenated terms are it's efforts to bleach the shit out of everything. Once I went over to a friend's house, and his little sister spilled some grape juice on their new, and very white, couch. His mom flipped the fuck out and hysterically scrubbed, and every time the issue of color comes up I think of that time. No matter how we, as a society, try to make everything the same and uniform we will always be different. My take on it is, instead of trying to conform people into special titles, just call them what they are. I'm white, she's brown, he's black and we're all human.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34403756]psst not all dark skinned people are from africa and once again i'm not offended by people who don't call me norweigan-american, mostly because [B]i'm not from norway[/B][/QUOTE] So if someone wishes to identify with the African American community they should just knock it off because Kopimi doesn't wish to trifle with such a term?
[QUOTE=thisispain;34403792]no it implies african decent. making up your own implications doesn't work when words have their own definitions. yes, there's Caribbean British, African British, and other Black British. those are the official UK statistical names. okay so? again i don't understand the political correct part. i think we're confused political correctness with nomenclature. or are black people trying to not offend themselves. i don't really get that. you know i think people should be allowed to decided for themselves what they want to be called. [B]that's not really an issue for white americans to decide.[/B][/QUOTE] rest of the post is fair enough but i don't see why thinking "african american" is a useless term is a stupid term is somehow an issue specific to white americans?
[QUOTE=Bawbag;34403736]What I would call black:[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jRvgz_cD3Sg/TT62LG8LNsI/AAAAAAAABLM/2qiahVwqONE/s1600/Black-Man-Natural-Hair-Style-black.jpg[/img] What is brown: [img]http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] we're having an argument about semantics so surely you must understand why they are both coloured with brown shades. i mean if you were to paint or draw the first person you wouldn't use black paint for his skin (unless you are a terrible artist)
[QUOTE=Jake Nukem;34398427]Personally, I don't see this as a good thing. A 19 year old had to die because some guy wanted to be a hero and save someone a few dollars. Chances are no one was gonna get hurt if he left well enough alone. I'm sure you could say it was the guys own fault for doing it but you don't know what his financial situation was, or if he actually needed the money or not(neither can I for that matter, but still).[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter what his situations was, he attempted an armed robbery. If you shove a gun in someone's face, you'd be fucking retarded not expect to be met with deadly force. Also, I don't see the logic in leaving things to "chance"; sure, he might have not hurt anyone, but the keyword is might. He had a gun pointed at people and I think it's safe to say he was willing to use it.
We aren't having an argument. You claimed black people aren't black, and I just showed you what I consider black.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;34403831]rest of the post is fair enough but i don't see why thinking "african american" is a useless term is a stupid term is somehow an issue specific to white americans?[/QUOTE] no it's just inconsequential. if every single black person decided to call themselves african-american, you saying it's stupid would be utterly inconsequential. it's like if i called myself english and you'd say that's really stupid the word english doesn't make any sense. and it doesn't, england roughly translates to land of the angels.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34403799]So if someone wishes to identify with the African American community they should just knock it off because Kopimi doesn't wish to trifle with such a term?[/QUOTE]What if you call an Aboriginal Australian an African American because you've assumed that, being dark, they [i]must[/i] be from some African place. Everyone knows all the dark folks are from Africa.
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