Red Cross Wants Video Games To Obey Geneva Conventions
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Breaking News: Tarn 'Toady1' Adams jailed for holocaust simulator 'Dwarf Fortress', where kittens, puppies and elves are ruthlessly butchered by players with traps that involve starving the poor creatures for months, before melting their flesh off with magma.
And that's nowhere near as bad as the old mermaid farming methods...
This is so stupid.
Because it's not like Movies, TV, books even music do the same fucking thing.
The Red Cross can be feeling like it has possibility but in reality it doesn't, besides its too hard to police let alone to introduce.
So would this make Medics be permanently invincible or something?
I'm going to blame Modern Warfare for this, they've done this with all three games, the nuke, airport scene in 2, and the biological weapons in 3. That last one is probably the main cause considering how the game shows a little girl getting killed by it and its still one of the biggest released games of the year (I hate the gameplay, but sales don't lie) , but the first two are pretty big. Sure this happens in many games but MW always gets lots of media on these kinds of scenes.
[QUOTE=Dwarfy77;33565773]I'm going to blame Modern Warfare for this, they've done this with all three games, the nuke, airport scene in 2, and the biological weapons in 3. That last one is probably the main cause considering how the game shows a little girl getting killed by it and its still one of the biggest released games of the year (I hate the gameplay, but sales don't lie) , but the first two are pretty big. Sure this happens in many games but MW always gets lots of media on these kinds of scenes.[/QUOTE]
I blame the Red Cross for this because a video game should be allowed to include scenes like that. It's a video game.
Medic in tf2 becomes infinitely more OP.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33563480]If an AI shoots an innocent, imprison him.[/QUOTE]
death sentence
[QUOTE=Untouch;33565870]Medic in tf2 becomes infinitely more OP.[/QUOTE]
also, pyro and demoman are removed completely.
[QUOTE=STeel;33565857]I blame the Red Cross for this because a video game should be allowed to include scenes like that. It's a video game.[/QUOTE]
I know, it's incredibly stupid, but those scenes have the two things that are needed to make it the cause of this, the violation of the laws that should only apply to real life, and mass media coverage.
Its an interesting concept really, on one hand video games would be an ideal point to educate people about things like this.
On the other (and more important imo) hand, its a [B]fucking video game[/B]. Anyone who struggles to tell the difference between a virtual fantasy world and the real world will probably never be in a situation where they need to follow the Geneva convention. They would need to apply this to books and films as well surely. Not to mention this would ruin any sort of story telling that a game tries to do, not all characters are perfect.
[QUOTE=Untouch;33565870]Medic in tf2 becomes infinitely more OP.[/QUOTE]
Next TF2 patch:
- New Medic Weapon: Red Cross, heals 100 HP per second
Ahahah what? Like real combat even follows the geneva conventions.
Heh, this somehow reminds me of
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTkgi7scKo[/media]
"The most authentic and true to life FPS of all time, 10/10!" - Red Cross Gaming
A lot of countries right now don't follow the Geneva Conventions why the fuck should my game?
Yeah, I totally agree that videogames shouldn't be allowed to use actual nukes on actual people, just like anyone else.
Wow that's fuckin' stupid.
Maybe turn your attention to the hundreds and thousands (and millions?) of atrocities going on right in front of your eyes before you try and go all virtual.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;33565066]Breaking News: Tarn 'Toady1' Adams jailed for holocaust simulator 'Dwarf Fortress', where kittens, puppies and elves are ruthlessly butchered by players with traps that involve starving the poor creatures for months, before melting their flesh off with magma.
And that's nowhere near as bad as the old mermaid farming methods...[/QUOTE]
Did somebody say DORF FORTRESS?
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Yeah, that's gonna get some animal rights activists/video game censorship proponents riled up.
This made my day. I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud in front of a screen.
[QUOTE=That Poster;33567045]Did somebody say DORF FORTRESS?
Yeah, that's gonna get some animal rights activists/video game censorship proponents riled up.[/QUOTE]
I get a sneaking suspicion that us Dwarf Fortress types aren't normal, even by violent, war-criminal standards.
(also, I'm still hoping for Toady to add blood as a liquid, so that I can try an elven blood moat)
I'm part of the Red Cross and even I think this is stupid. The reason the ICRC sues organisations or discusses silly things like this is because the Red Cross is trying to protect the symbol and the protection than the Red Cross has been afforded the past few decades.
The worry is that people are affected by media, such as video games. While you make think it's ridiculous, there is a lot of truth in it. 60 years ago, people were a lot less willing to kill than they are today. These days people are much more willing to kill, and yet, much less willing to follow orders. We don't want to drive onto a battle field and get targeted because someone has become apathetic or has received mixed messages about what the red cross/crescent/crystal on our vehicles represents.
That's why the Red Cross will sue a company for making the cross symbol on their bandages red, instead of say, green or blue. Because the red cross is a protected symbol.
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The worry is that people are affected by media, such as video games. While you make think it's ridiculous, there is a lot of truth in it. 60 years ago, people were a lot less willing to kill than they are today. These days people are much more willing to kill, and yet, much less willing to follow orders. We don't want to drive onto a battle field and get targeted because someone has become apathetic or has received mixed messages about what the red cross/crescent/crystal on our vehicles represents.
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Source? I have a hard time believing videogames cause people to attack red cross more or anything.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;33565431]So would this make Medics be permanently invincible or something?[/QUOTE]
Imagine Battlefield 3. Everyone would play as assault with medkits and defibrillators and the game would never end.
[QUOTE=Dwarfy77;33565945]I know, it's incredibly stupid, but those scenes have the two things that are needed to make it the cause of this, the violation of the laws that should only apply to real life, and mass media coverage.[/QUOTE]
There are tons of very ugly scenes in video games. Splinter Cell Double Agent had you bombing a boat full of innocents.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;33568012]60 years ago, people were a lot less willing to kill than they are today.[/QUOTE]
Not really. It's just that we know more about the psychos in our world now because we live in a connected world and we know every little detail of what happens around the world, compared to way back when where people were, for the most part, isolated from each other so they didn't really know (or care) about what's been happening in the world, or sometimes even a neighboring state/province.
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;33568612]Not really. It's just that we know more about the psychos in our world now because we live in a connected world and we know every little detail of what happens around the world, compared to way back when where people were, for the most part, isolated from each other so they didn't really know (or care) about what's been happening in the world, or sometimes even a neighboring state/province.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that many more murder cases went unsolved due to a total lack of evidence, which DNA testing and modern forensic methods have helped to reduce dramataically.
We can just communicate worldwide easily and quickly.
[b]Get our government to obey the Geneva conventions[/b] and we'll try to take you a little more seriously.
This is absolutely absurd. It's not like the committing of war crimes has never been a plot point or anything. They may as well do the same for literature and film.
[QUOTE=Jack_Thompson;33568819]This is absolutely absurd. It's not like the committing of war crimes has never been a plot point or anything. They may as well do the same for literature and film.[/QUOTE]
But that would involve getting rid of books, and the instant someone is capable of comparing you to a Nazi is the moment you lose all credibility.
End of space marines I guess.
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