Judge Vinson maintains Healthcare law Unconstitutional. Gives Obama 7 days to appeal.
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[QUOTE=Mudbone;28415340]Its another case of the kids telling the adults what the rules should be. In the end the adults win.[/QUOTE]
Its another case of the spectator guy telling the posters that what they are saying is useless. In the end the posters win.
[QUOTE=Strider*;28414122]And it begins with healthcare, what do you suppose is next?
The government grows exponentially while we sit idly with some of us even defending and nurturing its growth.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Strider, don't sit idly by while the healthcare system is mildly changed! Stand against this tyranny of slightly fixing some problems in the healthcare system.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415328]Glaber, I could tell you something and if it didn't fit with how you see the world, you'd reject it instantly then act like you're being persecuted for not believing in it.[/QUOTE]
Because it's like a brick wall banging it self on another brick wall that's banging it self against the first.
Plus, you act as if All conservative ideas are bad or evil, and I do similar to liberal ideas.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;28414552]
Not only that but these nations with the exception of Canada, have massive taxes to pay for their systems due to having popular Monarchies to pacify the peasants from rebelling[/QUOTE]
What century are you fucking in?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28415288]It isn't even unconstitutional in the first place.[/QUOTE]
It is
[QUOTE=Broseph_;28415377]It is[/QUOTE]
Explain to me, broseph, how something constitutional is unconstitutional.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415368]Because it's like a brick wall banging it self on another brick wall that's banging it self against the first.[/QUOTE]
Sounds pornographic.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415368]Because it's like a brick wall banging it self on another brick wall that's banging it self against the first.[/QUOTE]
I've changed probably 20 opinions in the last year because of debates on this site. You've what? Mildly started to accept that gays don't deserve to be killed?
[QUOTE=Broseph_;28414591]Meanwhile when does the absolute need to insure 36 million Americans (many of which I suspect didn't have it out of choice rather than unaffordability), suddenly give the government the right to walk in and force me to buy insurance or pay a fine that's about a thousand times less than any insurance premium for simply being a citizen?[/QUOTE]
Yes, 36 million humans are always healthy. the US healthcare system is perfect and these people, all of them, can have perfect healthcare plans willy nilly.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415296]That's not proof. That's an Opinion not backed up with any sources.[/QUOTE]
I think the European Union and Canada are big enough pieces of evidence to elevate it from "Opinion" to "Fact."
(actually you're insane, broseph)
I mean, for fucks sakes glaber, I've told you before, the ONLY thing that's really wrong in life is to settle on opinions which is what you do. I'd rather be wrong and transient than "right" and unchanging. Though, you're a conservative, that's what you believe in.
[QUOTE=Strider*;28414915]I doubt that claim, but I'll consider it.
In the United States the government accounts for only a small amount (less than 5%) of the drugs currently in production on the market the free profit driven medical industry accounts for the rest.
Keep in mind much of the world relies on the drugs invented and produced in the United States.
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Beautiful.[/QUOTE]
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Beautiful.
[sp]Fun fact. Last picture is from a collapsed bridge in Shanghai. They found it was built with concrete and garbage.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Strider*;28414680][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJgkvF19QA[/media]
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[editline]4th March 2011[/editline]
Fair enough.[/QUOTE]
Did you seriously use Stephen fucking Crowder as a source?
Are you fucking retarded? Crowder has twisted facts and outright lied in MOST of his videos.
And John Stossel? The guy who compared obamacare to giving away free groceries to poor people, which in his mind, equals out to lazy people.
You are a fucking piece of work, the only thing worse is Glaber. Which you're pretty close to.
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Plus, you act as if All conservative ideas are bad or evil, and I do similar to liberal ideas.[/QUOTE]
Uhh, yeah, a majority of them only appeal to the interests of a select few whilst liberal ideas appeal to the interests of more people.
That and most conservative ideas are retarded if placed in light.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415404]I mean, for fucks sakes glaber, I've told you before, the ONLY thing that's really wrong in life is to settle on opinions which is what you do. I'd rather be wrong and transient than "right" and unchanging. Though, you're a conservative, that's what you believe in.[/QUOTE]
I used to think that gun bans were a good idea but I don't think that anymore
Progressivism is fantastic
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415404]I mean, for fucks sakes glaber, I've told you before, the ONLY thing that's really wrong in life is to settle on opinions which is what you do. I'd rather be wrong and transient than "right" and unchanging. Though, you're a conservative, that's what you believe in.[/QUOTE]
[quote=wikipedia]
Conservatism (Latin: conservare, "to preserve") is a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society.
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Yeah, conservatism is pretty much about being a stubborn bitch.
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Beautiful.
[sp]Fun fact. Last picture is from a collapsed bridge in Shanghai. They found it was built with concrete and garbage.[/sp][/QUOTE]
You just gave him shit to throw at us now, irreleavent shit about how pure capitalism never resorts to that and would never come to that, but still. Now he's going to think that that's proof of how "communist" china is so shitty and why socialism of all sorts is evil.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415434]You just gave him shit to throw at us now, irreleavent shit about how pure capitalism never resorts to that and would never come to that, but still. Now he's going to think that that's proof of how "communist" china is so shitty and why socialism of all sorts is evil.[/QUOTE]
Probably won't be that hard to find similar photos taken in America (maybe not the bridge filled with newspaper)
Just show him pictures of new jersey and slums of Detroit and Chicago.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28415439]Probably won't be that hard to find similar photos taken in America (maybe not the bridge filled with newspaper)[/QUOTE]
Nah, america is awesome and doesn't do stuff like that
though it's fading from it's golden glowing light of capitalism and embracing suffocating and scary socialist reform to strip us all of our humanity and rights and what not, dontcha know
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415386]I've changed probably 20 opinions in the last year because of debates on this site. You've what? Mildly started to accept that gays don't deserve to be killed?[/QUOTE]
Is one of them about killing unborn kids?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28415439]Probably won't be that hard to find similar photos taken in America (maybe not the bridge filled with newspaper)[/QUOTE]
People always yell about how 'capitalism' is great and everyone should do it. Hurr. It's just as bad as a communist one.
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415451]Is one of them about killing unborn kids?[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415451]Is one of them about killing unborn kids?[/QUOTE]
Don't start the abortion debate. I believe in a womans choice, you believe a sperm cell and an egg cell make a human being on conception, in a process I'm sure you don't really understand.
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Beautiful.
[sp]Fun fact. Last picture is from a collapsed bridge in Shanghai. They found it was built with concrete and garbage.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Uh yeah I agree brother, I did say China was a shit hole.
But not one of those is a picture of Hong Kong where the economy is actually free and private property is cared for.
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[QUOTE=Strider*;28415456]Uh yeah I agree brother, I did say China was a shit hole.
But not one of those is a picture of Hong Kong where the economy is actually free and private property is cared for.
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You do realize... china is communist only by name anyways? has been for like, 15 years at least...
[QUOTE=Glaber;28415451]Is one of them about killing unborn kids?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade#Justiciability[/url]
Shut up and drop it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28415466]You do realize... china is communist only by name anyways? has been for like, 15 years at least...[/QUOTE]
I never said anything about communism.
You're missing the point that Hong Kong is currently the freest economy in the world and one of the fastest advancing areas.
Look at that skyline man.
so what's the penalty for violating the individual mandate anyhow
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