Ok if we can establish a ban duration then: if Le Pen wins, ban me for the whole 5 years of her mandat. :toxx:
[QUOTE=pedrus24;52148932]Ok if we can establish a ban duration then: if Le Pen wins, ban me for the whole 5 years of her mandat. :toxx:[/QUOTE]Dude I cba to remember to unban you :v
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Perma or nothing folks, don't be wimps
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;52148962]Dude I cba to remember to unban you :v
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
Perma or nothing folks, don't be wimps[/QUOTE]
Just a reminder: Newpunch is a fresh start for all accounts when it rolls out apparently so even if it took another year for arriving it wouldn't matter much anyway
Welp, perma me then.
If what Zonesylvania says is true then good for me.
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May 8th: Garry Announces Newpunch to be Cancelled
Actually just to counter-toxx you for fun and to put my account where my mouth is.
:toxx: Le Pen will not become president of France, and if she does, permaban me until I physically go to France and record myself apologizing to the Eiffel Tower for trying to trap France within the (((globalist))) NWO. :toxx:
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:toxx: I'll do 3 shots of vodka (for each word of MLP's name) while snacking it with baguette if Marie Le Pen wins this election, and film all of it on a camera. :toxx:
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[QUOTE=_Axel;52149382][img]http://i.imgur.com/2onC7t0.png[/img]
:what:[/QUOTE]
I think Le Pen voters moving to abstain is weirder.
[QUOTE=Vlevs;52149422]I think Le Pen voters moving to abstain is weirder.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they voted FN in the first round to "send a message".
Toxx my shit up. Ban If Le Pen wins. Escape: ill record myself doing a shot of vodka for every point that she won by.
[editline]25th April 2017[/editline]
I'll round up*
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[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;52149194]:toxx: I'll do 3 shots of vodka (for each word of MLP's name) while snacking it with baguette if Marie Le Pen wins this election, and film all of it on a camera. :toxx:
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Also - Le Pen counts as 2 words.
So, 15 shots (Marion Anne Perrine Le Pen)
Toxxing this election is a terrible idea.
I want in.
[QUOTE=Rufia;52148484]txt[/QUOTE]
I want to clarify my point, because by writing posts right before going to bed I might have poorly explained it.
1) No, I will never ever vote for Le Pen.
2) As of right now, I have nothing that makes me want to vote Macron. But I'm open to hear what he has to say during theses 2 weeks. A lot of Melanchon voters think about not voting, and that's putting Macron in a tight position, because if 20% straight up don't play, well the margin between the two will get really uncomfortable. What I'm going with this is that I fight for something I believe in, and if Macron want my vote he better start to negotiate. I'm not even asking for much, just for him to understand that he doesn't have everyone behind him, and that if he want to fight extremism he better start working on uniting everyone against MLP. That's his job to convince me, not mine to follow like a sheep. It's not enough to yell EXTREMISM EXTREMISM just like it's not enough to yell TERRORISM TERRORISM. Give me something to chew on, and I'm on board.
But it doesn't look like he's understanding that yet... Melanchon didn't officially asked to vote against Le Pen, and actually he didn't say anything about what to do on the 2nd turn. You know why? Because there's a poll right now on his website to see what everyone thinks about that. We don't follow a leader, we follow an idea, and that's true democracy. What did Macron said about that? That we "deserve a better leader". :goodjob:
I'm not ruling out voting for him, but the more vocal I am that I won't bend over for free, the greater the chances there are that he'll actually consider our voice as a legitimate force he has to deal with.
He still has two weeks to go. But right now, no way.
TLDR : 2 dicks want to fuck me but only one can get in my ass. One has barbwire on it and if I don't choose, it might beat the other. I don't want to be fucked, but I might be more open to the idea if the 2nd one uses lube.
Don't forget that we have the legislatives in about a month. Macron needs a majority there if he wants to be able to govern properly.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52150000]Don't forget that we have the legislatives in about a month. Macron needs a majority there if he wants to be able to govern properly.[/QUOTE]
Who's his majority really, he's an independent. Will he compromise between the left and right parties?
[QUOTE=_Axel;52149441]Maybe they voted FN in the first round to "send a message".[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what i did.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52148374]I thought I'd toxx a macron win but then I realized that that'd be lame as hell since I'd basically be toxxing that water is wet[/QUOTE]
Tell that to the dozen posters that toxxed Clinton
[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52150334]Tell that to the dozen posters that toxxed Clinton[/QUOTE]
rest in peace smurfy
[QUOTE=NapyDaWise;52149961]I want to clarify my point, because by writing posts right before going to bed I might have poorly explained it.
1) No, I will never ever vote for Le Pen.
2) As of right now, I have nothing that makes me want to vote Macron. But I'm open to hear what he has to say during theses 2 weeks. A lot of Melanchon voters think about not voting, and that's putting Macron in a tight position, because if 20% straight up don't play, well the margin between the two will get really uncomfortable. What I'm going with this is that I fight for something I believe in, and if Macron want my vote he better start to negotiate. I'm not even asking for much, just for him to understand that he doesn't have everyone behind him, and that if he want to fight extremism he better start working on uniting everyone against MLP. That's his job to convince me, not mine to follow like a sheep. It's not enough to yell EXTREMISM EXTREMISM just like it's not enough to yell TERRORISM TERRORISM. Give me something to chew on, and I'm on board.
But it doesn't look like he's understanding that yet... Melanchon didn't officially asked to vote against Le Pen, and actually he didn't say anything about what to do on the 2nd turn. You know why? Because there's a poll right now on his website to see what everyone thinks about that. We don't follow a leader, we follow an idea, and that's true democracy. What did Macron said about that? That we "deserve a better leader". :goodjob:
I'm not ruling out voting for him, but the more vocal I am that I won't bend over for free, the greater the chances there are that he'll actually consider our voice as a legitimate force he has to deal with.
He still has two weeks to go. But right now, no way.
TLDR : 2 dicks want to fuck me but only one can get in my ass. One has barbwire on it and if I don't choose, it might beat the other. I don't want to be fucked, but I might be more open to the idea if the 2nd one uses lube.[/QUOTE]
You can always fight for what you believe in, and you have the freedom to choose who to vote for or not to vote at all. You don't have to take mine or anyone else's advice, we're just giving our two cents on what would be the wise thing to do in your position.
And my advice is that it will be easier to try to keep Macron in line than to try to resist Le Pen and her rabid followers. To the best of my observations, Macron has a better sense of diplomacy and will be more open to compromise with the left wing. So if he wins and tries to fuck you over, he will be more willing to turn back on it if you take to the streets in protest. Le Pen will probably not give two shits and a fuck about your concerns, and if she really fucks up she will only step down to save her own ass at the last moment, but not before leaving your country in a terrible state.
After Hollande's catastrophe of a presidential term it would be obvious that socialism would remain unpopular for a while. You need time to rebuild that support and trust. Macron can buy you that time, but Le Pen will throw you into a hurry. Work with what you got then try harder next time.
[QUOTE=UnknownDude;52150433]You can always fight for what you believe in, and you have the freedom to choose who to vote for or not to vote at all. You don't have to take mine or anyone else's advice, we're just giving our two cents on what would be the wise thing to do in your position.
And my advice is that it will be easier to try to keep Macron in line than to try to resist Le Pen and her rabid followers. To the best of my observations, Macron has a better sense of diplomacy and will be more open to compromise with the left wing. So if he wins and tries to fuck you over, he will be more willing to turn back on it if you take to the streets in protest. Le Pen will probably not give two shits and a fuck about your concerns, and if she really fucks up she will only step down to save her own ass at the last moment, but not before leaving your country in a terrible state.
After Hollande's catastrophe of a presidential term it would be obvious that socialism would remain unpopular for a while. You need time to rebuild that support and trust. Macron can buy you that time, but Le Pen will throw you into a hurry. Work with what you got then try harder next time.[/QUOTE]
I find it more likely that Macron "stole" votes from the socialist candidates by getting the more moderate socialist voters voting on him rather than the SP candidate. If Macron didn't run, I could see a socialist candidate, most likely Mélenchon getting to the second round.
Don't mean to seem rude or impertinent but I genuinely don't understand how people in western democracies can still choose to abstain from Democracy in a post-Brexit, post-Trump world. The latter was so bad that the mods had to create an [I]entirely new section of FP[/I] because the amount of (almost exclusively negative) articles about Trump were keeping other news topics from being seen. Look to your peers and see what their conscientious objection brought them, then roll your eyes and vote Macron. Le Pen would be a disaster for France if she gets her way.
[QUOTE=RB33;52150500]I find it more likely that Macron "stole" votes from the socialist candidates by getting the more moderate socialist voters voting on him rather than the SP candidate. If Macron didn't run, I could see a socialist candidate, most likely Mélenchon getting to the second round.[/QUOTE]
Praise the lord for Macron then if it was a fight between Melenchon or Le Pen lol.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52151140]Don't mean to seem rude or impertinent but I genuinely don't understand how people in western democracies can still choose to abstain from Democracy in a post-Brexit, post-Trump world. The latter was so bad that the mods had to create an [I]entirely new section of FP[/I] because the amount of (almost exclusively negative) articles about Trump were keeping other news topics from being seen. Look to your peers and see what their conscientious objection brought them, then roll your eyes and vote Macron. Le Pen would be a disaster for France if she gets her way.[/QUOTE]
Really comes down to whether you think you're complicit in something you didn't cause, but could have prevented.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52151140]Don't mean to seem rude or impertinent but I genuinely don't understand how people in western democracies can still choose to abstain from Democracy in a post-Brexit, post-Trump world. The latter was so bad that the mods had to create an [I]entirely new section of FP[/I] because the amount of (almost exclusively negative) articles about Trump were keeping other news topics from being seen. Look to your peers and see what their conscientious objection brought them, then roll your eyes and vote Macron. Le Pen would be a disaster for France if she gets her way.[/QUOTE]
Because the big difference with Trump or brexit is that the vote already happened. We know how people will vote, and we know how they'll vote on the second turn. It's not a poll, it's actual results from an actual election. The only true unknown right now are us, Melanchon voters. You can be sure that we won't boost MLP's ranks en masse, but even if we did Macron would still win, as he has the backing of everyone else. We know how things ends because we can extrapolate from the results.
If it was theses two on a one turn election yeah I sure as hell would have voted Macron.
I'm kind of disappointed by Macron's campaign (or rather lack thereof) these last few days. Marine's going full Trump with contradictory statements to grasp as large an electorate as possible, and all he has to say is basically "the FN is bad lol".
When you look at the socio-economic class of FN voters and those who plan to abstain, it's not rocket science to figure out what to do to appeal to these demographics.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52151844]I'm kind of disappointed by Macron's campaign (or rather lack thereof) these last few days. Marine's going full Trump with contradictory statements to grasp as large an electorate as possible[/QUOTE]
By all means I think Macron is well ahead of Marine in terms of two-faced rethorics. This constant dichotomy has been his one and only campaign strategy.
This does not ammount to say that they're two sides of the same coin. There is a clear cut line behind the candidate of class disdain and the candidate of identity disdain.
Still there is something in me that itches to see the little assuming fuck fall from cloud nine. And I can feel this little something itch within each frenchman that did not vote for macron in turn one. I'm on a mission to disprove the macronist saying that a blank vote is a vote against macron: abstention must first and foremost be preached to those who intend to vote Le Pen in turn 2.
[QUOTE=Scarabix;52152001]By all means I think Macron is well ahead of Marine in terms of two-faced rethorics. This constant dichotomy has been his one and only campaign strategy.[/QUOTE]
I mean when she says she feels "European" all of a sudden it's hard to top this amount of bullshitting.
[QUOTE=NapyDaWise;52145594]I trust my country to actually revolt if Le Pen wins. She won't have 50% of the country behind her like Trump, only 22.
I refuse to vote for someone like Macron that can't even properly express what he want for the country. I mean, the joke I heard a lot during this election is that if Macron pass the 1st turn, he'll tell us about one of his policy as a reward. There was a poll that I can't seem to find right now, which showed that around 80% of the voters of each candidate voted for his/her program, while for Macron it was only around 23%.
The only way we can send a message is by not voting, as much as I don't like it. Also, it's not like he needs my vote to win, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Which would allow Le Pen an excuse to turn legit Fascist, seize absolute power and cleanse France of all its "vermin".
To me antifa isn't exactly helping any one these days. What is with that? From what I am reading they re trying to start a revolution now.
Which is a joke considering their attempt to smash capitalism is sponsored by Kellogg's and throw violent fits when their preferred crony capitalist doesn't win office.
To me everything points to them being manipulated by capitalists who want to bring forth a fascist state or are doing everything they can to ensure a fascist state comes in to being.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;52155312]From what I am reading they re trying to start a revolution now.
Which is a joke considering their attempt to smash capitalism is sponsored by Kellogg's and throw violent fits when their preferred crony capitalist doesn't win office.
To me everything points to them being manipulated by capitalists who want to bring forth a fascist state or are doing everything they can to ensure a fascist state comes in to being.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck have you been reading?
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