American McGee's Sister has Gone Missing After Recieving Death Threats From Anti-Gamergaters
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49254391]This is basically exactly what I'm talking about, though.
"My group is mostly right and just! We have a few bad eggs, sure, but not nearly as many as those other guys. They just have no integrity!"
Like, I guarantee the exact same thing is being said on the other side of the fence. "Tribalistic" is exactly the word I would use to describe both general camps, as an outsider who has no real stake or interest in all this silliness. I mean, here we are with a woman missing, possibly dead, with what appears to be an exceedingly creeper stalker involved, and we're still somehow making this about Gamergate and SJWs.[/QUOTE]
I think you're missing the crux of the point. Our main argument isn't based on everyone on the other side being worse, being harrasers, being misogynists, for some grand "get the hateful people out of the industry". It's about corruption we've uncovered and the defense of that corruption which has utilized an easily manipulated "SJW" group to it's benefit, and also allowed widespread censorship to take place. The easiest way to counter a group like that is to prove the facade, which is pretty trivial at this point. We dont need to prove that they have more bad eggs than us, or that they have no integrity (though we have anyway).
[quote]When they accuse us of being pedophiles with pedophile websites, the easiest way to respond is to point out their disproportionately higher issue with pedophiles, who they actively defend. They accuse us of all being white male neckbeards, we have #notyourshield and they call them all uncle toms or sockpuppets. We get accused of being harrassers, we get statistics to prove that harrassment from progg accounts makes up a tiny portion of what gets lobbed at us. All our websites get ddos'd(even facepunch got hit for a few days), registrars, death threats, goading suicide, its all in much higher proportion from the same people who claim to want to stop harrassment and promote equality. It undermines their core argument, our core argument is untouched even if some of our dudes are massive assholes (and i assure you, some are). Even if they weren't doing it all "more", if you don't trust the statistics, it's all just icing on top of how ridiculous it is. They're still doing all of these things despite the talking points espousing their immunity.[/quote]
I dont think this discussion is undermining the seriousness of the OP much, there isnt much to say but here we all hope everyone involved is fine and it's just some misunderstanding. There's probably [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1475810"]a better place for it[/URL], if you want, though. I was just responding to something i disagreed with in a vacuum.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49244401]however the entire "war" has just been people using video games to further their own agendas.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. Whatever it started out as (and I know what it started out as, I was at ground fuckin zero for the whole starting endeavor), it's now just a banner of misinformation that anyone can wave around, sort of like "Anonymous" but in this case people can pick sides. It's like the Cold War but much, much dumber.
Really feel for Sister McGee, not only is her life possibly at risk but it's at risk for a really stupid fucking reason that nobody can really pin down because nobody on either side of GG knows what the fuck is going on, and they'll be happier to bicker about their phony-ass politics than to genuinely care about someone who got kidnapped.
agg/gg is pathetic as fuck lmao
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49254391]This is basically what I'm talking about, though.
"My group is mostly right and just! We have a few bad eggs, sure, but not nearly as many as those other guys. They just have no integrity!"[/QUOTE]
I mean.
From the outside looking in, both sides are nutty at times but you really, REALLY need to be stretching to actually think that the GG side is anywhere close to being as bad as the AGG side.
Like, you know, defending confirmed pedophiles en masse simply because said pedophile agrees with them, and blaming it on the other side even though it had nothing to do with it beforehand.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49254391]I guarantee the exact same thing is being said on the other side of the fence. "Tribalistic" is exactly the word I would use to describe both general camps, as an outsider who has no real stake or interest in all this silliness. I mean, here we are with a woman missing, possibly dead, and we're still somehow making this about Gamergate and anti-Gamergate and SJWs. Does it really fucking matter if the stalker supports your views on ethical game journalism or not? I mean, this person presumably kidnapped a woman. Clearly fucking bonkers regardless of personal politics.[/QUOTE]
I uh.
Dont wanna be that guy but, i think everyone was pretty much done with it until you brought it up again.
[editline]5th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=.Lain;49254775]agg/gg is pathetic as fuck lmao[/QUOTE]
Thank you for that helpful bit of insight that was completely worth everybodies time and attention. I commend you on spending all of 10 seconds typing that all out and posting it, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation at hand.
Heres a tip, friend, you dont need to fish for zings anymore, they dont exist here.
Is this even about GamerGate? I remember the pedophile thread where people tried to bring that shit in.
If its not, I feel like the thread title should be changed to reflect that. The person being anti-GG doesn't make it a GamerGate issue.
[QUOTE=Domokun;49254851]Is this even about GamerGate? I remember the pedophile thread where people tried to bring that shit in.
If its not, I feel like the thread title should be changed to reflect that. The person being anti-GG doesn't make it a GamerGate issue.[/QUOTE]
the threats being over gamergate related stuff makes the title appropriate, i think.
[QUOTE=Domokun;49254851]Is this even about GamerGate? I remember the pedophile thread where people tried to bring that shit in.
If its not, I feel like the thread title should be changed to reflect that. The person being anti-GG doesn't make it a GamerGate issue.[/QUOTE]
I think the fact that users in that thread defended a child molestor to stand against GG kinda matters.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49255022]those people were shitty users and are mostly banned now anyway
dunno why both sides feel the absolute need to shadowbox and win those internet argument points
you cant even cash them in for cool prizes[/QUOTE]
The point is it was more than just those shitty users, anti gg in large defended pedobutts.
I don't really care if people dismiss both sides as shit, because even that perception is a massive improvement over anything you'll see on the media.
When the threads were popping up over this story, it was proposed that we spread awareness of the issue independent of GG. I'd have to agree. I'm just not comfortable with anyone weaponizing this poor woman's status.
Can we PLEASE get back on topic? There's a thread for this shit and this isn't it. Regardless of political affiliations or personal beliefs, this should not have happened. Regardless of what "camp" the person belongs to, this is fucked up.
Hope she is found safe....however unlikely that may be.
Yeah this thread has nothing to do with pedophilia. Please stop posting.
Does anyone have a large res image, or is able to sum up the 4chan post shared earlier about the "[I]real[/I] reason why the authorities aren't helping? All rumors, but I can't read the green text on there ;-;
Hmm, I'm not sure I'd put much stock into that. I also do not follow the "Wearing an expression I think we're all familiar with." regarding this picture?
[img]http://puu.sh/lKW5t/1b7eeeb6a6.jpg[/img]
People who seem to willfully ignore the entire aGG/GG issue come across to me as hugely obnoxious and ignorant, considering most of them miss the point of Gamergate fight entirely.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49256016]People who seem to willfully ignore the entire aGG/GG issue come across to me as hugely obnoxious and ignorant, considering most of them miss the point of Gamergate fight entirely.[/QUOTE]
YEAH SO ANYWAY ABOUT THE MISSING PERSONS CASE--
Whenever Someone anti-gamergate gets death threats: "Haha proffessional victims"
Whenever someone pro gamergate gets death threats: "Wow, antigamergate is awful, good thing we don't do that"
Double standards and confirmation bias is through the roofs
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49256482]Whenever Someone anti-gamergate gets death threats: "Haha proffessional victims"
Whenever someone pro gamergate gets death threats: "Wow, antigamergate is awful, good thing we don't do that"
Double standards and confirmation bias is through the roofs[/QUOTE]
Gee dude great post.
In the couple pages of discussion about this, was there *anything* there that remotely resembled that? Speaking of confirmation bias...
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49256016]People who seem to willfully ignore the entire aGG/GG issue come across to me as hugely obnoxious and ignorant, considering most of them miss the point of Gamergate fight entirely.[/QUOTE]
I care more about getting rent paid on time then video games or anything related to it. Seeing there is now a possible body count related to GG, I'm definitely not getting involved any time soon.
Why would ensuring self preservation by avoiding internet drama be considered obnoxious or ignorant?
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49256482]Whenever Someone anti-gamergate gets death threats: "Haha proffessional victims"
Whenever someone pro gamergate gets death threats: "Wow, antigamergate is awful, good thing we don't do that"
Double standards and confirmation bias is through the roofs[/QUOTE]
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HEY SO ABOUT THAT MISSING PERSONS CASE--[/b]
I can understand the police telling people to stay calm and wait a bit after someone's gone missing for not even a day. But if they're telling their family to just wait and tell them she'll probably pop up somewhere after the person has been missing for [b]three weeks[/b], the police just isn't doing its job. Especially when you have credible leads like that guy sending disturbing threats.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;49256615][b]
HEY SO ABOUT THAT MISSING PERSONS CASE--[/b][/QUOTE]
Thank you for that helpful bit of insight that was completely worth everybodies time and attention. I commend you on spending all of 10 seconds typing that all out and posting it, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation at hand.
[editline]6th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=.Lain;49254775]agg/gg is pathetic as fuck lmao[/QUOTE]
video games are corrupt donate to my paetron :)
um no they're not, donate to my paetron and i'll prove it :)
[editline]6th December 2015[/editline]
I don't think this is some massive gamergate conspiracy by the DA's office, that sounds like a really massive stretch. The guy that he originally posted about on facebook was in the comments openly talking about his threats, his sister(?) also deactivated her facebook account at some point after he posted that on facebook
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49256861]Thank you for that helpful bit of insight that was completely worth everybodies time and attention. I commend you on spending all of 10 seconds typing that all out and posting it, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation at hand.
)[/QUOTE]
Good job completely missing the point of why i replied to him with that and attempting to zing me by using it back against me when im trying to steer the stray people back onto the topic at hand when quite a few people have mentioned that we should actually dicuss the MISSING PERSONS CASE.
No but please go ahead, try and be the cool dude.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;49256878]Good job completely missing the point of why i replied to him with that and attempting to zing me by using it back against me when im trying to steer the stray people back onto the topic at hand when quite a few people have mentioned that we should actually dicuss the MISSING PERSONS CASE.
No but please go ahead, try and be the cool dude.[/QUOTE]
Hey, hey you know what's a good way to steer a conversation back on topic. Actually talking about the topic like I did in the post you quoted. try doing that next time instead of just making an all caps post in bold
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49256887]Hey, hey you know what's a good way to steer a conversation back on topic. Actually talking about the topic like I did in the post you quoted. try doing that next time instead of just making an all caps post in bold[/QUOTE]
Funny, because i didnt do that to you.
The posts i responded to werent talking about the topic at hand btw.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49256861]
video games are corrupt donate to my paetron :)
um no they're not, donate to my paetron and i'll prove it :)
[/QUOTE]
Im also a little unsure as to how this is any better than my posts.
Actually it seems worse, since you're deliberately egging him on.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49256482]Whenever Someone anti-gamergate gets death threats: "Haha proffessional victims"
Whenever someone pro gamergate gets death threats: "Wow, antigamergate is awful, good thing we don't do that"
Double standards and confirmation bias is through the roofs[/QUOTE]
Thank god you're still around to make dumb snipes without actually reading the thread.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49256482]Whenever Someone anti-gamergate gets death threats: "Haha proffessional victims"
Whenever someone pro gamergate gets death threats: "Wow, antigamergate is awful, good thing we don't do that"
Double standards and confirmation bias is through the roofs[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure a person disappearing is far past the death threats point.
[QUOTE=KillRay;49246248]You can use google and find where gamergate members have swatted, sent death threats and done equal things that AGGs have as well (theres even a wiki or some shit? [URL]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Gamergate_claims[/URL], found this with a quick google search). I'm already familiar with all the awful shit AGG has done as well being an ex browser of /r/TiA when I was younger. Feel free to show me atrocities one side commited that the other didn't because from a spectators view, it's all the same shit to me[/QUOTE]
Isn't rationalwiki's gamergate pages edited by a guy named Ryulong, whom somehow managed to get himself permabanned from editing wikipedia articles about gamergate due to his edits being biased and inflammatory?
Sounds like a really good source, pally!
I totally glossed over the last few pages for obvious reasons but have they found the body yet?
[QUOTE=MIPS;49257905]I totally glossed over the last few pages for obvious reasons but have they found the body yet?[/QUOTE]
That's a little macabre considering that so far there's no direct evidence she was harmed (but I'm aware of the statistics on disappearances).
I suppose that also answers your question.
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