[quote][b]Degtyarev[/b][/quote]
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Didn't know the good Major had a thing against homosexuals. Damn.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;41972221]I'm glad Russia is being proactive in preventing outbreaks of Weregays.[/QUOTE]
Every full moon, they hunt full moons
[QUOTE=AlienCreature;41972878][img]http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/square_small/6/60307/1271884-degtaryev.png[/img]
Didn't know the good Major had a thing against homosexuals. Damn.[/QUOTE]
Mr Degtyarev is an unfunny clown from the Liberal-Democratic Party (Mr Zhirinovsky's pupil, but Mr Zhirinovsky himself is a funny clown) is a marionette party for Mr Putin with general nationalistic rhetoric (aimed at stupid fat people in their forties-fifties) and zero effectiveness whatsoever, statements they make often don't lead to anything happening at all. Also Mr Degtyarev's running for Moscow Mayor with a general idea that Moscow (and Russia) will be in "the avant-garde of anti-Antichrist fight" (the Antichrist may or may not be America).
Russia, you seriously scare me some times. Seriously.
good, i'd never want a gay kidney. what if it makes me have gay thoughts? I don't want to fuck men! Because that's how being gay works, right?
[QUOTE=Ezhik;41973072]good, i'd never want a gay kidney. what if it makes me have gay thoughts? I don't want to fuck men! Because that's how being gay works, right?[/QUOTE]
The worst thing is that you'd piss with gay piss, the guys from the zona won't be pleased
I once too blood from a gay guy
now I have a lisp and have grown a thirst for mancum
France has a ban on gay blood donors too, yet we just legalized gay marriage.
Everyone is acting outraged and being cynical about this, but that's not really because people might get "the gay" or "gay people" are filthy (well, it seems to be the cases in Russia, but not in France or the UK). It just happens studies have been claiming for years HIV is significantly more developped amongst the gay community because anal sex equals higher risks of catching it from an infected partner than vaginal.
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Basicly highrisk groups aren't allowed to give blood for obvious reasons, and gay people fall under this category.
I hate the fact that if I sleep with a man I can't donate blood for 12 months. It's basically saying "be chaste or be straight" if I want to donate.
If I were in a rarer or more dire blood group I'd be outright offended.
"sexologists"
What a misleading job title.
That's stupid as shit. Imagine having really rare blood group, you have a relative who shares it with you, but he is homosexual. and the doctor is like, "That's a gay blood, sorry. You'll just have to wait till we get some hetero blood for you!"
[QUOTE=Kefirman;41973966]That's stupid as shit. Imagine having really rare blood group, you have a relative who shares it with you, but he is homosexual. and the doctor is like, "That's a gay blood, sorry. You'll just have to wait till we get some hetero blood for you!"[/QUOTE]
If he's a relative willing to give blood for you, I believe this is still legal and easy to test the batch for STDs.
We're talking about wide range blood donations to Blood Charities or whatever they're called.
Can't donate in the UK if you've had sex with a man in the past 12 months either.
My blood is too fabulous for them anyway.
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Degtyarev also added that the lower house was working on the initiative to offer gays voluntary anonymous consultations with psychologists, psychotherapists and sexologists that would help them to “return to normal life and become heterosexuals, as are 95 to 99 percent of our citizens.”[/quote]
someone go check florida, i think the pray-the-gay-away guys who closed down there moved to russia
[QUOTE=Kefirman;41973966]That's stupid as shit. Imagine having really rare blood group, you have a relative who shares it with you, but he is homosexual. and the doctor is like, "That's a gay blood, sorry. You'll just have to wait till we get some hetero blood for you!"[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that's exactly how it works.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;41973072]good, i'd never want a gay kidney. what if it makes me have gay thoughts? I don't want to fuck men! Because that's how being gay works, right?[/QUOTE]
That has nothing to do with it for the majority of countries that do this, including the United States. HIV and AIDS is a disease that is most commonly transferrable by blood. A group of people who have scientific correlation to having a higher risk of HIV and AIDS infection, should be more closely regulated in regards to being a blood donor. Only ignorant fools would attribute homosexuality itself as being contagious would believe what you just said. that may be the case for Russia, but it isn't for most other countries. A country [i]could[/i] test the blood for infection prior to allowing a donation, but you have to understand that they'd have to do this every single time they want to donate. It's easier to just exclude a group from being able to donate who have a higher risk of infection, in contrast to already having plenty of people donating. It isn't as horrible as most of you are making it out to be. What should be a talking point here is the fact that Russia is offering "conversion therapy" to those who want to donate but are unable to due to their sexual preference, so they can become 'heterosexual' and be able to donate. That's what I see as a bigger issue.
Pretty sure here in the US if you have had gay sex with a guy then you're not allowed to donate blood.
I could be wrong.
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;41974995]I don't know about you, but I would definitely not feel safe receiving blood in a country that thinks that excluding a group of people is a better plan than just testing every single donor. Seems like that would make you much more likely of getting something like HIV.[/QUOTE]
The French "Don du sang" organisation throws to the trash 1/3 of the blood they're getting because they have too much. This is good mind you, that means in case of a nation-wide emergency we won't struggle to find blood.
That also means we can exclude a highrisk group of people to avoid the hassle of testing more blood, hiring doctors for the 1 hour long group of exams before the blood donation even happens. Giving blood is not some kind of social-debate where everyone has to be equal, this is all about providing blood for those in need. As long as there's enough, there's no problem.
Fuck you, Russia. Why not just go whole hog and round them up into concentration camps?
Fucking cockbites.
Funny thing, [url=http://s.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2013-08_1/13753649786219.jpeg]the guy[/url] who pushes most of the anti-gay laws in Duma is the most obviously latent homosexual you could ever find
[QUOTE=Milonov]If a person tried gay sex as an experiment, there's nothing wrong with that.
But only ONCE.[/QUOTE]
Seriously
He's also the same guy who tried to pass the "Give passports to embryos" and "Forbid cats to walk loudly at night" law
[QUOTE=Blind Lulu;41974995]I don't know about you, but I would definitely not feel safe receiving blood in a country that thinks that excluding a group of people is a better plan than just testing every single donor. Seems like that would make you much more likely of getting something like HIV.[/QUOTE]
You must not feel safe at all then considering the United States is effectively doing the same thing, minus the option for conversion therapy. I feel safer knowing we're taking the extra steps to avoid contamination and the spread of infection and disease by excluding a few people who want to donate, something which isn't a requirement or something you get paid for. I don't see what everyones deal is with this, it's perfectly acceptable.
It would be ridiculously expensive to test every Blood sample for HIV anyways. It's a lot easier to cut the risk by excluding people with risk factors, which just happens to be having gay sex.
Wait are you telling me they're not testing for HIV
Its like when north korea had to say something dumb every day.
Except with russians
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;41976209]Wait are you telling me they're not testing for HIV[/QUOTE]
You're examined for HIV, Hepatitis and such before-hand.
Although they can't tell if you got hiv if you were infected very recently.
This ban would be a waste of time, since it's already illegal to be publicly gay, if you tell the person at the blood drive, you'd be arrested.
I misread the article. I though it was about gay people being unable to recieve blood transfusions and organ donations, [I]that would be stupid.[/I]
Excluding gay people from donating blood is actually (as posted earlier) very common, even here in Demark, because gay people apparently are a statistically proven high risk group according to the health department. In general, this is mainly because of carefulnes. If you even do as much as travel to Bulgaria, visit your dentist or take any kind of medicine, you aren't allowed to donate for a set period of time.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;41972626]We have a ban on gays and people who were in the UK from x to y as well, it's not that unreasonable. It's your call if it's still relevant today, but you can't put this one on Russia.[/QUOTE]
Well, yes you can. This is almost assuredly only now implemented because of the recent bout of mass homophobia.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;41974855]That has nothing to do with it for the majority of countries that do this, including the United States. HIV and AIDS is a disease that is most commonly transferrable by blood. A group of people who have scientific correlation to having a higher risk of HIV and AIDS infection, should be more closely regulated in regards to being a blood donor. Only ignorant fools would attribute homosexuality itself as being contagious would believe what you just said. that may be the case for Russia, but it isn't for most other countries. A country [i]could[/i] test the blood for infection prior to allowing a donation, but you have to understand that they'd have to do this every single time they want to donate. It's easier to just exclude a group from being able to donate who have a higher risk of infection, in contrast to already having plenty of people donating. It isn't as horrible as most of you are making it out to be. What should be a talking point here is the fact that Russia is offering "conversion therapy" to those who want to donate but are unable to due to their sexual preference, so they can become 'heterosexual' and be able to donate. That's what I see as a bigger issue.[/QUOTE]
oh god i was just making a terrible joke
[QUOTE=Lium;41972205]Okay, now that is silly. Unless they've got AIDS or something, the blood could be used to save lives.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised that you even said this
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