• Israeli driver ran over 2 Palestinian children
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[QUOTE=Afgman;25319735]What if your kids where pretending to play COD 4 and were throwing stones at a car? Than the guy ran them over . Sick fucks like you deserve to get their dick chopped off.[/QUOTE] I'm sure that I didn't throw rocks at random people and their cars when I was five.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25319577]So you're telling me, if you see 4 kids on the shoulder of a road preparing to throw rocks at your car you would swerve towards them instead of trying to avoid them?[/QUOTE] who wouldn't
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;25321639]It ain't a damn bandwagon when common sense is in play. But they didn't die, you're fucking going around acting like a damn idiot saying that they did die. Just because someone gets hit by a car, you shouldn't be fucking planning the funeral. I would typically criticize you for assuming, but this ain't even an assumption, it's a blatant ignoring of the facts. Have you ever heard of intent to kill dumb ass? Your eyes don't see in a set resolution, brochacho, and no, but I can damn well see the inside of a car well enough that I know that a child is in the seat. Thanks for telling me that :)? Give me a red circle on where you saw this "child." [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=bunguer;25321730]Are you a troll or just incredibly stupid? I'm serious, I can't tell.[/QUOTE] Why ask dumb ass?
[img]http://gyazo.com/253c9fbbd1459b2b914a6d6a885919d3.png[/img] Ouch.
[quote=Afgman]Have you ever heard of intent to kill dumb ass?[/quote] There was no attempt to kill, only an attempt to flee. He swerved to avoid the kids, who got in front of the car anyways. [quote=Afgman] Give me a red circle on where you saw this "child."[/quote] Give me just a sec.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;25321940]There was no attempt to kill, only an attempt to flee. He swerved to avoid the kids, who got in front of the car anyways. Give me just a sec.[/QUOTE] Yes because swerving into a bunch of kids isnt a intent to kill.
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321948]Yes because swerving into a bunch of kids isnt a intent to kill.[/QUOTE] are you not capable of reading he said the driver attempted to swerve out of the way but the kids ran in front of the car anyway plus if these fuckers were throwing rocks at my car I would run them over. self-defense bro
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321948]Yes because swerving into a bunch of kids isnt a intent to kill.[/QUOTE] The evidence behind the driver not having the intent to kill has been stated several times. Sounding his horn, stopping etc.
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321948]Yes because swerving into a bunch of kids isnt a intent to kill.[/QUOTE] God damn you are daft. It's called self defense, as Doriol said. Also: [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Attack.jpg[/IMG] It seems to be a child in a car seat, or it could be a container, the video quality is low. Also, watching the video, you can tell his rear windshield was already shattered.
[QUOTE=BrokenSanity;25322078]The evidence behind the driver not having the intent to kill has been stated several times. Sounding his horn, stopping etc.[/QUOTE] He could have gone straight? Why swerve into them and keep on going forward?
[QUOTE=Afgman;25322190]He could have gone straight? Why swerve into them and keep on going forward?[/QUOTE] life isn't a video game bro
Kid deserved it, he had both bad intentions and he ran straight into a car.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25320171]they didn't run head on, the car [B]swerved[/B] into them. Is it that difficult for you to see that? I also provided a source earlier, that it may have not been a setup anyways as the camerman were covering a protest that was happening that day. If you think running over little kids for throwing rocks at your car is fine, then thats your opinion even though I think thats retarded.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking serious? It's not like they were stationary at the side of the road. He thought that he could avoid them by swerving to the left but they ran right into his car.
Rock vs car, car wins!
It's not self defense, it's an accident. He had absolutely zero intention of hitting those kids regardless of them throwing rocks at him. The fact that they slowed down (going down a hill so it's even harder), used the horn and stoppped afterwards (unfortunately having to go again because there are more than children throwing rocks at him) all point to him not hitting them on purpose. The "swerved into them" argument relies on the driver being of perfect state of mind, there actually being a perfect path available (20-20 hindsight not applicable) and that the other indicators of panic and warning were just a ruse. It's also interesting to see people bringing larger parts of the conflict into this. Most people are looking at it from a local perspective with the kids "deserving" it because they ran out in front of a car and threw rocks at him, no sympathy for an idiot. Some people on the other hand misunderstand this and think they are are justifying it because it's an Israel-Palestine issue with the kids deserving it because they are Palestinian. Forget where they are, forget who is driving the car and who is throwing rocks, forget any ulterior motives they might have, look at it from the perspective of the local events as if they happened anywhere else in the world.
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321276]We are talking about fucking rocks here.[/QUOTE] We're talking about a scared civilian. If the driver was an IDF guy I'd have a different opinion.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25322454]We're talking about a scared civilian. If the driver was an IDF guy I'd have a different opinion.[/QUOTE] You mean a "settler" who torn down homes so he can enjoy his life. but wait a moment.. what a israeli jew doing in a Palestinian town in times like these? o wait lets say he was going to the mall ( which dont exist )* and then go to the towns park(which dont exist) to have a normal picnic and then go to the towns peach and swin a lil bit and then without doing any thing wrong this kids starts throwing rocks on him but comon really what can a 6-8 years old kids do to him? and does it really justify the fact hes driving over little kids? hes trying to
[QUOTE=Afgman;25322552]You mean a "settler" who torn down homes so he can enjoy his life.[/QUOTE] That is completely irrelevant. Who cares what he is, he panicked like anyone else. Although (in your mind) he had a motive for intentionally running them over, the evidence of the situation says otherwise.
It's a shame they didn't get more injured, or killed. What a waste of human life, the food they eat could be going elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Afgman;25322552]but wait a moment.. what a israeli jew doing in a Palestinian town in times like these? o wait lets say he was going to the mall ( which dont exist )* and then go to the towns park(which dont exist) to have a normal picnic and then go to the towns peach and swin a lil bit and then without doing any thing wrong this kids starts throwing rocks on him but comon really what can a 6-8 years old kids do to him? and does it really justify the fact hes driving over little kids? hes trying to[/QUOTE] Things aren't so bad that they have to stay confined to their settlements. It also does not matter what he was doing there as it's just an ordinary road that he's allowed to be on as much as anyone else. Kids throwing rocks is not anything to scoff at either, they broke or cracked several windows and obviously weren't letting up. A rock is a rock even if it's travelling a bit slower. While some people may consider it, there is no justification for intentionally running them over because they were throwing rocks at him. The real situation however is that it was an accident on the drivers part and the kids are only deserving due to running out in front of the car. Throwing rocks contributed to the drivers panic and forced him to flee afterwards but it was still an accident and the only people at fault are the ones who put themselves in that situation.
If he hit them on purpose he would have continued to drive off, not stop. Those little kids got what they deserved.
Wouldn't exactly say they got what they deserved, but honestly I don't pity them a bit.
cant decide who deserves punishment
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321276]We are talking about fucking rocks here.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cRuhXK9Hn8[/media] Just rocks, right? Just rocks. They're not big, and heavy, and blunt; and being thrown at high speeds combined with the opposing speed of the moving vehicle or anything like that. I mean, a civilian vehicle should be able to withstand what a military vehicle barely has a defense against, right? They're just rocks, after all.
the kids should get darwin award for being so stupid
[QUOTE=Thom12255;25318986]Were the children throwing stones and running towards the car wrong to do so or completely right?[/QUOTE] they were wrong to do so but that doesn't mean that they deserve to be run over you fascist dunce, jeeze
[QUOTE=Guardian-Angel;25324082]They're not big, and heavy, and blunt[/QUOTE] it actually depends, sometimes they are heavy enough to break peoples head(mostly the ones what can be seen in the video), or they are the light ones you see at beaches
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25322792]Things aren't so bad that they have to stay confined to their settlements. It also does not matter what he was doing there as it's just an ordinary road that he's allowed to be on as much as anyone else. Kids throwing rocks is not anything to scoff at either, they broke or cracked several windows and obviously weren't letting up. A rock is a rock even if it's travelling a bit slower. While some people may consider it, there is no justification for intentionally running them over because they were throwing rocks at him. The real situation however is that it was an accident on the drivers part and the kids are only deserving due to running out in front of the car. Throwing rocks contributed to the drivers panic and forced him to flee afterwards but it was still an accident and the only people at fault are the ones who put themselves in that situation.[/QUOTE] yeah [i]just[/i] rocks not anything that could kill somebody right especially when it's flying through the air and you drive into it at 30+ something miles per hour
[QUOTE=Afgman;25321948]Yes because swerving into a bunch of kids isnt a intent to kill.[/QUOTE] If that were me I wouldn't have stopped either. I'm not being callous but they're obviously trying to get in the way so the driver has no choice but to stop. That's a bad, bad move. You don't want to stop.
If he stopped they would have surrounded the car and he would have been done for.
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