• Israeli driver ran over 2 Palestinian children
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[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333688] But it's stupid that we're arguing whether the kids deserved it or not, when we should be arguing whether the car was able to avoid them or not (which I think he can if he didn't turn towards them). [/QUOTE] No he would not be able to. You see, kids are not static objects that do not change their position. Not to mention driver was most likely scared and in panic.
[QUOTE=fish puncher;25333710]If you look on the other side of the road (the driver's right) in the video, you can see that there are kids over there, too.[/QUOTE] yeah but that kid was running to the right, in my view to avoid the car which hasn't yet swerved towards that direction. I think that kid would have been avoided if the car was going its present speed or even slowed down. [QUOTE=johan_sm;25333741]No he would not be able to. You see, kids are not static objects that do not change their position. Not to mention driver was most likely scared and in panic.[/QUOTE] I mentioned that, I think the kid(s) were running to shoulder to avoid the car before it swerved towards them. Little kids don't run towards cars.
He didn't run them over on purpose if you look at the video after he hits the kids it shows another kid that was standing right in the middle of the road so if he went straight he would have hit him and if you watch before the two kids got hit it shows them run towards the front of the car to toss the rock but then got hit because they were being idioticly close to it. If he had stopped then they would have gotten around the car and start beating it with rocks, probably killing the guy because that's what's happening in isreal right now.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;25333772]He didn't run them over on purpose if you look at the video after he hits the kids it shows another kid that was standing right in the middle of the road so if he went straight he would have hit him and if you watch before the two kids got hit it shows them run towards the front of the car to toss the rock but then got hit because they were being idioticly close to it. If he had stopped then they would have gotten around the car and start beating it with rocks, probably killing the guy because that's what's happening in isreal right now.[/QUOTE] yeah the kid was running originally to the shoulder, but in the next shot hes standing still because he saw the car swerve towards the direction he was running too. Also no, he would have not been killed. Give me one source of a driver in Israel being killed by rocks that were thrown by little kids.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333847]yeah the kid was running originally to the shoulder, but in the next shot hes standing still because he saw the car swerve towards the direction he was running too. Also no, he would have not been killed. Give me one source of a driver in Israel being killed by rocks that were thrown by little kids.[/QUOTE] rocks thrown by anyone can kill people even little kids stop treating them as if they were toddlers, they were old enough to be atleast 10+ and kids who are 10+ can throw shit pretty hard
No, he wouldn't have died but definitely badly wounded.
[QUOTE=Melnek;25333881]No, he wouldn't have died but definitely badly wounded.[/QUOTE] How do you know? If he would get ganged, he easily could.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;25333876]rocks thrown by anyone can kill people even little kids stop treating them as if they were toddlers, they were old enough to be atleast 10+ and kids who are 10+ can throw shit pretty hard[/QUOTE] no they can't especially if you're in a car. Give me one source of a driver getting killed by rocks that thrown by kids. Just one, This shit happens on a daily basis in the Middle-East so you should have no problem finding something.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333918]no they can't especially if you're in a car. Give me one source of a driver getting killed by rocks that thrown by kids. Just one,[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036942/Driver-killed-injured-pupils-throw-stones-cars-busy-dual-carriageway.html[/URL] [url]http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/08/08/1626723/nc-teen-killed-by-rock-thrown.html[/url]
Also Sporkfire, in the video you can clearly see his back window completely shattered from the rock fire.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;25333932][URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036942/Driver-killed-injured-pupils-throw-stones-cars-busy-dual-carriageway.html[/URL] [url]http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/08/08/1626723/nc-teen-killed-by-rock-thrown.html[/url][/QUOTE] He died, because of an accident caused by the rocks being thrown. Not by rocks themselves. The second was done by a teenager.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333970]He died, because of an accident caused by the rocks being thrown. Not by rocks themselves.[/QUOTE] the guy's fuckin windshield broke the rock would have gone through it and if it hit him he would have died from the rock too [QUOTE=Guardian-Angel;25324082] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=5cRuhXK9Hn8[/URL] Just rocks, right? Just rocks. They're not big, and heavy, and blunt; and being thrown at high speeds combined with the opposing speed of the moving vehicle or anything like that. I mean, a civilian vehicle should be able to withstand what a military vehicle barely has a defense against, right? They're just rocks, after all.[/QUOTE] a military grade wind shield was broken by a rock
fair enough
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333970] The second was done by a teenager.[/QUOTE] one of the kids throwing rocks in the video looked old enough to be 14 they're not toddlers [editline]06:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sporkfire;25334004]fair enough[/QUOTE] alrighty then
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;25333970]He died, because of an accident caused by the rocks being thrown. Not by rocks themselves. The second was done by a teenager.[/QUOTE] Now you're just grasping at straws. Face it, the kids were in the wrong here. Are you so deep in your own biased filth that you just cant handle the fact that Palestinians MIGHT be in the wrong for once?
[QUOTE=Melnek;25334026]Now you're just grasping at straws. Face it, the kids were in the wrong here. Are you so deep in your own biased filth that you just cant handle the fact that Palestinians MIGHT be in the wrong for once?[/QUOTE] I'm not saying what they did was right, I already mentioned that before. Strawman me more.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;25333992]the guy's fuckin windshield broke the rock would have gone through it and if it hit him he would have died from the rock too[/QUOTE] lolwat I mean it's still their fault cause their rock throwing caused the accident, but seriously you're going to tell me the rock would have killed him?
[QUOTE=Chilean;25334078]lolwat I mean it's still their fault cause their rock throwing caused the accident, but seriously you're going to tell me the rock would have killed him?[/QUOTE] Maybe not the rock itself, but broken glass + a rock in your face could easily make you lose control over your car thus possibly getting you and more children killed.
[QUOTE=Melnek;25334108]Maybe not the rock itself, but broken glass + a rock in your face could easily make you lose control over your car thus possibly getting you and more children killed.[/QUOTE] No doubt you'd be injured as a mother fucker, but probably not dead. But again, like I said, yes the resulting crash is still deadly and yes it's still the rock throwers' fault.
[QUOTE=Chilean;25334078]lolwat I mean it's still their fault cause their rock throwing caused the accident, but seriously you're going to tell me the rock would have killed him?[/QUOTE] a stone moving at 60mph+ would kill anyone especially if it's enough to go through a windshield, a bat can't go through a windshield
[QUOTE=Melnek;25334026]Now you're just grasping at straws. Face it, the kids were in the wrong here. Are you so deep in your own biased filth that you just cant handle the fact that Palestinians MIGHT be in the wrong for once?[/QUOTE] just because the palestinian children were in the wrong, it doesn't automatically make the Israeli in the right.
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oh I didn't read that it was 60 mph, "busy" made me think of jammed barely moving
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;25334212]just because the palestinian children were in the wrong, it doesn't automatically make the Israeli in the right.[/QUOTE] works both ways.
[QUOTE=Melnek;25334285]works both ways.[/QUOTE] that's my point
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;25333932][URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036942/Driver-killed-injured-pupils-throw-stones-cars-busy-dual-carriageway.html[/URL] [/QUOTE] Why do they refer to it as an accident? That's manslaughter. Would it still be an "accident" if the children used guns to destroy the windshields and cause deadly crashes instead of rocks?
[QUOTE=Chilean;25334251]oh I didn't read that it was 60 mph, "busy" made me think of jammed barely moving[/QUOTE] [quote] The three children were questioned after they were allegedly seen hurling stones into the path of cars on the 60mph stretch of the Heads of the Valleys road. [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036942/Driver-killed-injured-pupils-throw-stones-cars-busy-dual-carriageway.html#ixzz11yzXhERb"][/URL][/quote] yeah
[QUOTE=Orkel;25334319]Why do they refer to it as an accident? That's manslaughter. Would it still be an "accident" if the children used guns to destroy the windshields and cause deadly crashes instead of rocks?[/QUOTE] Because you refer to it by the driver, who panicked and accidentally hit someone, so it was a traffic accident. Plus even if they referred to it with the kids in blame it would be murder not manslaughter.
The stupidity of some of the people in this thread makes me want to scream.
People were getting killed left and right by rocks before protective covers were put on dump trucks.
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