Underage LSU students busted with 1,800-plus cans of beer for spring break
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[quote]a Ford pickup that was towing a trailer with an expired tag[/quote]
Those underage frat guys overlooked one minor detail, how ironic.
One can only hope when the cop asked to search the trailer one of those guys said "Sure, but try not to break any of our liquor bottles while you're looking, thanks."
For all you people saying the drinking age should be lower...
Science has literally proven that the Brain continues developing until about 21. Even though the growth at late stage (18-21) isn't as much as previously, there's still enough for alcohol to have an adverse affect on the development for the brain. That's why the drinking age was set to 21, not some prohibition stuff or other bullshit like that.
I'm pretty bloody sure the brain keeps on developing past 21. And if it doesn't we need science to fix that glaring bug.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47486276]For all you people saying the drinking age should be lower...
Science has literally proven that the Brain continues developing until about 21. Even though the growth at late stage (18-21) isn't as much as previously, there's still enough for alcohol to have an adverse affect on the development for the brain. [B]That's why the drinking age was set to 21, not some prohibition stuff or other bullshit like that.[/B][/QUOTE]
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act"]Wrong, Mothers Against Drunk Driving lobbied for 21. [/URL]
It's so weird reading stories like this for me. Speaking mostly from personal experience, here it's pretty normal that people start drinking when they're about 15-16 and it pretty much culminates in the last two years of high school.
Not saying this is good or anything but definitely has some advantages: by the time you go to college you will be perfectly aware of your limits and might even develop some tolerance.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47486276]For all you people saying the drinking age should be lower...
Science has literally proven that the Brain continues developing until about 21. Even though the growth at late stage (18-21) isn't as much as previously, there's still enough for alcohol to have an adverse affect on the development for the brain. That's why the drinking age was set to 21, not some prohibition stuff or other bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
Yes, for everyone's health. God knows if Americans were allowed to drink before 21 they'd turn out to be a bunch of gaggling retards like those Europeans. Gotta protect their brains, see?
[QUOTE=.Lain;47486043]i can't wrap my head around the US limiting alcohol to 21 when everything else is 18
21 seems like such an arbitrary and...late age for access to something like alcohol[/QUOTE]
Because our society can barley contain itself at 21 let alone 18. Other countries are a little more mature than us.
[QUOTE=.Lain;47486043]i can't wrap my head around the US limiting alcohol to 21 when everything else is 18
21 seems like such an arbitrary and...late age for access to something like alcohol[/QUOTE]
Over here the idea is that your brain is fully matured by the age of 21.
Don't expect me to defend it, its what I was told in health class
[QUOTE=Kingy_who;47486244]I think mortgages are.[/QUOTE]
nah, 18. you just never heard of 18 year olds taking out mortgages for obvious reasons
[editline]9th April 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47486276]For all you people saying the drinking age should be lower...
Science has literally proven that the Brain continues developing until about 21. Even though the growth at late stage (18-21) isn't as much as previously, there's still enough for alcohol to have an adverse affect on the development for the brain. That's why the drinking age was set to 21, not some prohibition stuff or other bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
a whole lot of things can have potential adverse effects on mental development that you [I]can[/I] access before 21 in the US. and before 18.
prevention of binge drinking is what you want. not prevention of drinking in itself
[QUOTE=aydin690;47486292][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act"]Wrong, Mothers Against Drunk Driving lobbied for 21. [/URL][/QUOTE]
And guess why they did?
21 isn't a factual limit for brain development, it's very much an arbitrary number nowadays.
NCBI claims mental development continues right up until mid to late 20's.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47486276]For all you people saying the drinking age should be lower...
Science has literally proven that the Brain continues developing until about 21. Even though the growth at late stage (18-21) isn't as much as previously, there's still enough for alcohol to have an adverse affect on the development for the brain. That's why the drinking age was set to 21, not some prohibition stuff or other bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://hrweb.mit.edu/worklife/youngadult/brain.html#beyond] Hell I was wrong, it's even later...[/url]
The main reason it was pushed so hard was Drunk Driving in the early 80s. Number of accidents due to DWIs dropped sharply after the age rose from 18 to 21. It'd be hard to put it back down.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;47486393]And guess why they did?[/QUOTE]
Says it right there. It had nothing to do with brain development:
[QUOTE]Legislation concerning the legal minimum drinking age in the United States can be traced back to the days of prohibition. In 1920, the 18th amendment to the U.S. Constitution declared it illegal to manufacture, transport, or sell intoxicating liquors.[3] This was repealed with the passing of the 21st amendment in 1933, which was followed by the adoption of minimum legal drinking age policies in all states, with most states electing a minimum legal drinking age (MLDA) of 21.[3] Between 1970 and 1975, 29 states lowered the MLDA from 21 to 18, 19, or 20. This was primarily due to the passing of the 26th Amendment which lowered the required voting age from 21 to 18.[3] During the 1960s, both Congress and the state legislatures came under increasing pressure to lower the minimum voting age from 21 to 18. This was in large part due to the Vietnam War, in which many young men who were ineligible to vote (or to legally drink) were conscripted to fight in the war, thus lacking any means to influence the people sending them off to risk their lives. "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote," was a common slogan used by proponents of lowering the voting age. The slogan traced its roots to World War II, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt lowered the military draft age to eighteen. With the lowering of the voting age to 18, the MLDA was similarly lowered under the notion that by being able to vote (and for males, be subject to being involuntarily drafted into the enlisted ranks of the military), one should also be able to legally consume alcoholic beverages.
[B]However, these changes were soon followed by studies showing an increase in motor vehicle fatalities attributable to the decreased MLDA. In response to these findings, many states raised the minimum legal drinking age to 19 (and sometimes to 20 or 21).[3] In 1984, the National Minimum Legal Drinking Act, written by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) and influenced by Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD), required all states to enforce a minimum legal drinking age of 21 or else risk losing 10% of all federal highway construction funds.[/B][/QUOTE]
So with Americas infamous watered down beer: would that be five standard drinks?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;47486046]That should be a crime in and of itself.[/QUOTE]
Ya 100 cases of Nat isnt really all that expensive, its like 13$ for a 30 pack, I mean its really just a cheap shitty college beer, my campus is paved with cans of the stuff during the weekends. Its the worst
I've personally seen someone's mom roll up in a minivan packed from front to back with cases
[QUOTE=Damoman;47486443]So with Americas infamous watered down beer: would that be five standard drinks?[/QUOTE]
Stop right there. Sure, [del]a lot[/del] all of the light and cheap stuff is exactly what it is: light and cheap. Essentially it's crap, but a lot of the beers produced by actual breweries come out as phenomenal exceptions. Don't go there, because Arrogant Bastard, Stone, Great Lakes, Sierra Nevada, Southern Tier, Rhinegeist, Dogfish Head, Lagunitas, etc... I could literally go on and on. American craft beer can be pretty great.
Anyways, I think the age should just be 18. Responsibility is something that can be taught, and honestly isn't too hard.
#learn2smart
At 17, you are free to enlist in the United States Armed Forces and die in the line of duty for your country.
At 18, you are free to voice your opinion on the matter of politics and who is elected to represent you, as well as legally have sexual intercourse with others your age AND legally purchase a firearm.
But you can't consume a drop of alcohol until you're 21, less you face fines and potentially prison time.
Makes sense to me.
[QUOTE=Deng;47486132]You can vote, drive, serve in the army, and have sex in America before you are considered old enough to have alcohol?[/QUOTE]
Don't forget smoke cigarettes, which are even more mind altering and addictive, you can get addicted to cigarettes at 18
[QUOTE=Hank228;47486502]At 17, you are free to enlist in the United States Armed Forces and die in the line of duty for your country.
At 18, you are free to voice your opinion on the matter of politics and who is elected to represent you, as well as legally have sexual intercourse with others your age AND legally purchase a firearm.
But you can't consume a drop of alcohol until you're 21, less you face fines and potentially prison time.
Makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]
You're not going to get fucking prison time for MIP/MIC. What the actual fuck are you on.
[QUOTE=Hank228;47486502]At 17, you are free to enlist in the United States Armed Forces and die in the line of duty for your country.
At 18, you are free to voice your opinion on the matter of politics and who is elected to represent you, as well as legally have sexual intercourse with others your age AND legally purchase a firearm.
But you can't consume a drop of alcohol until you're 21, less you face fines and potentially prison time.
Makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of anyone going to jail for their own underage drinking, its mainly if you are caught driving drunk then you loose your license till your like 21, everything else is just fines because its stupidly hard to actually enforce it. The police and colleges are actually semi-realistic about it and don't ever crack down unless its blatantly obvious like a freshman doing shots in front of them, even then its usually a stern talking to by some scary member of the school and a public citation.
I knew a guy that got caught with a case in his dorm room his sophomore year and he just had to do community service and got to sit down with some high up faculty
[QUOTE=Sableye;47486523]I've never heard of anyone going to jail for their own underage drinking, its mainly if you are caught driving drunk then you loose your license till your like 21, everything else is just fines because its stupidly hard to actually enforce it. The police and colleges are actually semi-realistic about it and don't ever crack down unless its blatantly obvious like a freshman doing shots in front of them, even then its usually a stern talking to by some scary member of the school and a public citation.
I knew a guy that got caught with a case in his dorm room his sophomore year and he just had to do community service and got to sit down with some high up faculty[/QUOTE]
Yeah pretty much anything underage that ends in jailtime has other factors involved besides drinking.
Never understood the weird age lateness there.
It's 18 here, and as any university student will tell you, thank fuck.
That guy knows how to party!
where i lived for part of my childhood, minors could drink at any age so long as they were in their own home and had parental/guardian permission to be drinking.
which meant on my 12th birthday me and my friends got hammered and discovered what a hangover was. :v:
23% of [i]all[/i] drunk drivers in the US are between the age of 21-25, almost a quarter of all drunk drivers fall into a 4 year age group which is the first 4 years you can legally drink. Allowing 18-21 year olds to drink would dramatically increase the rates at which we see accidents and fatalities involving cars and alcohol. As much as I love the freedom to do what you want to your body, allowing young people with poor judgement (and some with invincibility complexes) to drink and get intoxicated seems like a really terrible idea.
Schools have regular assemblies where people will come in to talk about the dangers of drunk driving. I remember having a kid from [i]my school[/i] come in my senior year, to tell us how he killed his girlfriend when he was driving her home from a party with friends by crashing into a light pole and flipping his car. He was to go on trial a few weeks later for vehicular homicide and a slew of other charges. He was looking at anywhere from 14-100 years in prison. We definitely educate the kids on the dangers, it's just most young people have really shit judgement when it comes to these things.
I see far more negatives than positives to letting Americans drink 3 years earlier than they are currently allowed to. But that's just my opinion I suppose.
I think legal age should be 18 everywhere, if it wasn't 18 for me I wouldn't learn some of the biggest lessons of my life by the age of 21 (now).
Like I started drinking horribly at 18 when I went to college, it was fun and games at start but then: Got robbed when I was completely drunk, literally just taken phone out of pocket when I was standing awake, all the cash gone, few times fights, started smoking heavily, hangovers, beer belly, health issues.
Now I am 21, I am about to graduate and: I don't drink anymore, I enjoy sunny days on beaches playing ball or flying kite (it's fun even at 21), my health is improving at a very rapid rate, I have quit smoking completely, no fights and I look healthy in general, + I get to keep all that money.
Sorry for bit of life story but yeah, I think that if you are 18, and living with parents and there is no risk of becoming homeless, it's better for age limit to be 18 than you finishing college, moving out of parents house at 21 and then becoming alcoholic and homeless by ruining your life with alcohol.
That's just my opinion anyway.
[QUOTE=aydin690;47486259]What's wrong with boxed wine? You do realize that a lot of expensive brands have offer them as well, right? Also, boxed wine stays fresh a minimum of four weeks, it’s shatter-proof, portable, will never have cork taint, and is more environmentally conscious.[/QUOTE]
Love it how some of ~expensive, exquisite wine~ tastes the same as some cheap wines, yet is 50-60 bucks pricier.
[QUOTE=Hank228;47486502]At 17, you are free to enlist in the United States Armed Forces and die in the line of duty for your country.
At 18, you are free to voice your opinion on the matter of politics and who is elected to represent you, as well as legally have sexual intercourse with others your age AND legally purchase a firearm.
But you can't consume a drop of alcohol until you're 21, less you face fines and potentially prison time.
Makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]
uh what? if you're a teen, you don't get fined for drinking unless you're driving while intoxicated or being a nuisance while intoxicated in the public. and prison time.. what? where in the world would you even get that from?
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;47486795]23% of [i]all[/i] drunk drivers in the US are between the age of 21-25, almost a quarter of all drunk drivers fall into a 4 year age group which is the first 4 years you can legally drink. Allowing 18-21 year olds to drink would dramatically increase the rates at which we see accidents and fatalities involving cars and alcohol. As much as I love the freedom to do what you want to your body, allowing young people with poor judgement (and some with invincibility complexes) to drink and get intoxicated seems like a really terrible idea.
Schools have regular assemblies where people will come in to talk about the dangers of drunk driving. I remember having a kid from [i]my school[/i] come in my senior year, to tell us how he killed his girlfriend when he was driving her home from a party with friends by crashing into a light pole and flipping his car. He was to go on trial a few weeks later for vehicular homicide and a slew of other charges. He was looking at anywhere from 14-100 years in prison. We definitely educate the kids on the dangers, it's just most young people have really shit judgement when it comes to these things.
I see far more negatives than positives to letting Americans drink 3 years earlier than they are currently allowed to. But that's just my opinion I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the rest of the world is just in utter chaos with all the vehicular homicides. Europe is desolate.
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