Kosovo launches takeover of 2 disputed border crossings with Serbia
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[QUOTE=Aman VII;31354442]Why are so many serbs (obviously not all) brainwashed from birth thinking they were the good guys and the saviors of the balkans in the 90's among other things?
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Listen, Serbs don't deny that they did some bad things in Yugoslavian war, they are mad because they are always being [B]the only one[/B] blamed.
What about Naser Olic?
He actually killed 5000 Serbians and destroyed several hundred villages in Bosnia. Because of him, Republic of Srpska army took Muslims capable of fighting, and killed them.
He is the sole reason why Srebrenica happened.
Do note it is not genocide, since genocide means complete destruction, while Serbs actually drove Muslim women and children to safety.
Or what about Franjo Tudjman?
Why does operation Force get such mild reaction compared to Kosovo?
Why does nobody notice that 250 000 Serbs were forced out of their homes in Croatia, and several thousand of them were shot by Ustashe units while retreating.
What about Kosovo Libeartion Force?
It was in Interpool's top 10 wanted criminal organizations prior to Kosovo war.
It's leader was Hasim Taci, and guess what he is today? He's president of Kosovo.
Whole Kosovo goverment basically has criminals in it.
What about Hauge?
Why does it only arrest Serbian generals and call them war criminals, and doesn't touch bosniak generals at all?
There is around 150 Serbs, 20 Croats, 2 Montenegrins, 1 Macedonian and only 1-2 Bosniaks in it?
Do you really call that fair? Or is it maybe because they want to keep image of the Bosnia as victim since that was the sole reason they intervened?
Serbs do not deny they did bad things, but they want others to admit that they did bad things as much as Serbians did (if not more, which is case of Kosovo Albanians which have been terrorizing Serbs for years now).
Oh, and I'd like to tell me when NATO or US fought on Serbia's side.
They even bombed Belgrade in WW2, and Yugoslavia was with allies.
You can't really call one side evil when you don't hear it's story, especially since that story came from mainstream media and probably is propaganda.
Also, this comment is pretty good.
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First of all, Serbia never boycotted goods stemming from Kosovo, as long as it complies with 1244 UN resolution. Second of all, it is so-called Kosovo who breaks the CEFTA agreement which was applied in practice, until so-called. Kosovo (supported by one of the worlds greatest forces) decided to break the agreement and to forcibly impose the will of Albanians over the will of Serbs in the north. If USA supports this violent act, which closely resembles to the 2004 pogrom and exodus of Serbs, the USA will clearly send a message that they are not interested in finding a solution, but rather to cause more suffering in Balkans. The agenda of the USA applied in Balkans relies either on malicious intentions, or on pure desinformation and incompetence. I choose to believe that it's the second, and not the first, though, I am not so sure anymore... Exterminate Serbs from Croatia, exterminate Serbs from Kosovo, exterminate Serbs from Bosnia... is that the only agenda of the USA when it comes to the Balkans? At least it does look so...
One thing more to add. The people in the north of the so-called Kosovo, are strongly opposing this violent action, which seems to be executed with silent approval of western powers, particularly USA. Doesn't democracy end there, where police guns are pointed against civilians, or is it still democracy because the police guns are albanian, and the civilians are Serbs?
There is no thing such as multi-ethnic Kosovo, if the Albanians are allowed to do this, this will not lead to multi-ethnic Kosovo, but to a new exodus of Serbs (slow, but massive migrations and moving away) and to the creation of second purely albanian state in Europe.
Hypocrisy and failure to recognize a failure lead to another failure...[/quote]
Sorry if it's long post, but I'd at least like to clear image about Serbia a bit to you.
This would be a good time to learn about this whole conflict in details, since I have only the basic knowledge about the situation even when it's happening right next door.
this place sounds like a shithole like almost as bad as compton
all these crazy south american dictators are always starting shit this is why the war on drugs is bad.
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Do note it is not genocide, since genocide means complete destruction, while Serbs actually drove Muslim women and children to safety.
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Lol'd hard. Yeah right.
Uh they really did drive away Muslim women and children, they killed Men and boys (that's in range around 17 years).
Go check wikipedia if you don't belive me.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;31358615]Uh they really did drive away Muslim women and children, they killed Men and boys (that's in range around 17 years).
Go check wikipedia if you don't belive me.[/QUOTE]
Let's ignore the systematic rape dotted all over Bosnia and say it was okay to kill 8,000 people in Srebrenica [i]after[/i] the women and children were [i]mostly[/i] gone.
You really are missing the point and jumping to conclusions, read my first post.
I said that Serbians admit that they did bad things, but are furious how they are only ones to be blamed always, when others were equally bad as well.
Oh and by the way, the rape numbers were pushed up a lot so it could serve as propaganda.
You will never understand the situation unless you were directly involved in war because you will find bias/propaganda everywhere.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;31359408]You really are missing the point and jumping to conclusions, read my first post.
I said that Serbians admit that they did bad things, but are furious how they are only ones to be blamed always, when others were equally bad as well.
Oh and by the way, the rape numbers were pushed up a lot so it could serve as propaganda.
You will never understand the situation unless you were directly involved in war because you will find bias/propaganda everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Oh I know the war pretty well. My childhood was forced poverty in Kupljensko and the only reason I even have a computer to type on today was because someone was nice enough to pay for my family to go to America.
Oh, so you will probably be against Serbs then since Kupljensko was in former Republic of Serb Krajina.
History shouldn't be touched for at least 50 years after the event, so there would be no bias at all, but it looks like Yugoslavian war has too many untold stories and biased ones.
Also, this thread is getting derailed.
KFOR said that ROSA has time to retreat until the morning, we will see the outcome in few hours.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;31359590]Oh, so you will probably be against Serbs then since Kupljensko was in former Republic of Serb Krajina.
History shouldn't be touched for at least 50 years after the event, so there would be no bias at all, but it looks like Yugoslavian war has too many untold stories and biased ones.
Also, this thread is getting derailed.
KFOR said that ROSA has time to retreat until the morning, we will see the outcome in few hours.[/QUOTE]
Kupljensko was a refugee camp. I wasn't born there.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;31346756]we messed it up[/QUOTE]
All the blame goes on England and France.
The US just poked the dead buzzard left behind with a stick to see if it was alive.
[QUOTE=Swilly;31360851]All the blame goes on England and France.
The US just poked the dead buzzard left behind with a stick to see if it was alive.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I'm pretty sure if your going to blame an entire country at all it would be the Dutch and yourselves. As they were the only ones that come to mind making bad decisions during the wars. The Dutch divison for indirectly allowing the Srebrenica massacre, and yourselves for bombing Belgrade. But then again blaming an entire country for the mistakes of a few men is rather shortsighted and aggravationist. The Buzzard was very much alive when it was poked buddy.
Also in regard to the Ethnic cleansing and such. The Serbians were not the only ones to blame, every ethnic group took part in it in some form or another. And it was not really just the military doing the crime (although Mladic's Bosniak Serb army was really trying hard) it was the various paramilitary's running about on all sides. Although to be fair "Arkani's Tigrovi" or the Serb Volunteer Guard are the most known for the shame. The Albanian UCK in Kosovo were also infamous for cruelty.
There's no black and white when it comes to this war, just shades of grey.
[QUOTE=Swilly;31360851]All the blame goes on England and France.
The US just poked the dead buzzard left behind with a stick to see if it was alive.[/QUOTE]
About Kosovo, mostly US is the only one the blame why it's so shitty and we have this shit happen in it today.
this sucks
i've been to kosovo to visit family but i really dont know what to say about this at all
[QUOTE=ewitwins;31353907]So basically... the Baltics are a gigantic clusterfuck?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/baltic.gif[/img]
Coming from the proud nation of Latvia, i can ask you this...WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT !?
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfM4Z70OA5w&feature=related]'This is what people in Serbia actually believe'[/url]
[QUOTE=critein_protein;31366677][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfM4Z70OA5w&feature=related]'This is what people in Serbia actually believe'[/url][/QUOTE]Oh so enlightening.
Serbia was pretty batshit extreme baddie in the whole Yugoslavia split war. Now it's part of them vs the rest of them... Who... What...
-snip-, it will make shitstorm.
It's funny how everyone knows how Serbia did things yet nobody knows about things that Bosniaks, Croats and Albanians did to Serbs.
1 out of 3 vids about the lies of the western media about the war.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKYhaQ3gbsA[/url]
if war breaks out I hope my cousins in south kosovo will be alright...
If I enlist, I know where I'm requesting to sent to. Always wanted to visit eastern europe :v:
So apparently NATO reported that Serbians fired on Croatian peacekeeping helicopters.
And this is from Croatian Dnevnik
[quote=Croatian user on image board]The croatian officer in charge of our thirty guys there said that:
- The helicopter crew did not report being fired at
- There was no damage on the helicopter
- The helicopter did not carry Šiptars
- The report that "a croatian helicopter was fired at" was filed by some unknown person on the ground
- The officer said that "there was probably no shots fired at all"
It's just hate mongering propaganda from some NATO fucks.[/quote]
They even forbid Serbia to enter United Nation's meeting and it's private meeting at the moment.
Gotta love how NATO and KFOR are supposed to be neutral yet they do everything against Serbians.
And don't tell me I'm blinded by propaganda and whatnot because it's true.
Also, I like how they don't report about 2 Serbian teenagers getting beaten up by Albanians in South Kosovo.
14 Albanians attacked Serbian teen at once, leaving him with cuts and in half conscious state.
Večernji List reports that KFOR is negotiating with the Serbs that blocked several routes in North Kosovo. Their primary request is that the border crossing should be controlled by Serbia.
According to the Serbian police the vandalism conducted on the border crossing Jarinje was organized by a Serbian smuggler boss who is known to the police.
If the negotiations satisfy both sides I doubt that the conflicts will escalate any further. National hate between the ex-Yugoslavian countries will continue to happen, though.
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