• Kojima: MGS 5 characters to be 'more erotic' to encourage cosplay
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[QUOTE=lintz;42097201]As of the moment, yes.[/QUOTE] Initially I thought it was gonna be something like military pants and bare upper body which would've been ok but this is just over the fucking top, I won't be able to take this seriously. Plus I live at home and if my mom walks in it will just be embarrasing :(
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;42097256]Initially I thought it was gonna be something like military pants and bare upper body which would've been ok but this is just over the fucking top, I won't be able to take this seriously. Plus I live at home and if my mom walks in it will just be embarrasing :([/QUOTE] do you even know what series youre talking about nobody takes metal gear seriously until right up the end of some of the games i mean jesus christ, and using "living at home" as an excuse as well?
[QUOTE=LeonS;42097335]do you even know what series youre talking about nobody takes metal gear seriously until right up the end of some of the games i mean jesus christ, and using "living at home" as an excuse as well?[/QUOTE] Whoa dude, relax. I've been playing MGS since I was a kid so yes, and the "living at home" was a joke, which I tried to make obvious with the smiley. It's not like I'm gonna lose sleep over this or anything, I just don't think the design is that good. Even if the aim is "sexy", I still think it could've been done better.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;42096911]Here's the same man on both covers. [IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/hosting/2013-09/2013-09-06_14-52-43.png[/IMG] On one side he's marketed to men, on the other to women. I'll let you guess which side is which![/QUOTE] TBH this isn't the best comparison. These are marketed to certain sub-demographics within the overarching general interests of men and women Personally I find male fitness magazines to be vaguely homoerotic, likewise there's plenty of women who would have their eyes caught by the magazine on the left. It's over-generalizing to say that a majority of women will gravitate to the magazine on the right while the majority of men will gravitate to the one of the left, when in reality they are simply being designed to appeal to specific types of men/women with specific eclectic interests; who don't necessarily represent the majority of the sex. [editline]6th September 2013[/editline] :eng101: Not defending the design of the character though, it's pretty stupid. What's strange is that they actually did a really good job on the head model. It looks like sort of an average girl; not unrealistic or poorly represented, but then you scroll down and it's like they slapped the body of a vegas stripper on her. Sort of a bizarre contrast
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;42096911]Here's the same man on both covers. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3797350/hosting/2013-09/2013-09-06_14-52-43.png[/img] On one side he's marketed to men, on the other to women. I'll let you guess which side is which![/QUOTE] As others have pointed out, the left is a fitness magazine, the right one is a housekeeping magazine. They have different audiences so it's not a fair comparison. And there are heavily muscular men on romance novels marketed to women like Desuh's post pointed out. So there are women out there who prefer heavily muscular men. But on the other hand to say all women prefer heavily muscular men is as generalizing as saying all men prefer women with large breasts, big butt, thin waist, etc. All I'm saying is pick a better example.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42096948]Wait, Kojima considers this 'more sexy' as opposed to just wankbait? Or good character design for a goddamn [b]sniper[/b]? [img]http://nl.ign.com/pictures/articles/5844/98200.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I just realized something. She has a fucking tiny head and sort of baby face, it almost looks like they bolted the head of a 10 year old girl to a woman's body, its uncanny Also she's wearing her panties on the wrong side of her panty hose.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;42096986](Actual spoilers:) [sp]Fortune actually has powers and she saves everyone from getting bombed to hell in MGS2. Still, if you're saying they're weak due to their boss fights you could easily say the same about the men of Metal Gear. Big Boss got burnt to death with hairspray and a lighter.[/sp][/QUOTE] I know that, and it was a joke. Yeah, how did that even happen? That's the weirdest way to kill what should be a freaking legend...
[QUOTE=dass;42105134]I know that, and it was a joke. Yeah, how did that even happen? That's the weirdest way to kill what should be a freaking legend...[/QUOTE] Because Solid Snake is an even bigger badass.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;42105243]Because Solid Snake is an even bigger badass.[/QUOTE] factually incorrect
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Might have been said on other pages but if you want to encourage cosplay you need to make them [I]more[/I] appropriate and [I]less[/I] complicated. The more embarrassing or difficult it is to cosplay a character, the less likely somebody is willing to do it.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;42106209]Might have been said on other pages but if you want to encourage cosplay you need to make them [I]more[/I] appropriate and [I]less[/I] complicated. The more embarrassing or difficult it is to cosplay a character, the less likely somebody is willing to do it.[/QUOTE] A bra, thong, some straps and a holster, ripped stockings, seems pretty easy really, way more than the clusterfuck costumes in previous games. As for encouraging it, pretty presumptuous to say women find dressing sexy embarrassing. There's already a few good [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRV61n7MbU4]cosplayers[/url] and you think they give a fuck? Not everyone's a prude.
[QUOTE=dass;42105134]I know that, and it was a joke. Yeah, how did that even happen? That's the weirdest way to kill what should be a freaking legend...[/QUOTE] I guess Solid Snake stood on his blind side and took advantage of his age.
if you think this is oversexualized please leave your house and take a stroll through town and THEN tell me this is way more sexual than 99% of the shit you see in western society
[QUOTE=Mastahamma;42109518]if you think this is oversexualized please leave your house and take a stroll through town and THEN tell me this is way more sexual than 99% of the shit you see in western society[/QUOTE] But objectification of women and all that...
[QUOTE=itisjuly;42109800]But objectification of women and all that...[/QUOTE] Usually not a good thing but this is the game series where the director told the modellers to make sure that one protagonists ass was rounder than the other.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;42106209]Might have been said on other pages but if you want to encourage cosplay you need to make them [I]more[/I] appropriate and [I]less[/I] complicated. The more embarrassing or difficult it is to cosplay a character, the less likely somebody is willing to do it.[/QUOTE] not really no if you ever seen a cosplayer or been to any convention, they make non sexual costumes more sexualized because they think it's hot i know a lot of cosplayers and they wouldn't care if it was just a bra thong and stockings and it's not even that they're promiscuous they're not, they just like the attention [editline]7th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;42109800]But objectification of women and all that...[/QUOTE] mgs games are one of the games where women are clearly not objectified or owned and have as many goals as their male counterparts
[QUOTE=Mastahamma;42109518]if you think this is oversexualized please leave your house and take a stroll through town and THEN tell me this is way more sexual than 99% of the shit you see in western society[/QUOTE] have you ever been outside
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;42109889]not really no if you ever seen a cosplayer or been to any convention, they make non sexual costumes more sexualized because they think it's hot i know a lot of cosplayers and they wouldn't care if it was just a bra thong and stockings and it's not even that they're promiscuous they're not, they just like the attention [editline]7th September 2013[/editline] mgs games are one of the games where women are clearly not objectified or owned and have as many goals as their male counterparts[/QUOTE] fighting in a battlefield = surviving in a hot day in suburban america unless kojima explains it in the game (which he probably will but don't get your hopes up) there's practically no justification for wearing only underwear, stockings, and boots out in the middle of [I]AFGHANISTAN.[/I] also good job generalizing pretty much every cosplayer. statements like that are why people are so self conscious about cosplaying at conventions, lol.
[QUOTE=dass;42093894]No they aren't lol Mistral is one of the easiest bosses in MGR Sniper Wolf gets her shit handed to herself while you're fucking hidden shooting either rockets or bullets at her and laughing about it Meryl is a tryhard newb for most of MGS Fortune needs an electromagnetic field generator to actually be worth 2 damns in a fight and The Boss gets her shit kicked in from her own student in a fisty cuffs fight Everyone else you don't fight either dies or goes back to a rural town off the charts Except Sunny. She's building motherfucking space shuttles. :v:[/QUOTE] Gotta MASSIVELY disagree with your deduction there. Sniper Wolf blows the everloving fuck out of Meryl, and is shown to kick Snake's ass until he gets the upper hand of a playing field where Wolf is disadvantaged (Snow. She's a kurd, so she's obviously not directly used to it.) Prior to that, Meryl has been, up to that point, surprisingly brave in the face of overwhelming and dangerous odds. (even clever enough to disguise as the enemy) Fortune doesn't "need" the EM field generator. Even after she loses it and gets shot in the lung, she manages to put up a good enough fight against Ocelot, something that no character except Snake has done at that point. The Boss absolutely PUMMELS Snake in CQC unless you are VERY particular in your counters. She went into space without any protective gear and survived. And was also shot in the damn head, and survived. And gave birth during normandy, and survived. Naomi basically wins the Vamp fight for Snake and Raiden. Rosemary keeps Raiden, and in MGS4, Snake, alive, sane, and fighting, giving them both a reason to survive. EVA is the solitary reason that Naked Snake survives his assault on Groznyj Grad, without her he would have had no escape route and have died when the MiGS bomb the place. She also gives Snake solid info from that point on, too, and [I]births the fucking Snake clones.[/I] Paz singlehandedly deceives one of the best motherfucking infiltrators on the planet and his entire crew, and gets away with it for the most part. Strangelove is one of the strongest-willed and smartest women in the scientific field, and is even better than Huey Emmerich. creator of the FIRST FUCKING METAL GEAR. She recreated The Boss, the most baddest of asses in all of MG history, as a mutually-assured-destruction AI.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;42110050]fighting in a battlefield = surviving in a hot day in suburban america unless kojima explains it in the game (which he probably will but don't get your hopes up) there's practically no justification for wearing only underwear, stockings, and boots out in the middle of [I]AFGHANISTAN.[/I] also good job generalizing pretty much every cosplayer. statements like that are why people are so self conscious about cosplaying at conventions, lol.[/QUOTE] saying no one would cosplay them is just as big of a generalization
Give solid snake boobs, open up all the cosplays
[QUOTE=AaronM202;42105243]Because Solid Snake is an even bigger badass.[/QUOTE] Finally someone who gives a fuck about Solid Snake. No love at all ;_;
[url]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424191664222208[/url] [url]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424308077109248[/url] [url]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424398023962624[/url] Words from based Kojima.
^I have no clue as to what he is talking about.
[QUOTE=BaguetteThug;42111763]^I have no clue as to what he is talking about.[/QUOTE] He's not the best with the english. [editline]7th September 2013[/editline] That reminds me, sometimes, using google translate on his japanese twitter actually results in a better translation :v:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/n4Ihj7i.png[/IMG] edit: [QUOTE=SlightReturn;42111599][URL]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424191664222208[/URL] [URL]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424308077109248[/URL] [URL]https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/376424398023962624[/URL] Words from based Kojima.[/QUOTE] This person beat me, rate him instead. I'll leave my post up since there's more tweets than he linked.
That's either a REALLY good saving throw, or Kojima is a fucking chessmaster.
I really don't see the problem with this. Is there suddenly something wrong with liking to look at very attractive women? (In-game or at conventions) I have never met a woman in real life who thinks it's wrong for a guy to look at hot chicks (unless he's in a relationship, but even then some disagree)
[QUOTE=Wii60;42115944][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/n4Ihj7i.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Did you rike it?
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