[QUOTE=TheTalon;46714639]It's a pain in the ass, in all honesty. But in a place where 9/10 the houses have firearms, it's too late to go the gunless way, so might as well stay on a level playing field, as I see it
Also, the coverage of this is so alien to me. FOX news wants to tell you what they think and what you should think, CNN will pull Fred the local Homeless guy and ask him to speculate on the situation, and you only get 10 seconds of facts after a commercial break before they go back into News-Creation. Here it's just been mostly facts and actual fucking info[/QUOTE]
Welcome to real media
In other news apparently the shout heard was just an unrelated muslim man trying to get his car, and media swarmed him??
Can we like, get back on topic?
Any updates?
[QUOTE=Apache249;46714565]It's a [I]siege[/I] taking place in [I]Sydney.[/I][/QUOTE]
The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcombe_Street_siege]Balcombe Street siege[/url], the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis]Moscow Theater siege[/url], or the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege]Waco siege[/url], sure. But this doesn't hold a candle to any of those incidents.
[QUOTE=Apache249;46714650]And religion[/QUOTE]
Well...it is the motivation for the whole situation.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;46714665]Can we like, get back on topic?
Any updates?[/QUOTE]
I've been watching the stream non-stop and nothing seems to have changed in the past hour or so.
2GB radio is talking to a hostage from inside the cafe, who was being forced to talk
Supposedly.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;46714665]Can we like, get back on topic?
Any updates?[/QUOTE]
Nope, speculation is police are going to draw this out to fatigue the hostage taker but that's just what 7 is saying
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;46714669]Well...it is the motivation for the whole situation.[/QUOTE]
Speculated
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[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;46714665]Can we like, get back on topic?
Any updates?[/QUOTE]
Waiting on the NSW Police Commissioner and NSW Premier to hold a news conference...
Expected to be at approximately 1:30pm AEDT
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46714673]2GB radio is talking to a hostage from inside the cafe, who was being forced to talk
Supposedly.[/QUOTE]
Something tells me that's not authentic because its been a trend recently to fuck around with talk show radio programmes
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46714668]The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcombe_Street_siege]Balcombe Street siege[/url], the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis]Moscow Theater siege[/url], or the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege]Waco siege[/url], sure. But this doesn't hold a candle to any of those incidents.[/QUOTE]
So it's a smaller scale incident. It's still a siege. What's your point?
[QUOTE=Brandy92;46714679]The hostage takers are way in over their heads.
Their apparent train of thought was: take hostages > demand to speak to Abbott > ???????
They probably have no idea what to do next.[/QUOTE]
The American(?) ABC24 had on an hour and half ago or so may have been right in saying that the raids conducted earlier may have forced this guy's hand to do something, unprepared
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46714690]The American(?) ABC24 had on an hour and half ago or so may have been right in saying that the raids conducted earlier may have forced this guy's hand to do something, unprepared[/QUOTE]
ABC is Australian
Australian broadcasting corporation
Please don't mix the good Australian ABC with the shit American ABC
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46714696]ABC is Australian
Australian broadcasting corporation
Please don't mix the good Australian ABC with the shit American ABC[/QUOTE]
The dude had an American accent
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46714701]The dude had an American accent[/QUOTE]
Your accentometer needs calibration, mate
NSW Police Commissioner and NSW Premier will hold a news conference shortly.
[b][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvzpSvyyZis]Tune in here LIVE.[/url][/b]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46714701]The dude had an American accent[/QUOTE]
They've got an American commentator to give snippets of analysis. Except he's wildly speculative and not very good
-snip, continuing arguments from page 1, shouldve read ahead-
Fuck my girlfriend had a job interview for that cafe a few months ago. Glad she didn't get the job.
i was going to go to the NSW art gallery today but it's closed because of this. hope it ends well though
And of course all the xenophobes come out of the woodwork in response to this.
My facebook feed's blowing up with people going on and on about how all muslims should be deported or shot on sight for their religion.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;46714715]Fuck my girlfriend had a job interview for that cafe a few months ago. Glad she didn't get the job.[/QUOTE]
Far out.
My Sister who works at CH 7 (opposite the cafe) was in there yesterday morning around the time it happened. So glad she didn't go in this morning!
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;46714723]And of course all the xenophobes come out of the woodwork in response to this.
My facebook feed's blowing up with people going on and on about how all muslims should be deported or shot on sight for their religion.[/QUOTE]
You should probably tune out for the next week or so. It'll only get worse
[QUOTE=Apache249;46714686]So it's a smaller scale incident. It's still a siege. What's your point?[/QUOTE]
the waco siege had something like a dozen heavily armed crazies and about fifty more with an unknown amount of munitions against a fbi squad before the advent of real negotiation tactics. there was a lot of gunfire and the whole place burnt down after a fifty day standoff. this is one or two people in a coffee shop, albeit with innocent hostages instead of a cult following.
they're not comparable in the sense of the number of armed assailants involved and timescale, but both places are most definitely under siege.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46714712]So he's from the American Media. Pretty much par for the course.[/QUOTE]
ABC has international correspondents affiliated with networks like PBS, CBC, BBC, ITV and so on so
Horrible seeing the people who have their hands on the window shaking terribly with fear
News Ltd reporter who was having a coffee on one of the outside tables of the cafe being interviewed.
[QUOTE=Apache249;46714675]Speculated[/QUOTE]
I'm no detective but the flag that reads "There is no God but Allah" and "Mohammed is the messenger of God" would make it more than speculation for me...
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;46714739]I'm no detective but the flag that reads "There is no God but Allah" and "Mohammed is the messenger of God" would make it more than speculation for me...[/QUOTE]
Same shit is written on the Saudi flag
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