[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46716548]On the news they said that the Muslim community is afraid of revenge hate crimes. For a second I thought that was silly and unlikely, and then I remembered there are people like you.[/QUOTE]
Remember, hate crimes would happen with any religious group if people in the religion started taking their holy book literally.
[QUOTE=Killergam;46716558]Typing on a phone never leads to perfect grammar Mr nazi.[/QUOTE]
your point is still fucking stupid
Man, the Media has video of him from a hostage, and his demands, and the guy's name, but they're not releasing it because they were asked not to. Over here, FOX and CNN would be having an orgasm knowing they have that info and pushing it out ASAP
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46716549]this is one crazy guy. not all of Islam. every group of people always have crazies. condemning an entire group because of a minority of extremists is disgusting
you could say the same about any christian who follows the bible militantly and literally. it's the individuals, not the religion as a whole[/QUOTE]
One crazy extremist..... are you ignorant?
Please go google ISIS, it's an extremist [I][U]GROUP[/U][/I]
It doesn't fucking look small or not serious,
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[QUOTE=Subby;46716577]One crazy extremist..... are you ignorant?
Please go google ISIS, it's an extremist [I][U]GROUP[/U][/I]
It doesn't fucking look small or not serious,[/QUOTE]
yeah, and compare their numbers to the peaceful islamics
condemn Isis, not Islam.
[QUOTE=Subby;46716577]One crazy extremist..... are you ignorant?
Please go google ISIS, it's an extremist [I][U]GROUP[/U][/I]
It doesn't fucking look small or not serious,[/QUOTE]
ISIS does not represent every Muslim, I'm getting sick and tired of your islamophobia
So nobodys gonna answer my question? :(
[QUOTE=Milkdairy;46716594]So nobodys gonna answer my question? :([/QUOTE]
Sorry, I'm not overly familiar with military gear.
Are you talking about these guys though?:
[QUOTE=Brandy92;46713648]NSW State Protection Group is all over Martin Place.
These are the guys,[B] images from previous incident[/B].
[IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/12/20/1226787/774077-2c5c65e8-692b-11e3-bdad-d26236de09de.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/12/20/1226787/648132-1022dcb8-692b-11e3-bdad-d26236de09de.jpg[/IMG]
This should end relatively soon.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit watching Live Stream feels like watching action movie. Except some unexpected shit can happen any second.
[QUOTE=Milkdairy;46716594]So nobodys gonna answer my question? :([/QUOTE]
Most likely TAG East, or a squad of soldiers with lots of experience/training for this situation
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_assault_group[/url]
Been following this incident on and off, it's a damn shame. We'll see what comes out of all this.
Additionally; I have an Aussie friend on FB who, of all things, used to post some borderline racist stuff - I say borderline, because she's pretty picky about the words she uses, but you can definitely tell what she really meant.
She's been mysteriously quiet these days. I really hope she doesn't go full-on racist. :/
A lot of Australians have started a campaign called "I'll Ride With You", where they ride on public transport with Muslims, to prevent any hate from people who are making generalisations or links to the incident.
Australia seriously amazes me sometimes with how nice they can be.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46716585]ISIS does not represent every Muslim, I'm getting sick and tired of your islamophobia[/QUOTE]
Sure but let's not forget the fact that the amount of Muslims with radical views is actually huge especially when compare to other religions. That's just normal for Islam, you can paint it however you like but moderates are the minority.
[QUOTE=antimonycat;46713479]What will it take for people to finally realise that Islam is the problem? NO other religion is as violent as this.[/QUOTE]
Never post again.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46716585]ISIS does not represent every Muslim, I'm getting sick and tired of your islamophobia[/QUOTE]
Where in any of his posts does he refer to "Every" member of Islam? He's talking about the extremist individuals of the religion? I'm getting sick and tired of idiots on this forum attacking individuals whenever they bring up a criticism against the extremists who make a religion look bad. I bet you'll attack me for the same thing too. Grow up and Rusty, that wasn't xenophobia so stop being such a shit mod (Also your film tastes are horrible).
Back on topic, I really hope this ass doesn't kill anyone. No innocents need to die because of some idiot's extremist views.
Those reporters ask some stupid shit.
The guy said he can't say how many or who is in the cafe, very next question, "Who's in there?"
[QUOTE=Buck.;46716615]Sure but let's not forget the fact that the amount of Muslims with radical views is actually huge especially when compare to other religions.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, an [URL="http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/232101/american-who-helped-craft-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill-to-be-tried-for-crimes-against-humanity/"]American pastor who helped craft the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda will be tried for crimes against humanity[/URL].
If anything, ISIS are head to head against Christian missionaries in Africa, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;46716631]Last time I checked, an [URL="http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/232101/american-who-helped-craft-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill-to-be-tried-for-crimes-against-humanity/"]American pastor who helped craft the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda will be tried for crimes against humanity[/URL].
If anything, ISIS are head to head against Christian missionaries in Africa, IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Multiple individuals =/= One person.
Pic of hostage turning off lights:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RfdWBqz.png[/img]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46716626]Those reporters ask some stupid shit.
The guy said he can't say how many or who is in the cafe, very next question, "Who's in there?"[/QUOTE]
Doesn't help the media keep tampering with the Australian police's operations..
[QUOTE=CaptainObvious1;46716640]Doesn't help the media keep tampering with the Australian police's operations..[/QUOTE]
I get that they don't want to release tactics or operational details, but some of it is just ridiculous.
At one point a reporter asked something like "There have been posts of the leaked demands online. Will you be releasing a statement?"
to which the response was basically 'yeah, it's out there, you know what it is, I know what it is, but I'm not gonna say it'
Seems a bit childish
I cant believe this is still going on, I hope that the hostages are released safely and that the perpetrator gets whats coming to him.
It could last a while, but surely no more than another day or day and a half tops. The guy can't stay awake forever
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;46716648]I get that they don't want to release tactics or operational details, but some of it is just ridiculous.
At one point a reporter asked something like "There have been posts of the leaked demands online. Will you be releasing a statement?"
to which the response was basically 'yeah, it's out there, you know what it is, I know what it is, but I'm not gonna say it'
Seems a bit childish[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure they didn't just want to say "we haven't had time to verify those claims, so don't be so fast to believe that bullshit"
I saw this thread ''posted 9 hours ago'' and when i skipped to the last page I was shocked, so it's still going on? Still hostage for 11 hours straight?
[QUOTE=Siemz;46716667]I saw this thread ''posted 9 hours ago'' and when i skipped to the last page I was shocked, so it's still going on? Still hostage for 11 hours straight?[/QUOTE]
Yep. Still going on, and police are setting up areas making it look like it'll be going on for another while yet.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;46716657]It could last a while, but surely no more than another day or day and a half tops. The guy can't stay awake forever[/QUOTE]
Assuming it is one guy
[QUOTE=Rusty100;46716549]this is one crazy guy. not all of Islam. every group of people always have crazies. condemning an entire group because of a minority of extremists is disgusting
you could say the same about any christian who follows the bible militantly and literally. it's the individuals, not the religion as a whole[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but the extremist do seem to be coming out on top over there, it's not like they have a small following.
That situation is just so fucked I honestly don't know what to make of it, but I do know the good guys aren't coming out on top right now and it's a damn shame. I mean in the grand scheme of things as they are now by the way, not this one (or more?) psycho(s) in Australia.
[QUOTE=Siemz;46716667]I saw this thread ''posted 9 hours ago'' and when i skipped to the last page I was shocked, so it's still going on? Still hostage for 11 hours straight?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hostage_crises[/url]
Look at the durations. Note that most are given in number of days.
After 11 hours, I'm sure it's just one guy
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