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[QUOTE=redBadger;45106567]Since when did face punch support battling in foreign land[/QUOTE] People here support intervention in situations where it is beneficial to most people. When you have a group going around taking over parts of the world someone needs to do something. Especially when people (ie the Iraqi government) are begging for help.
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;45099460]We should definitely blow the shit out of ISIS while we can, but there is no way Obama is going to get the people's support just because of how ignorant Americans are of the situation since it doesn't directly involve us. Hopefully he just gives the go-ahead anyway, fuck it, he's not looking for reelection.[/QUOTE] Frankly? Iraq had a stable, safe government under Saddam Hussein, and the people there enjoyed a degree of comfort and security, before the US invaded and destroyed everything. They practically rolled out the red carpet for the ISIS, and they goddamn well knew it would happen. I'd say it's cowardly to pull back now, but the truth is they've done enough damage already. Afghanistan was a wealthy, relatively cosmopolitan place to live before the Soviets invaded it in the 1980s. I think I see a pattern here.
where the fuck did isis come from? i've only seen them in the news this week.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;45107980]where the fuck did isis come from? i've only seen them in the news this week.[/QUOTE] watch more and better news ??? they've been in international news for years you pleb
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45108003]We're american, all we know regarding worldwide news is that they "found the missing plane except not really check back tomorrow" Oh and generic "mass" shooting #16368[/QUOTE] you have an internet connection and no excuse
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45108019] god you don't understand the plight of us americans[/QUOTE] Sometimes when I clap I have guns in my hands and they accidentally discharge.
[QUOTE=archangel125;45107897]Frankly? Iraq had a stable, safe government under Saddam Hussein, and the people there enjoyed a degree of comfort and security, before the US invaded and destroyed everything. They practically rolled out the red carpet for the ISIS, and they goddamn well knew it would happen. I'd say it's cowardly to pull back now, but the truth is they've done enough damage already. Afghanistan was a wealthy, relatively cosmopolitan place to live before the Soviets invaded it in the 1980s. I think I see a pattern here.[/QUOTE] He fucking gassed the Kurds.
[QUOTE=Apache249;45108058]He fucking gassed the Kurds.[/QUOTE] Also Saddam's son's were in charge of roving death squads that killed pretty much anyone interested in opposing the Baath party. Iraq under Saddam was certainly more stable than it has been since but to call the state "comfortable" for the vast majority of citizens is a bit much.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45108070]Also Saddam's son's were in charge of roving death squads that killed pretty much anyone interested in opposing the Baath party. Iraq under Saddam was certainly more stable than it has been since but to call the state "comfortable" for the vast majority of citizens is a bit much.[/QUOTE] You'll find the invasion of Iraq by the US in 2003 has killed more Iraqi civilians to date than Saddam could ever have accomplished with the Kurds. I'd like to add one last thing. You'd be surprised to know who sold him those weapons.
[QUOTE=archangel125;45108098]You'll find the invasion of Iraq by the US in 2003 has killed more Iraqi civilians to date than Saddam could ever have accomplished with the Kurds. I'd like to add one last thing. You'd be surprised to know who sold him those weapons.[/QUOTE] Reagan. Who also sold arms to the Iranians-For them to sell to the Contras for the contras to use to export Cocaine to give a war on drugs to fight. Reagans foreign policy was to throw arms at everyone and everything, terrorists, nations, it didn't matter. He was scum and everything he did was extremely short sighted.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45106598]Since people realized that we've become so globalized that we can't just bury our heads in the sand and say "la la la not our problem la la la". The days of one countries problems being their own are over. Every countries problems affect every other country due to how interdependent we've become.[/QUOTE]If a country is having a civil war over the corruptness of the government, that's their problem leave them be (ie. Vietnam). If a terrorist organisation is attacking and mass murdering thousands of innocents and threatening to invade much of the world, world police needs to step in a bit.
[QUOTE=AhoyMate;45100898]Have you guys seen this? [IMG]http://www.stargazete.com/imgsdisk/2014/06/13/130620141327417154022_2.jpg[/IMG] I just hope that we'll get a good chance to cleanse those arabs now. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling / Creep / Advocating mass genocide" - Swebonny))[/highlight][/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure I'm in the black part of that map
Then soon you will be part of the glorious Islamic Caliphate, rejoice brother.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;45108638]Reagan. Who also sold arms to the Iranians-For them to sell to the Contras for the contras to use to export Cocaine to give a war on drugs to fight. Reagans foreign policy was to throw arms at everyone and everything, terrorists, nations, it didn't matter. He was scum and everything he did was extremely short sighted.[/QUOTE] It pains me that I have friends who see Reagan and Bush as the best presidents ever. :/
I applaud the Obama Administration and the foreign military policy of the American government; to escape the perceptions that US interventionism is undesired and detrimental. It is interesting how Obama has stated that he would be withdrawing troops (or military operations I can't exactly remember) in Iraq and Afghanistan within a certain duration of time within his presidency. Though look at it now. Amazing. I guess that with instability of a pro-US government and the rise of insurgency is enough to make us dismissive of Obama's statements. It is understandable that no one can predict the future and no one could really foresee these issues that arose from the initial war in 2003, but to intervene when one has specifically stated the opposite has left me with an urge to commend them; for their ability to do whatever the fuck they want.
[QUOTE=Arctic Snow;45111157]I applaud the Obama Administration and the foreign military policy of the American government; to escape the perceptions that US interventionism is undesired and detrimental. It is interesting how Obama has stated that he would be withdrawing troops (or military operations I can't exactly remember) in Iraq and Afghanistan within a certain duration of time within his presidency. Though look at it now. Amazing. I guess that with instability of a pro-US government and the rise of insurgency is enough to make us dismissive of Obama's statements. It is understandable that no one can predict the future and no one could really foresee these issues that arose from the initial war in 2003, but to intervene when one has specifically stated the opposite has left me with an urge to commend them; for their ability to do whatever the fuck they want.[/QUOTE] If Iraq is lost to the Isis it will be very very bad. Plus were not putting boots on ground. Us is going to more then likely providing air support and bombing the ever living fuck out of the Isis. I would rather we do this then nothing at all becaae the Isis are fucking extreme compared to other terror organizations
[QUOTE=MR-X;45111638]If Iraq is lost to the Isis it will be very very bad. Plus were not putting boots on ground. Us is going to more then likely providing air support and bombing the ever living fuck out of the Isis. I would rather we do this then nothing at all becaae the Isis are fucking extreme compared to other terror organizations[/QUOTE] The US can never 'win' the monstrosity of the situation in Iraq. They'll send in drones and air support for like what a couples weeks? couple of months? years? (btw thanks for giving us an estimation of how long it will take Obama, because now military operations can continue for a perpetual length of time) And after all of that what is to become of Iraq? A incompetent, underfunded and underequipped government is erected until they fall again? Do they assume that these selective bombings will just suddenly stop the menace of insurgency? I think not, I think after the air bombings and military operations being to cease, there will be an increase in insurgency. We're gonna come out of this like the day the US military got out of Iraq a couple of years ago. All the insurgents have to do is to withhold any attacks and wait for the US to leave, then they can regain power. It is an uncontrollable cycle. Though I feel bad for the Obama administration too, either the US provides military assistance to Iraq and to which they will receive resentment for being 'imperialistic', or they may not intervene and to which will be blamed with not saving the lives of Iraqis and being 'isolationists'. It's a catch 22, whatever the stance, their still gonna get shit for it.
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