Scott Brown Tries Balancing Act as Tea Party Favorite in a Blue State
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[QUOTE=Not Tishler;21336309]I'm in a country with UHC, I know.
how does UHC factor into this.[/QUOTE]
If you didn't know, Obama has been trying to get UHC
:downs:
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336313]Prove to me that I am.
You have better luck convincing a Scientologist that they're brainwashed than you do me.[/QUOTE]
I know you're brainwashed because motherfucking [I]Glenn Beck[/I], of all people, has convinced you that Barack Obama is a Marxist.
Fun fact: In the Communist Manifesto, Marx said that communism needed a violent revolution of the working class. Until that happens, shut the fuck up about Marxism.
I like Scott Brown, he drives a Truck and so do I.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336313][QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21336211]Please explain to me how Barack Obama's policies are like Marxism.
While you're at it, also prove that you aren't brainwashed.
:munch:[/QUOTE]
Prove to me that I am.
You have better luck convincing a Scientologist that they're brainwashed than you do me.[/QUOTE]
Burden of proof is on you Glaber
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21336275]Please define Marxism.[/QUOTE]
[quote=wikipedia]Marxism is a particular political philosophy, economic and sociological worldview based upon a materialist interpretation of history, a Marxist analysis of capitalism, a theory of social change, and an atheist view of human liberation derived from the work of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. The three primary aspects of Marxism are:
1. The dialectical and materialist concept of history — Humankind's history is fundamentally that of the struggle between social classes. The productive capacity of society is the foundation of society, and as this capacity increases over time the social relations of production, class relations, evolve through this struggle of the classes and pass through definite stages (primitive communism, slavery, feudalism, capitalism). The legal, political, ideological and other aspects (e.g. art) of society are derived from these production relations as is the consciousness of the individuals of which the society is composed.
2. The critique of capitalism — In capitalist society, an economic minority (the bourgeoisie) dominate and exploit the working class (proletariat) majority. Marx uncovered the interworkings of capitalist exploitation, the specific way in which unpaid labor (surplus value) is extracted from the working class (the labor theory of value), extending and critiquing the work of earlier political economists on value. Although the production process is socialized, ownership remains in the hand of the bourgeoisie. This forms the fundamental contradiction of capitalist society. Without the elimination of the fetter of the private ownership of the means of production, human society is unable to achieve further development.
3. Advocacy of proletarian revolution — In order to overcome the fetters of private property the working class must seize political power internationally through a social revolution and expropriate the capitalist classes around the world and place the productive capacities of society into collective ownership. Upon this, material foundation classes would be abolished and the material basis for all forms of inequality between humankind would dissolve.
Contemporarily, Karl Marx’s innovative analytical methods — materialist dialectics, the labour theory of value, et cetera — are applied in archaeology, anthropology,[1] media studies,[2] political science, theater, history, sociological theory, cultural studies, education, economics, geography, literary criticism, aesthetics, critical psychology, and philosophy.[3][/quote]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism[/url]
Thank you Wikipedia
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336207]Redistributing the wealth, the major job markets growing are in government.
Glen should have better examples. But chances are you wouldn't even give him the time of day.[/QUOTE]
bahahahahahhahahahahahahha
that's not marxism
at all
hahahahah
look up social democracy kay
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336207]
Redistributing the wealth, the major job markets growing are in government.
Glen should have better examples. But chances are you wouldn't even give him the time of day.[/QUOTE]
He's not, and that grammatically doesn't make sense.
are you implying the job market for federal workers is rising? So what? it raises unemployment, shit gets done, and the benefits happen to be damn good.
Glenn literally makes shit up
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336398][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism[/URL]
Thank you Wikipedia[/QUOTE]
no, I want you to actually read those words and understand them, not just copy and paste them
point out, specifically, where marx espouses "big government"
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336398][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism[/URL]
Thank you Wikipedia[/QUOTE]
you whine about people using wikipedia, then you use wikipedia?
lol
there's different sects of marxism you tool. Wikipedia generalizes.
[QUOTE=Not Tishler;21336431]you whine about people using wikipedia, then you use wikipedia?
lol
there's different sects of marxism you tool. Wikipedia generalizes.[/QUOTE]
that's not the issue. The issue is that he characterizes marxism as this political philosophy of "government control" and "big government" when in all actuality, marxist philosophy advocates nothing like that
The american right wing does not know the definition of Marxism. They throw the word around like nobody's business, but they cannot properly define it.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336398][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism[/url]
Thank you Wikipedia[/QUOTE]
From what you posted, Obama is definitely not a Marxist.
Part 1 says that history has been shaped by class warfare. Marx was an advocate for the working class. Obama is a member of the upper class by a fair margin. Part 3 says that for communism to happen, there needs to be a revolution of the proletariat. Unless Barry Obama is suddenly a working-class American starting a violent revolution, that shit ain't happenin'.
lol Glaber just stop posting.
What's the point of this thread? Brown isn't as loved as Fox wants him to be?
Sean Hannity, Fox News, and Glenn Beck...legit resources? Tea Party, supportive?
I'd hate to be a dick but, I'm trying so hard not to laugh.
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;21336516]What's the point of this thread? Brown isn't as loved as Fox wants him to be?[/QUOTE]
I like him. He drives a Truck. I can directly relate to that.
[QUOTE=Glaber;21336117]If any thing, it's more like Marxism than Socialism.[/QUOTE]
hahaha oh wow
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21336525]I like him. He drives a Truck. I can directly relate to that.[/QUOTE]
No offense, but that may be one of the most retarded reasons for supporting someone that I can think of.
stop muckin up the thread guys, I want glaber to give me what his definition of marxism is so I can tell him, with citations, charts, and dancing clowns, exactly the ways in which he is wrong
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21336469]that's not the issue. The issue is that he characterizes marxism as this political philosophy of "government control" and "big government" when in all actuality, marxist philosophy advocates nothing like that
The american right wing does not know the definition of Marxism. They throw the word around like nobody's business, but they cannot properly define it.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jscSfkYTY2I[/media]
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21336543]No offense, but that may be one of the most retarded reasons for supporting someone that I can think of.[/QUOTE]
How so?
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21336589]How so?[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with his policies or anything remotely important to his style of politics.
[QUOTE=Not Tishler;21336571] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jscSfkYTY2I[/URL]
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THIS IS WHAT TEABAGGERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21336589]How so?[/QUOTE]
well for one thing trucks are very unsafe
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21336610]It has nothing to do with his policies or anything remotely important to his style of politics.[/QUOTE]
This video will explain;
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnZw6sm_yAY[/media]
Hitler
that is a sexy ad
It's effective advertisement, but I just generally like him and his policies.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;21336652]This video will explain;
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnZw6sm_yAY[/media][/QUOTE]
Ending business as usual? Sounds like the NDP over here, a left wing party
Isn't that crashtheteaparty website kind of self defeating? If all the racists, homophobes and morons in the tea party and just under-cover opposition, doesn't that kind of strengthen the tea party's stance?
I guess if you can't win by logic and open debate, you can always just resort to smear tactics. Obama himself recommends Rules for Radicals as suggested reading material.
[QUOTE=CriticalThought;21337261]I guess if you can't win by logic and open debate, you can always just resort to smear tactics. Obama himself recommends Rules for Radicals as suggested reading material.[/QUOTE]
Rules for Radicals never suggests smear tactics.
It's usually a good idea to know about things before you talk about them.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;21337307][QUOTE=CriticalThought;21337261]Isn't that crashtheteaparty website kind of self defeating? If all the racists, homophobes and morons in the tea party and just under-cover opposition, doesn't that kind of strengthen the tea party's stance?
I guess if you can't win by logic and open debate, you can always just resort to smear tactics. Obama himself recommends Rules for Radicals as suggested reading material.[/QUOTE]Rules for Radicals never suggests smear tactics.
It's usually a good idea to know about things before you talk about them.[/QUOTE]
That kid is either a Glaber sockpuppet or the most unintentionally ironic name of the milllenium.
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