I would go if I packed a shit ton of videogames, movies, porn, and had at least a few people and experts go with me that were acceptable people. Also some sort of communications support.
Seeing as that is probably not the case, the people who have the balls and or depression to go are fucking HEROS.
[QUOTE=shrektheturd2;40310518]i'd go if grrm finishes his books[/QUOTE]
On second thought, I now have one prerequisite for going :v:
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310311]I don't know if I'd go. It's a huge decision to make, you'd be permanently cutting yourself off from the people on Earth. No internet, no radio, no TV, no music, no phone calls to loved ones, you'd be reading the same books, and you wouldn't be able to wander far from your lander or risk running out of breathable air. Very little human contact - Aside from the two or three people that'd go with you, you'd never meet a new person again. For every last remaining day of your life.[/QUOTE]
But you'll be immortalized for the remainder of humanity's existence for being the first human being to set foot on another planet, another world floating through the vast emptiness of space of which you do not belong. A world that may not have had a living thing on it for many millions of years. It would dwarf the lunar landings
[QUOTE=TheTalon;40310552]But you'll be immortalized for the remainder of humanity's existence for being the first human being to set foot on another planet, another world floating through the vast emptiness of space of which you do not belong. It would dwarf the lunar landings[/QUOTE]
Aye, but what good would fame mean to me when I'm dead? Such a fate would seem to me worse than being imprisoned for life.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;40310552]But you'll be immortalized for the remainder of humanity's existence for being the first human being to set foot on another planet, another world floating through the vast emptiness of space of which you do not belong. It would dwarf the lunar landings[/QUOTE]
Who says you'd be the first?
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310562]Aye, but what good would fame mean to me when I'm dead? Such a fate would seem to me worse than being imprisoned for life.[/QUOTE]
We all die, but your name would be known by everyone, forever
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;40310565]Who says you'd be the first?[/QUOTE]
It's unlikely another mission would be sent before yours arrives and would get there before you do.
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[QUOTE=TheTalon;40310573]We all die, but your name would be known by everyone, forever[/QUOTE]
My parents, my brother, and the woman I love mean more to me today than such immortality. Were I alone in the world, I may have considered it. But I won't give up the comforts of human touch and a warm body in my bed for a frozen red desert and a tiny capsule.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;40310573]We all die, but your name would be known by everyone, forever[/QUOTE]But is immortality worth the death of mind and soul?
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310311]I don't know if I'd go. It's a huge decision to make, you'd be permanently cutting yourself off from the people on Earth. No internet, no radio, no TV, no music, no phone calls to loved ones, you'd be reading the same books, and you wouldn't be able to wander far from your lander or risk running out of breathable air. Very little human contact - Aside from the two or three people that'd go with you, you'd never meet a new person again. For every last remaining day of your life.[/QUOTE]
400 years ago, travelling across the Atlantic was the equivalent of Earth to Mars today.
Jamestown, Plymouth, St. Augustine, Quebec, Boston and Newfoundland were teeming with people willing to abandon their homeland and cross a sea where seldom others have bothered to cross. Many of them would never go back nor would they have much contact with their families or loved ones back in the Old World.
There's never going to be a shortage of people willing to start anew.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40310706]400 years ago, travelling across the Atlantic was the equivalent of Earth to Mars today.
Jamestown, Plymouth, St. Augustine, Quebec, Boston and Newfoundland were teeming with people willing to abandon their homeland and cross a sea where seldom others have bothered to cross. Many of them would never go back nor would they have much contact with their families or loved ones back in the Old World.
There's never going to be a shortage of people willing to start anew.[/QUOTE]
I only say this is different because the settlers who left had many, many of their own countrymen going with them. The rockets we can build today can only carry a very few.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310311]I don't know if I'd go. It's a huge decision to make, you'd be permanently cutting yourself off from the people on Earth. No internet, no radio, no TV, no music, no phone calls to loved ones, you'd be reading the same books, and you wouldn't be able to wander far from your lander or risk running out of breathable air. Very little human contact - Aside from the two or three people that'd go with you, you'd never meet a new person again. For every last remaining day of your life.[/QUOTE]
They want to send a few people every 2-3 years after the first ship arrives. At least that's what was mentioned in one of the articles I read.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;40310674]But is immortality worth the death of mind and soul?[/QUOTE]
Mind and soul will pass whether you like it or not.
Fame is the only immortality a man can survive into eternity with.
Einstein, Caesar, Hitler, Henry VIII, Bin Laden, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi - all immortal men, even though their bodies are long gone.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310745]I only say this is different because the settlers who left had many, many of their own countrymen going with them. The rockets we can build today can only carry a very few.[/QUOTE]
The Mayflower only had 102 people aboard.
The first Columbus voyage only had a total of 84 people aboard among [b]3 ships[/b]
A few dozen could barely count as many when you're off in a voyage where communication back home is virtually impossible. A half-dozen if not 30 people in a Mars Colony would still have constant communication back to Earth.
[QUOTE=shrektheturd2;40310314]i keep thinking of that movie pandorum where they leave and it turns out everyone on earth died afterwards[/QUOTE]
That's what you remember most from that movie? Not the mutants eating Norman Reedus?
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;40310674]But is immortality worth the death of mind and soul?[/QUOTE]
if death of mind and soul is inevitable, why not immortilize yourself?
Unless they find innovative solutions for sustaining life with what little equipment they could bring with them, it is practically a very expensive suicide mission.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;40310674]But is immortality worth the death of mind and soul?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure NASA and the likes would keep your ass plenty busy. I'd consider it, but only if my family was considerably compensated
I'd do it.
Seriously. It'd be great. I'd be in silence for months. I could become a zen master in that time. Meditation would be amazing in space. Life would get pretty stale, but there are monks that already live like that anyways. It'd be so much cooler to do it on another planet.
Hm.
You think they're gonna pack a gun?
Y'know, just in case?
[QUOTE=Simplemac3;40310949]Hm.
You think they're gonna pack a gun?
Y'know, just in case?[/QUOTE]
Pssh, who needs a gun when one of the astronauts is bound to go insane and bloodthirsty within the first 2 years?
All jokes aside, I'd be down for it. The biggest problem I can see is that with more people, a bigger society is formed, which means more social problems to deal with.
[QUOTE=archangel125;40310311]I don't know if I'd go. It's a huge decision to make, you'd be permanently cutting yourself off from the people on Earth. No internet, no radio, no TV, no music, no phone calls to loved ones, you'd be reading the same books, and you wouldn't be able to wander far from your lander or risk running out of breathable air. Very little human contact - Aside from the two or three people that'd go with you, you'd never meet a new person again. For every last remaining day of your life.[/QUOTE]
Almost none of this is true. No internet? No radio? No TV? No music? no phone calls? No new books?
With today's data storage and telecommunications capabilities, I think the transfer of information (even books and music and shit) from Earth to Mars isn't that outlandish...
[QUOTE=zzzz;40310995]Almost none of this is true. No internet? No radio? No TV? No music? no phone calls? No new books?
With today's data storage and telecommunications capabilities, I think the transfer of information (even books and music and shit) from Earth to Mars isn't that outlandish...[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying that there won't be any infrastructure in place to support it, and very little will be built in the forseeable future. What do telecommunication companies have to gain from spending billions to beam your porn to Mars?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;40310418]if we have the technology to reliably live on mars, and then travel back and forth, then no doubt we would have cybernetic limb enhancements for martians who want to go to earth.[/QUOTE]
It's not just limbs though. It'd be your entire body that developed in a different gravity and atmosphere density. Changing either of those for elongated periods of time can be lethal, plus it's not even known for sure if embryos can develop properly in a different gravity than Earth.
Let's not forget you would be VERY busy once you got there. Assembling modules, growing food, attempting to prepare landing sites for future landings; and then once those inevitably showed up you would be unloading goods, preparing new arrivals for their appointed work, and rrelaying products back to Earth once mineral or resource extraction begins.
Only the first two or three years will be terribly lonely and miserable. The next years after that will just be slightly lonely and tedious.
Still though, just imagine being the first Martian. The FIRST FUCKING HUMAN TO LIVE ON ANOTHER WORLD. If we survive long enough to sojourn into the universe at large you will be the first of a totally new breed of humans, the first of the star-faring men or women. THAT SHIT IS SO TIGHT.
THINK OF ALL THE PUSSY YOU WILL GET POPULATING MARS. YOU LITERALLY GET TO BE MARTIAN ADAM AND HAVE LOW GRAVITY SEX.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;40311058]Let's not forget you would be VERY busy once you got there. Assembling modules, growing food, attempting to prepare landing sites for future landings; and then once those inevitably showed up you would be unloading goods, preparing new arrivals for their appointed work, and rrelaying products back to Earth once mineral or resource extraction begins.
Only the first two or three years will be terribly lonely and miserable. The next years after that will just be slightly lonely and tedious.
Still though, just imagine being the first Martian. The FIRST FUCKING HUMAN TO LIVE ON ANOTHER WORLD. If we survive long enough to sojourn into the universe at large you will be the first of a totally new breed of humans, the first of the star-faring men or women. THAT SHIT IS SO TIGHT.[/QUOTE]
you wouldn't be that busy. yea you would have a lot of things to do but you would have way too much time to do it. you would probably be very busy for maybe a month then it would get boring as the whole system becomes properly regulated and functioning.
I don't think it's even a good idea, how the hell can we colonize mars when we don't got any equipment to begin with? no way to make fertile soil in mars to grow plants, no terraformation, you only probably only have stone unless you dig deep to see if their is actually any ore in mars. So life be tough in mars in the beginning.
If you think about it, there will probably be a way to bring them back in the next couple decades, so its not really "for life".
[QUOTE=Gubbygub;40311215]If you think about it, there will probably be a way to bring them back in the next couple decades, so its not really "for life".[/QUOTE]
Or we'd have some kind of breakthrough before they finished up their jobs, show up, and do what they've been doing for years in months.
I can't see a Mars mission even having a purpose until we have reasonable round-trip transportation of people and cargo, we're going to want to send stuff back for study as well don't forget.
[QUOTE=Gubbygub;40311215]If you think about it, there will probably be a way to bring them back in the next couple decades, so its not really "for life".[/QUOTE]
Good luck assembling the necessary launch platform on Mars while being shipped parts from Earth. It would take an incredibly long time.
[QUOTE=Gubbygub;40311215]If you think about it, there will probably be a way to bring them back in the next couple decades, so its not really "for life".[/QUOTE]
Well, life as YOU know it. A couple of decades changes a lot of things.
If I get selected, I'm going to run a psychology test of playing "Rocket Man" on repeat for 2 years
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