• One way ticket to Mars. Applications imminent.
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Wouldn't they have some sort of contact with Earth? You'd think they'd be able to beam data back and forth...
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40312645]The reason we want to colonise Mars is the fact this it is one of the few places in our solar system that wouldn't fucking kill us outright. We can't live on Mercury or we'll fry before we hit the ground. We can't really live on Venus because you know, the human body disagrees with Sulphuric Acid. We already live on Earth so you know, kinda moot. We can live on Mars because it's not stark bollock freezing all the time and it's somewhat similar to some deserts on Earth. We can't live on Jupiter cause Jupiter and bone crushing gravity, we could live on a few of its moons but again, really far away. Everything else is a fucking absurd distance from us. So it's the Moon or Mars, and I'd rather live on Mars cause it can stay somewhat warm and has actual gravity.[/QUOTE] "We already live on Earth so you know, kinda moot." Yeah well it's also kind of moot that you will be long rotten before any of this happens. And I didn't know you could walk on Mars in a t-shirt. And I didn't know there was vegetation, wild-life, running rivers and everything, some air to breathe.
Holy shit, this thread managed to go over 3 pages without a Total Recall reference? Facepunch, I'm proud. Anyway, if I was completely lonely, I'd probably choose going, if only to experience something no human ever experienced before. (also, I could just lock myself with a mountain of old jazz albums in .mp3 format and just browse the Internet, while reading books in between page loads. That'd be something. :v:) But I'm not, and I'm unlikely to ever become a brilliant scientist or what have you, so I'd probably never even get a chance to go in the first place. Still, if Mars gets colonized during my lifetime, that sure'd be something to behold... Just hope it doesn't turn out like in Bradbury's [i]Martian Chronicles[/i].
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Man you must hate life to do this.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;40317024]not really, it would burn up and be destroyed by hypersonic/transonic shredding[/QUOTE] Wouldn't any material that has the tensile strength to be able to be used in a space elevator also likely have a high amount of heat resistance and be durable? Especially since in its normal use it would need to be able to withstand air friction and wind forces.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;40320005][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DYA1raD-YY[/media] Thread song[/QUOTE] naw E1M1
[QUOTE=alexguydude;40310327]My brother who is an astrophysicist said he would want to do this. Why the hell would you want to leave earth at this point? I can see if it was like 300 years from now and there's a huge city, but never going back to earth would be extremely depressing.[/QUOTE] If someone doesn't take the first steps, you won't have big cities on Mars in 300 years (even if we send people now it will take at least 500 years for the terraforming process). Unless we develop sufficiently advanced AI that we can send robots to do our dirty jobs.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;40323810]naw E1M1[/QUOTE] The intro to both One way ticket and E1M1 both take roughly the same amount of time.
I think they should be focusing on better transport so then the people wont be stranded before they worry about getting people there. I think I would do this, but not now, I'm too young, I'd like to live a bit more first, maybe when I'm 50 or something.
Are they going to allow reproduction there or at-least "the funky business"? Not too sure if they would really allow someone to become pregnant there due to the possible lack of medical staff and possibly the food, and etc to nurture a baby.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;40319714]"We already live on Earth so you know, kinda moot." Yeah well it's also kind of moot that you will be long rotten before any of this happens. And I didn't know you could walk on Mars in a t-shirt. And I didn't know there was vegetation, wild-life, running rivers and everything, some air to breathe.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter if I'll be dead or not? Why would that have any bearing on a Mars Colonisation at all? And are you retarded? It's literally the only place in the solar system that is somewhat survivable, you can dig into the ground and you'll have a comfortable living environment, or you could build a few domes, grow some plants and have self sustaining community, and you can keep dropping in supplies every few months thanks to the new engines we're inventing so it doesn't matter if the dome has 100% efficiency. I fail to see a single reason to not go to Mars other than complete cowardice.
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[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40324260]Doesn't matter if I'll be dead or not? Why would that have any bearing on a Mars Colonisation at all? And are you retarded? It's literally the only place in the solar system that is somewhat survivable, you can dig into the ground and you'll have a comfortable living environment, or you could build a few domes, grow some plants and have self sustaining community, and you can keep dropping in supplies every few months thanks to the new engines we're inventing so it doesn't matter if the dome has 100% efficiency.[/QUOTE] You are asking if I'm retarded, and yet you suggest digging into the ground of Mars, growing "some plants" there and having a self-sustaining community.. Also "somewhat survivable"
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;40324297]You are asking if I'm retarded, and yet you suggest digging into the ground of Mars, growing "some plants" there and having a self-sustaining community.. Also "somewhat survivable"[/QUOTE] Yes, somewhat fucking survivable because you can actually take soil and fertiliser with you. I said live on Mars, not transform it into a tropical fucking paradise.
If we can't find anyone willing, why can't we just 'conscript' death row inmates or something? The only problem with that is that they are, well, criminals, the untrusted scrum of society. I wouldn't put it passed them to destroy the equipment out of spite, even if it kills them to do so.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40324336]If we can't find anyone willing, why can't we just 'conscript' death row inmates or something? The only problem with that is that they are, well, criminals, the untrusted scrum of society. I wouldn't put it passed them to destroy the equipment out of spite, even if it kills them to do so.[/QUOTE] Why would you bestow the honour of representing humanity's first steps on Mars to the few people who do not represent humanity?
Guys, a there-and-back trip is incredibly difficult. The largest rocket ever, the Saturn V, managed to get 3 people to the moon (and 2 to the surface), and back again. Going to mars is a whole crapload more difficult. You can't just make a bigger rocket - firstly, as you hold more fuel, you need extra fuel to make up for the excess weight. It's not a linear scale. Going there and back in one rocket would need the rocket to be multiple times bigger than the largest rockets ever even thought about. We can't just dock together an interplanetary rocket in space with current rocket, either. We'd need to have a rocket capable of landing on Mars, taking off again, and then docking to a vehicle to get back. That'd need to be massive, and on top of that, we can't use normal liquid efficient fuels. The most common and best working ones actually evaporate, so even if we wanted to haul fuel to get there and back, we'd need to use something not too efficient. Now, lets talk about actually landing there. It's probably the hardest planet to land on in our solar system. The atmosphere is too thin to allow parachutes to bring us safely to a landing, and we can't use airbags either as the collision would kill most humans, but it's still thick enough to make heatshields needed. That means we have extra fuel needed to drag along. Then we need to lift off again. Yeah, it'd hard, again. Most landers that would have this capability would be dangerously tall and likely to be pushed over even by mars winds, and if you land even near a slope, you aren't going to get back because by then the ship'll have fallen over. Let's say you get around these issues. Still, the vehicle to take up up to martian orbit would need to be as big as most rockets today launched from Earth; mars is big. Then, you need it to hold a docking port, and required RCS fuel for said docking, then transfer the astronauts over, fly them back to Earth, and land (needing another heatshield, again). It's not a simple case of waiting until we have the technology. There's only so much you can achieve before physics catches up. Our most efficient engines ever, ion engines, are hitting the limits of how much efficiency you can achieve, but those are extremely low thrust. If we want to get there and back again, we'd really need to create a new rocket from scratch on Mars. I also heard people say that going there, you would be alone and bored. This is not really true - there's no reason they couldn't take computers of some form with internet capabilities. You may have slow downloads speeds, but provided we get some new orbiters around mars, there's no reason any astronauts couldn't use the internet at decent speeds.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40324315]Yes, somewhat fucking survivable because you can actually take soil and fertiliser with you. I said live on Mars, not transform it into a tropical fucking paradise.[/QUOTE] And I'm a retard for saying that would be a complete waste of time.. and fertilizer.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;40324510]And I'm a retard for saying that would be a complete waste of time.. and fertilizer.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure laying the foundations of a colony securing the survival of mankind if something god awful happens is not a waste of time.
Sorry, too afraid of human-sized cockroaches. johjoh This would be the greatest thing ever though.
I'd love to do this but there's too much of the Earth I've yet to see
[QUOTE=Valnar;40323467]Wouldn't any material that has the tensile strength to be able to be used in a space elevator also likely have a high amount of heat resistance and be durable? Especially since in its normal use it would need to be able to withstand air friction and wind forces.[/QUOTE] the majority of the tensile strength would have to be at/near the base, it would have to take some wind but idk what you mean with the air friction
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