• US to build massive prison in Afghanistan costing millions
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[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32401113]How come you defend them so much?[/QUOTE] Because I agree with them more on economic issues.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32401133]Because I agree with them more on economic issues.[/QUOTE] Even though their economic policies have failed nearly every single time they have ever been implemented? Gotta admire your commitment.
This is gonna go about as well as that port city the Soviets and Russians have wanted to build in Afghanistan for a few centuries.
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32401339]Even though their economic policies have failed nearly every single time they have ever been implemented? Gotta admire your commitment.[/QUOTE] It's nice you have an opinion, but please don't try and act like it's a fact.
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[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32401436]It's nice you have an opinion, but please don't try and act like it's a fact.[/QUOTE] Still waiting for that reganomics to work?
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;32393160]Move to China with me. Please? Lonely here. :( Besides it's Communism government, I think this is a great place. And Hong Kong is even better. x10 better.[/QUOTE] state capitalism =/= communism
[QUOTE=Soviet Bread;32401626]Still waiting for that reganomics to work?[/QUOTE] Reganomics isn't in place right now. Right now, our government is trying to replicate FDR's New Deal.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32402111]Reganomics isn't in place right now. Right now, our government is trying to replicate FDR's New Deal.[/QUOTE] ...Which any decent historian who isn't spouting propaganda to get grant money and avoid being fired from his liberal college will tell you that it was a monumental failure. We only escaped the last depression thanks to world war 2.
[QUOTE=Jenkem;32402423]...Which any decent historian who isn't spouting propaganda to get grant money and avoid being fired from his liberal college will tell you that it was a monumental failure. We only escaped the last depression thanks to world war 2.[/QUOTE] All colleges are liberal? Sounds like a pretty well spun conspiracy theory to me. And the only reason why companies were able to jump into production and keep their companies moving, not to mention the economy was improving even before the war, was because of the New Deal. The New Deal was implemented in 1933, that's EIGHT years for the polices to take effect. There is no way, if the economy was the way it was, that companies could easily jump into manufacturing. It did happen over night, only because companies had the ability to because of the New Deal. Now, even if it was a monumental failure, the fact the economy improved - with or without the war, does not make it a failure until it actually fails. It did not fail, whether or not you like it, you can't say it failed. However, you can incorrectly say it was useless, but that's up to you.
You guys are acting like this this is new and terrible. Terrible, maybe, but not new. Much of the money going into Afghanistan is being used to build massive facilities. Some of them are needed and useful, but most go unoccupied and quite frankly are a waste of money. This is just a drop in an ocean. The Afghan people desperately need money for infrastructure, education, and the like, but we're not providing them enough of that. Just an illiterate police force, concepts that require lifetimes to perfect, and a whole pile of unoccupied offices.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32402111]Reganomics isn't in place right now. Right now, our government is trying to replicate FDR's New Deal.[/QUOTE] It has been and has failed every time now. However, what the government is doing now is slightly reminiscent to the New Deal. In part, it's slightly worked what Obama's doing - however there are extenuating circumstances. First off, the new deal wasn't unique, Teddy Roosevelt did the exact same thing, even more extreme than the New Deal and it worked. As well as LBJ, JFK, Bill Clinton etc. Second, the state of the economy is not like it was during those times. The defence budget, extra expenditures, war on drugs etc, though existed, were not as bad as it was now. (which can be attributed to the Republican Party and their failure to do anything properly) Third, what Obama does now is play both fields. He deploys ideas and they get stripped by the Republicans; what's left is a empty idea with all the good parts removed. (Healthcare bill is a good example). It's a LOT less Black and White than you make it.
inb4 massive prison break in Afghanistan for any terrorists held there
[QUOTE=Jenkem;32402423]...Which any decent historian who isn't spouting propaganda to get grant money and avoid being fired from his liberal college will tell you that it was a monumental failure. We only escaped the last depression thanks to world war 2.[/QUOTE] Yes, providing jobs to millions and creating one of the greatest rural infrastructures in the world while simultaneously creating provisions to protect the old, weak, and poor financially and creating regulations and practices to stop a similar bank collapse was completely useless and the increase in production caused by WWII was the only reason we got out of the Great Depression. Just like how the current administration loaning money to prevent the collapse of some of the world's largest banks and the nation's largest businesses really didn't do anything. Bank of America? They would have been fine without a major loan from the Federal government preventing default. General Motors? They probably would have survived without that loan or the government forcing them to restructure their business model to be more economically viable. All of these things are completely useless wastes of money that did nothing for our nation at all and are completely related somehow. [i][highlight]STFU[/highlight][/i]
[QUOTE=Jenkem;32402423]...Which any decent historian who isn't spouting propaganda to get grant money and avoid being fired from his liberal college will tell you that it was a monumental failure. We only escaped the last depression thanks to world war 2.[/QUOTE] Yes, because as we all know colleges are manipulated through liberal propaganda to support socialism!
[QUOTE=scout1;32393698]Do you know what the word "infrastructure" means? Christ... Pull your head out of your ass, first.[/QUOTE] Uh yes, I do. Last time i checked roads is a part of infrastructure. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass before speaking. My comment was not directly related to this topic when I mentioned building roads (which is a part of infrastructure, a basic thing in creating structures needed for society's operation.) Though it was related to the wasted million of dollars for stupid projects.
[U]AMERICA WHY?! WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING STUPID?![/U]
Oh my God. I never realized that everyone on Facepunch is this fucking dumb.
[QUOTE=Jenkem;32402423]...Which any decent historian who isn't spouting propaganda to get grant money and avoid being fired from his liberal college will tell you that it was a monumental failure. We only escaped the last depression thanks to world war 2.[/QUOTE] Do you think america would have been quite as willing to go to war if the New Deal hadn't happened? [editline]20th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32402111]Reganomics isn't in place right now. Right now, our government is trying to replicate FDR's New Deal.[/QUOTE] We aren't out of reaganomics territory until the bush tax cuts are axed and corporate tax loopholes closed.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32400115]"I'll get the United States out of both wars by the end of my Presidency" [sub][sub][sub]Joins another one through the United Nations[/sub][/sub][/sub][/QUOTE] funny that this is coming from the guy who is an apologist for the US military and war crimes
This is a waste of money, why even take prisoners - interrogate and execute them on the spot.
Either that was sarcasm or your country is running out of hope.
This is totally logical. I mean its not like the majority of Americans have wanted out of the middle east for last decade or anything so this makes perfect sense...
Looks like congress dosen't know what a negative sign is.
Our government is a bunch of faggots oww my automerge
Off topic but no one actually broke your automerge.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32400115] [SUB][SUB][SUB]Joins another one through the United Nations [/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/QUOTE] If you are talking about Libya that isn't a war. Its for once an actual "police action" without it being euphemism. [editline]22nd September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=gufu;32405338]This is a waste of money, why even take prisoners - interrogate and execute them on the spot.[/QUOTE] I was not aware that the US was a backwards third world dictatorship. Thank you for informing me of this.
[QUOTE=Jsm;32427210]If you are talking about Libya that isn't a war. Its for once an actual "police action" without it being euphemism. [/QUOTE] Legally, we shouldn't be there as White House is currently violating the War Powers Act of 1973. However, you're right, it currently isn't considered an official war, because Congress has yet to vote on it like they should have months ago. As for your second point, I would definitely call it provocative. We've provided air support and we've fired multiple tomahawk missiles at Libyan forces.
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