"Has The iPhone Peaked?" Apple’s iPhone 4s Seen Outselling iPhone 5
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There are no features missing from the iPhone, it runs on iOS, so we could say there is missing features for iOS but i see none, everything came over
We don't care about what other systems have, that's like saying Android is missing iMaps or whatever
I think one disadvantage of the iPhones however is lack of NFC, not a biiiig missing feature but it's getting a little big
[QUOTE=Ezhik;38836170]and come on
you give apple shit for changing stuff (iphone 5)
and you give apple shit for not changing stuff (iphone 4s)
make up your minds[/QUOTE]
we're giving them shit for changing the wrong stuff
there's literally no reason for Lightning other than to piss off third party accessory makers
uh
lightning connector is much smaller, reversible, much better. I like it.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38836723]we're giving them shit for changing the wrong stuff
there's literally no reason for Lightning other than to piss off third party accessory makers[/QUOTE]
or maybe so that they could ditch a giant 11 year old connector they used before
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
seriously didn't everyone whine about it a year ago
[QUOTE=TehWhale;38836746]uh
lightning connector is much smaller, reversible, much better. I like it.[/QUOTE]
people are more concerned about legacy devices, you can buy adapters but people see it as an inconvenience
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38836635]There are no features missing from the iPhone, it runs on iOS, so we could say there is missing features for iOS but i see none, everything came over
We don't care about what other systems have, that's like saying Android is missing iMaps or whatever
I think one disadvantage of the iPhones however is lack of NFC, not a biiiig missing feature but it's getting a little big[/QUOTE]
I'm saying it lacks features that its major competitor has. NFC is becoming a big problem. An array of devices is another. Expandable storage. Widgets. The voice recognition sucks. Social integration in iOS6 is barely anything compared to Android.
I honestly don't see how anyone can pick something up like the Nexus 4 and then hold an iPhone and choose the iPhone. Whatever. iPhones are for trendy little dipshits that want to fit in. It's a fad and like all fads, they go away.
Enjoy being stuck on a platform because you can't afford to lose the hundreds of dollars of apps from iTunes (99% of which have free counterparts).
[QUOTE=Daniel M;38837326]I'm saying it lacks features that its major competitor has. NFC is becoming a big problem. An array of devices is another. Expandable storage. Widgets. The voice recognition sucks. Social integration in iOS6 is barely anything compared to Android. [/QUOTE]
NFC is bad, yes
Expandable storage? As in the feature your Nexus 4 doesn't have? Everyone is moving away from that, even Google.
Widgets? Subjective, not everyone needs those.
Social integration seems fine to me, it just offers less social networks.
Voice recognition sucks? Umm... Where are you getting that?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;38837326]
I honestly don't see how anyone can pick something up like the Nexus 4 and then hold an iPhone and choose the iPhone. Whatever. iPhones are for trendy little dipshits that want to fit in. It's a fad and like all fads, they go away.[/QUOTE]
Well if they want a better screen, a better camera, a more optimized OS, better build quality, LTE support, I can see why they'd choose the iPhone over the Nexus.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;38837326]
Enjoy being stuck on a platform because you can't afford to lose the hundreds of dollars of apps from iTunes (99% of which have free counterparts).[/QUOTE]
Well I'd rather actually buy an app, it's pretty much guaranteed to be high quality, rather than hit and miss with ad-supported stuff.
This applies to Android too.
Well hopefully people start going back to buying useful things now.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;38837326]I'm saying it lacks features that its major competitor has. NFC is becoming a big problem. An array of devices is another. Expandable storage. Widgets. The voice recognition sucks. Social integration in iOS6 is barely anything compared to Android.
I honestly don't see how anyone can pick something up like the Nexus 4 and then hold an iPhone and choose the iPhone. Whatever. iPhones are for trendy little dipshits that want to fit in. It's a fad and like all fads, they go away.
Enjoy being stuck on a platform because you can't afford to lose the hundreds of dollars of apps from iTunes (99% of which have free counterparts).[/QUOTE]
Now you're just finding things to kick on
NFC - right now it's becoming big but yeah they should jump on
Expandable storage - well the Nexus brands, the google flagships aren't carrying around expandable storage solutions, what do you say to that?
Widgets - who needs them? Apple has those little blips that tell you if you've got something worth noting, pretty much like windows phone just less advanced
Voice recognition - it doesn't suck, it's pretty good, I think you were trying to find something to spit at there
Social integration - Whilst true, apps can use the api's and they can have other programs to share it with, like some photo editing apps have the ability to jump to instagram if they need to, and facebook. I think honestly it isn't a big feature
And again, the nexus 4 comes in 8gb and 16gb with [B][U]NO EXPANDABLE STORAGE WHATSOEVER[/U][/B], why didn't you even fucking point that out when you were going through your flaws on the iPhones?
I'm actually seeing most of my classmates trade in for the Samsung Galaxy
Which was funny because not too long ago it was ~so damned cool~ to have an iPhone
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;38837772]I'm actually seeing most of my classmates trade in for the Samsung Galaxy
Which was funny because not too long ago it was ~so damned cool~ to have an iPhone[/QUOTE]
Well android is growing some ground and there's competition with android and iOS so im happy to see that
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38837589]And again, the nexus 4 comes in 8gb and 16gb with [B][U]NO EXPANDABLE STORAGE WHATSOEVER[/U][/B], why didn't you even fucking point that out when you were going through your flaws on the iPhones?[/QUOTE]
It's funny because he has one
[quote=The gist of the original article]People aren't buying the new iPhone as much anymore, is it dying?[/quote]
I think iPhone users finally figured out that their phone from last gen will still last them a few years is all. Apple needs to step their game up a bit if they want to stay top dog but they'll probably survive.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;38837326]NFC is becoming a big problem.[/quote]
Fair point.
[quote]An array of devices is another.[/quote]
Most people who want an iPhone don't care about that sort of thing.
[quote]Expandable storage.[/quote]
The only company doing that anymore is Samsung, and speculation is even they'll quit that. Bitch at Google to figure something out, because they're the root problem here. Alternatively, bitch at Apple, they still have that "standard setter" thing going.
[quote]Widgets.[/quote]
Not everyone cares enough about widgets. If my Skyrocket broke and I was stuck on a phone without widgets I honestly wouldn't be that upset.
[quote]The voice recognition sucks.[/quote]
Actually this is wrong. Sure, Google Now might be better at it but iOS voice recognition is nothing to laugh at.
[quote]Social integration in iOS6 is barely anything compared to Android. [/quote]
Facebook. Twitter. Instagram. As long as your phone supports these three you've covered 80% of the smartphone using population. Throw in LinkedIn and you have a further 15%.
[quote]Enjoy being stuck on a platform because you can't afford to lose the hundreds of dollars of apps from iTunes (99% of which have free counterparts).[/QUOTE]
I only have one paid app on my iTunes account - Tilt to Live. Sadly it's also the one app in iOS that I honestly miss (as everything else either has an Android port or something that does the same shit). But it's far from the "hundreds of dollars" you claim every iPhone user will have had to have spent to get something useful.
They'll quit doing expandable storage when they start including that super cheap 64gb flash storage in their phones that they've been talking about. I have the Nexus 4 because I don't play many games on my phone (other than a couple emulators and Angry Birds when I'm really bored). Google Music streaming is awesome for me because I am constantly in a covered area and my battery life is still great.
If you want expandable storage and don't mind about the plastic back, get the Samsung Galaxy S3. Otherwise, the Nexus 4 is the nicest yet cheapest high end smartphone on the market.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38835410]I feel Apple has died somewhat since Steve Jobs passed and his Bodhisattva ways simply aren't showing in the products anymore.[/QUOTE]
Well he personally pulled Apple out of the gutter, dirty methods or not.
Also the time is catching up to proprietary standards, you want to move a-lot of products? make the standards open or with a damn cheap licensing fee that slightly increases with the amount of products sold featuring it.
Those people who wanted a simple smartphone that [I]"just works"[/I] all go for Windows Phone 8 now, while those who want one that's either dirt cheap [B]OR[/B] can almost even make them coffee or do the dishes picks Android.
[QUOTE=Van-man;38838818]Well he personally pulled Apple out of the gutter, dirty methods or not.
Also the time is catching up to proprietary standards, you want to move a-lot of products? make the standards open or with a damn cheap licensing fee that slightly increases with the amount of products sold featuring it.
Those people who wanted a simple smartphone that [I]"just works"[/I] all go for Windows Phone 8 now, while those who want one that's either dirt cheap [B]OR[/B] can almost even make them coffee or do the dishes picks Android.[/QUOTE]
only a matter of time until we see an Android powered coffee machine
We already have cameras after all...
And it will inevitably be rooted :v:
[QUOTE=lavacano;38837862]Facebook. Twitter. Instagram. As long as your phone supports these three you've covered 80% of the smartphone using population. Throw in LinkedIn and you have a further 15%.[/QUOTE]
Did you make up these statistics?
[QUOTE=Dr Bob;38838838]Did you make up these statistics?[/QUOTE]
83% of statistics are made up on the spot.
But really, I think that what's happening is, as a lot of people said already, the 'casual' phone-users who only buy a new phone when their current one breaks or is so inferior it isn't worth using at all any more all have smartphones by now; so they're not buying the new iPhone, because they already got the iPhone 3GS and that's enough for them. It's not like the new iPhone does anything that you absolutely [B][I]need[/I][/B] that the 3GS doesn't, the iPhone 5 just does a lot of new stuff that you don't really need, and then it's a lot faster at the stuff you do need. Us common mortals who just need our phone to call people on, check the weather, use as a map and to win arguments via wikipedia, we don't need it.
[QUOTE=Vedz;38836017]That's almost every smartphone though[/QUOTE]
My HTC Desire HD has been golden for the past two years and I'm just starting to look for upgrades, a smartphone will only become redundant if you want to pick up a new phone every year.
I personally bought an iPhone 4 a year's time back as my first smartphone after my Nokia 3510i finally bit the dirt. I bought it 'cause it was on sale for cheap, and it's an easy, safe choice. Is it omg teh best phone I've ever handled and played with? Of course not, but it still does way more shit than I ever need it to do. Unless someone like, invents one that can have free, highspeed internet anywhere so I don't have to depend on my shoddy-at-best 3g coverage, I can see absolutely no reason to upgrade it in the next 5 years. Unless it breaks, of course.
Oh, and it looks pretty, something androids really kinda don't, in general. Won't say that didn't help me buy it.
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The iPhone 5 does not look pretty either. I might accept the metal backplate over the glass of the iPhone 4, but the proportions are just waaay off.
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;38838833]only a matter of time until we see an Android powered coffee machine
We already have cameras after all...
And it will inevitably be rooted :v:[/QUOTE]
Playing Angry Birds while waiting for the coffee to be done.
[I]There's a market here...[/I]
[QUOTE=Van-man;38839384]Playing Angry Birds while waiting for the coffee to be done.
[I]There's a market here...[/I][/QUOTE]
To be honest... Yeah. Yeah there is. I would honestly buy the shit out of that if it wasn't priced more than like, 30 bucks over competing coffee machines; just for the gimmick of it.
Yeah, as you might have noticed by now, I'm super-casual when it comes to non-PC electronics. I am the market-share that they are losing. My retarded opinion actually matters, because I'm the one they need to get to buy their shit if they wanna keep it up :v:
[QUOTE=Van-man;38838818]Well he personally pulled Apple out of the gutter, dirty methods or not.
Also the time is catching up to proprietary standards, you want to move a-lot of products? make the standards open or with a damn cheap licensing fee that slightly increases with the amount of products sold featuring it.
Those people who wanted a simple smartphone that [I]"just works"[/I] all go for Windows Phone 8 now, while those who want one that's either dirt cheap [B]OR[/B] can almost even make them coffee or do the dishes picks Android.[/QUOTE]
you forget that there are people that want a useful device without having to deal with android's bullshit
iphones aren't as useless as you think
there's stuff like imovie or fruity loops, and while they're not as powerful as full pc versions, they're much better than anything android has to offer. the only things i've seen that actually come close to this come from samsung but still were pretty half-assed
[QUOTE=Ezhik;38839608]you forget that there are people that want a useful device without having to deal with android's bullshit
iphones aren't as useless as you think
there's stuff like imovie or fruity loops, and while they're not as powerful as full pc versions, they're much better than anything android has to offer. the only things i've seen that actually come close to this come from samsung but still were pretty half-assed[/QUOTE]
I though we've talked about your bitterness already.
yeah, go ahead and ignore everything i say just because i'm not happy about android
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
audio latency is a real issue and only now google took steps to fix it
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
and as for videos i honestly have no idea why there aren't any proper editors
but when i wanted to make a short video with some transitions and pictures
i couldn't
[QUOTE=Ezhik;38839852]yeah, go ahead and ignore everything i say just because i'm not happy about android
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
audio latency is a real issue and only now google took steps to fix it
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
and as for videos i honestly have no idea why there aren't any proper editors
but when i wanted to make a short video with some transitions and pictures
i couldn't[/QUOTE]
Well then change platform, your voice has been heard so many times you're on the verge to be considered the town drunkard yelling all the time, minus the alcohol.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;38839852]yeah, go ahead and ignore everything i say just because i'm not happy about android[/QUOTE]
[editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
it doesn't say anywhere in the rules of this forum that i'm only allowed to complain about things you don't like
I've noticed more and more people getting a 3gs since the release of the iPhone 5. It's become so cheap that blackberry users fed up with having to switch phones every 3 months because their keys start falling out, now buy a 3gs instead.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;38840008][editline]15th December 2012[/editline]
it doesn't say anywhere in the rules of this forum that i'm only allowed to complain about things you don't like[/QUOTE]
Also doesn't say I'm not allowed to complain about your repetitive and stagnant behavior.
lets complain about repetitive behavior in the daily 'apple sucks' thread
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