Pro-life Teen Defiant After Alleged "Attack" by Feminist Professor
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Sloppy joe I rated you wrong.
So you guys would rather take a life because it MIGHT be shit?
"I have a degree is woman's studies"
lol
I don't agree with the notion that universities need to tolerate every viewpoint, because nobody wants the KKK or the WBC running around with free reign at universities, but it's not like pro-lifers are a hate group or anything. (Usually)
And if this was just an argument amongst students I wouldn't really care but a professor should conduct themselves more professionally than this.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258431]Sloppy joe I rated you wrong.[/QUOTE]
400,000 kids in the foster care system in the USA prove you wrong. if the people who aborted started having kids what would happen to them?
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the system is already fairly well loaded, why are you suggesting we overload it more?
not totally supprised, with the hierarchy of academics, this is kinda believable, but cmon there's no abortion holocaust, is their name trying to imply that the 1973 supreme court was equivalent to the nazi party?
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;44258428]not to mention if someone would otherwise have an abortion because they can't afford to have kids, surely making them be pregnant anyway and most likely have to leave their job for a while is probably a bad idea[/QUOTE]
Or my favorite, my brothers girlfriend was going to college to be a fucking [B]molecular biologist[/B] and getting her pHD. But not anymore! She has to raise a baby now.
[QUOTE=Vilusia;44258446]So you guys would rather take a life because it MIGHT be shit?[/QUOTE]
You're not taking a life, though. They're not alive.
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It's like equating destroying a seed to cutting down a tree. They're not the same.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258422]Adoption fucks people up. I know people who have been adopted, even if they do end up in a good house with a loving family, the simple fact of them being adopted leaves a space open for a lot of grief.
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Meanwhile abortion is perfectly safe for their mental health
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258462]Or my favorite, my brothers girlfriend was going to college to be a fucking [B]molecular biologist[/B] and getting her pHD. But not anymore! She has to raise a baby now.[/QUOTE]
if she was committed to her degree she would have stuck on it...
not to be a buzz kill but i have a professor that has 4 kids and she's got 2 PHDs, its possible, just difficult
Is it Buddhism that doesn't see the kid having a soul until it's born?
[QUOTE=Vilusia;44258446]So you guys would rather take a life because it MIGHT be shit?[/QUOTE]
We aren't killing anybody though.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258422]Adoption fucks people up. I know people who have been adopted, even if they do end up in a good house with a loving family, the simple fact of them being adopted leaves a space open for a lot of grief. [/QUOTE]
Adoption isn't any more likely to land you with shitty parents than staying with your biological parents is.
Honestly I'd argue the opposite since people who seek adoption can't accidentally adopt a kid they don't want.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;44258468]Meanwhile abortion is perfectly safe for their mental health[/QUOTE]
Well, yeah, they don't even have a functioning brain yet.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44258490]Adoption isn't any more likely to land you with shitty parents than staying with your biological parents is.
Honestly I'd argue the opposite since people who seek adoption can't accidentally adopt a kid they don't want.[/QUOTE]
What about foster homes who literally use them as some sort of slave labor? My friend ran away from one of those.....he has lashes all up and down his back from the abuse.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;44258468]Meanwhile abortion is perfectly safe for their mental health[/QUOTE]
the negative mental health affects from abortion are less frequent than from childbirth. you have a misinformed opinion.
[url]http://www.plannedparenthood.org/resources/research-papers/emotional-effects-induced-abortion-6137.htm[/url]
Shh, just think of the chimeras. The data that could be garnered from individuals who have been pregnant that often
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44258464]You're not taking a life, though. They're not alive.
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It's like equating destroying a seed to cutting down a tree. They're not the same.[/QUOTE]
the problem is abortion science =/= science
its all based on speculation and unprovable/debunked theories,
while real developmental scientists have essentially determined that you aren't really alive until you can meet several behavioral criteria, some of which come as late as a year old
you are also dealing with people's fixed viewpoints, i had a chick drive up to my house to ask me to sign a petition to stop oil subsidies because "herp the enviroment" and i pointed out that she drove here in a big gas guzzling station wagon to hand out pamphlets printed on paper harvested from trees made with ink mixed up from petrochemicals, but that didn't phase her at all, she still saw the oil companies as evil demons that need to be removed from the world
[QUOTE=Appellation;44258485]Is it Buddhism that doesn't see the kid having a soul until it's born?[/QUOTE]
The bible says that too, read my post above.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1376527&p=44258094&viewfull=1#post44258094[/url]
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258503]What about foster homes who literally use them as some sort of slave labor? My friend ran away from one of those.....he has lashes all up and down his back from the abuse.[/QUOTE]
The foster care system has less oversight than adoption, it's terribly mismanaged. While kids do slip through the cracks when it comes to adoption they're usually [i]really[/i] fussy about who gets to adopt kids.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44258512]the problem is abortion science =/= science
its all based on speculation and unprovable/debunked theories, while real developmental scientists have essentially determined that you aren't really alive until you can meet several criteria, some of which come as late as a year old[/QUOTE]
Isn't that what I'm saying?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44258456]400,000 kids in the foster care system in the USA prove you wrong. if the people who aborted started having kids what would happen to them?
[editline]16th March 2014[/editline]
the system is already fairly well loaded, why are you suggesting we overload it more?[/QUOTE]
I'm agreeing with you brotha, adoption is not the answer.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44258464]You're not taking a life, though. They're not alive.
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It's like equating destroying a seed to cutting down a tree. They're not the same.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258489]We aren't killing anybody though.[/QUOTE]
Abortion is taking a life that could have been, and that's just as bad in my opinion. That being said though, I'm not going to actively stop people from doing it. It's kinda like smoking for me, I don't like it, but I'm not going to stop it.
[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;44258516]The bible says that too, read my post above.
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1376527&p=44258094&viewfull=1#post44258094[/url][/QUOTE]
Good point. The whole ancient egyptian/Jewish focus was more on not killing infants anyway
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44258509]the negative mental health affects from abortion are less frequent than from childbirth. you have a misinformed opinion.
[url]http://www.plannedparenthood.org/resources/research-papers/emotional-effects-induced-abortion-6137.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
I mean't the children.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44258496]Well, yeah, they don't even have a functioning brain yet.[/QUOTE]
And certainly won't have a one after abortion, so I suppose you are right.
[QUOTE=Vilusia;44258535]Abortion is taking a life that could have been, and that's just as bad in my opinion. That being said though, I'm not going to actively stop people from doing it. It's kinda like smoking for me, I don't like it, but I'm not going to stop it.[/QUOTE]
Not having sex is taking a life that could've been. Using a condom is taking a life that could've been. So what?
The entire thing boils down to a society that is uncomfortable talking about sex, while making it highly attractive to adolescents. It's the duty of a parent to be honest and open with their child about sex, STD's, contraceptives and the like. If you aren't going to treat sex like a real thing and expect your kids never to interact with the opposite sex, you're blind to reality.
Couple a sex-driven, yet sex-shamed society with very few free contraceptives (personal experience) and you get a society that has a very difficult struggle over abortion. Simple as that. You want to make abortion less of an issue? Make sex less taboo. Make your children know what the dangers/risks are at an age when it matters, and the problem will begin to fix itself. If you insist on being moral reactionaries, and are not proactive in destroying the catch-22 of sex, there's nothing to be done.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;44258548]And certainly won't have a one after abortion, so I suppose you are right.[/QUOTE]
They don't have one before, either.
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Of course, people abuse this system and take no precautions with their sexual habits at all, and that's wrong. What's worse is trying to take away the backdrop because of the abusers.
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Uhm, Nobody uses abortions as birth control, because it's expensive and a really fucking complicated procedure.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44258527]Isn't that what I'm saying?[/QUOTE]
im trying to say, you can't reason with them because they think what they are doing is right and they pick the few facts that cannot be disproven to support their side, and science in these terms is more like a magic "iwin" rule instead of actual science...like what scientists use....
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