• 'Pokémon Go' Is Forcing Americans to Learn the Metric System
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[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;50708030]relevant [IMG]http://kaero.wz.cz/jokes/imperial-vs-si.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Heh. I always find it funny when someone posts that image because sure, metric wins on the top part but we still write dates better. [t]http://i.imgur.com/TG5XMDJ.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50708040]Try learning this, for starters: 100 steps are 100 meters![/QUOTE] Do you fucking hop? 100 steps is not 100 meters, maybe closer to 120 steps.
[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;50708030] [IMG]http://kaero.wz.cz/jokes/imperial-vs-si.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] The date one makes sense in the English language though: 07/14/16 -> "July 14th, 2016" In most other European languages the other way makes sense though.
My main concern about metric system vs. imperial system is that these differences cause a lot of accidents.
[QUOTE=Mr. Manistan;50709206]Surprised this wasn't here yet. [t]http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/handy-guide-temperatures.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] That 0 Kelvin should be "Universe ceases to exist".
[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;50708050]i mean i don't mind it, i use both interchangibly[/QUOTE] It should be standard to just make it small to large: Day > Month > Year. Because if it's the 12th or earlier in the month, on a website especially, you're not going to know for sure if it's the day or month that the number refers to Release on 6/9/2017. Yeah June 9th.. or is it September 6... shit. It's happening more and more
[QUOTE=wraithcat;50709116]Even americans say it's 4th of July. Not July the fourth. [/QUOTE] for literally only that and Cinco De Mayo. All other days in the year it's Month Day
I prefer MM/DD/YYYY because its written the way one would speak it. X of Y to Y-Xth. Simpler and faster to say.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50708204]I still see the purpose in using Fahrenheit for temperature. Celsius is measured in relation to water's freezing and boiling points, but Fahrenheit is based more around human perception. 32 degrees is really cold, 100 degrees is really hot. Humans like it right around 70. It's no good for measuring stuff for chemistry or cooking, but for weather? Hell yeah. Why limit our range of temperature to 40 units?[/QUOTE] only because you're used to it, this argument has no more merit than me saying when 0 is cold for us and 40 is really hot. [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;50708826]How is this any less arbitrary than three grains stacked end to end?[/QUOTE] thats not what we use now, take a quick lesson. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_base_unit[/url]
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50709538]I prefer MM/DD/YYYY because its written the way one would speak it. X of Y to Y-Xth. Simpler and faster to say.[/QUOTE] It's written the way one would speak it in english, you mean.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50708204]I still see the purpose in using Fahrenheit for temperature. Celsius is measured in relation to water's freezing and boiling points, but Fahrenheit is based more around human perception. 32 degrees is really cold, 100 degrees is really hot. Humans like it right around 70. It's no good for measuring stuff for chemistry or cooking, but for weather? Hell yeah. Why limit our range of temperature to 40 units?[/QUOTE] Because the difference between 21C and 20C is just about enough to justify 1C of accuracy. It's perfectly adequate and is based on a much more sensible scale. If it's 0C outside, you know it's probably going to be icy.
[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;50709668]It's written the way one would speak it in english, you mean.[/QUOTE] Which in the context of this being an American- only format, that is assumed.
[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;50708905]I'm not at all against the value of metric in being factors of ten, its really handy some times. But the video I replies to uses the basis of the imperial system to call it shit, which I feel is fucking stupid because the basis of all measurements is stupid.[/QUOTE] No, it's really handy all the time. The problem with the imperial system is not what its fundamental unit is based on. It's that the units that BUILD on that are stupidly defined and therefore make it unnecessarily difficult to quantify the real world. Can you convert 2.4 miles to feet in your head? Probably not. I bet you could convert 2.4km to metres in your head. [IMG]https://pics.onsizzle.com/metric-system-is-like-being-raised-with-a-harhes-lll-2780743.png[/IMG] Imperial is objectively worse because it isn't logically defined, regardless of what fundamental measurement it's based on. That's all the video is saying.
[QUOTE=Trumple;50709702]Can you convert 2.4 miles to feet in your head? Probably not.[/QUOTE] 5280+5280+(the answer of that * 2 (4 miles) then drop the last digit). So 12662 feet if I'm right. Pretty easy. (Though still significantly more complicated and time consuming than the metric one, lol.) [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Teddybeer;50709850]Sort of dislike the entire date and measurement debate, people blindly defending their way because they were raised with it and oh the horrors of having to learn to do it in different ways! It looks like a huge mess with the pyramids but when you turn it into circles it will look odd in a different way. DD-MM-YY the first changes often the second less and the last rarely. So why start with the month as you would probably already be more aware of it in a conversation than the day.[/QUOTE] It's a pointless debate anyways since YYYY-MM-DD is objectively the most logical format anyways in our modern world which depends on computers.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;50708206]and metric + imperial hasn't worked fine, a space probe has literally crashed because of the imperial system[/QUOTE] shitloads of engineering projects have issues thanks to this. the civilised world has to convert from Neanderthal units to real-people units constantly thanks to a small group of countries. wasting time and money and potentially introducing discrepancies in the measurements.
[QUOTE=ZachPL;50708070]Knowing the day before the month just doesn't make sense. -- its the 14th only 11 days till christmas! no it's july oh you should've said that first[/QUOTE] "When did that happen" "July" "Oh, last month?" "No, last year."
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50708204]I still see the purpose in using Fahrenheit for temperature. Celsius is measured in relation to water's freezing and boiling points, but Fahrenheit is based more around human perception. 32 degrees is really cold, 100 degrees is really hot. Humans like it right around 70. It's no good for measuring stuff for chemistry or cooking, but for weather? Hell yeah. Why limit our range of temperature to 40 units?[/QUOTE] And celsius doesn't do that...? It does, and it does it better. -30 is so cold your dicks going to fall off. 0 is cold. 10 is chilly. 20 is nice. 30 is quite warm. 40 is fucking hot.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;50709887]1468526711 Pick the formatting you prefer.[/QUOTE] Of course. But Unix time does away with the annoying issue of differing measurements altogether by simply measuring seconds and only seconds. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50710021]0 is cold. 10 is chilly. 20 is nice. 30 is quite warm. 40 is fucking hot.[/QUOTE] In my opinion anything above 25ºC is bordering on intolerably warm. 10-15ºC is quite nice. Anything below that is chilly or weather to start bundling up for. (Depending on just how cold it gets.)
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;50709344]Heh. I always find it funny when someone posts that image because sure, metric wins on the top part but we still write dates better. [t]http://i.imgur.com/TG5XMDJ.png[/t][/QUOTE] No, that does not make any sense. It's a matter of need of precision. Roughly, you just need to know the day. If you want to be more precise, you add the month. Then, if you really need to be precise, you add the day. For hours it's the other way around, because knowing what hour is it is more important than knowing what minute it is or what second it is. Either way, DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY/MM/DD is logical, because they are both ordered (although in different directions). MM/DD/YYYY is retarded and nobody would use it if it were not ingrained in a lot of people already.
On the topic of date formats, MM/DD/YYYY is organized least to greatest by the maximum number of time units (12 < 31 < 2016), while DD/MM/YYYY is organized least to greatest by the size of the time units themselves (day < month < year). Neither is more illogical than the other. The Imperial system on the other hand...
I like the foot, I think it's a nice usable measurement for a lot of tangible, everyday things
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;50710095]It's a matter of need of precision. Roughly, you just need to know the day. If you want to be more precise, you add the month. [B]Then, if you really need to be precise, you add the day.[/B][/QUOTE] Might I recommend adding the year rather than adding the day a second time? :v:
I've always used a strange mix of the two systems, for example I prefer miles to kilometres, however I'd rather use litre measurements than pints and gallons.
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50708204]I still see the purpose in using Fahrenheit for temperature. Celsius is measured in relation to water's freezing and boiling points, but Fahrenheit is based more around human perception. 32 degrees is really cold, 100 degrees is really hot. Humans like it right around 70. It's no good for measuring stuff for chemistry or cooking, but for weather? Hell yeah. Why limit our range of temperature to 40 units?[/QUOTE] I cannot grasp how this makes any sense.
i wish YYYYMMDD was used more, i think it is the most logical of all date systems. easiest to sort by when you have a huge list of dates, as everything is actually in order
[QUOTE=Bad Joe;50710324]i wish YYYYMMDD was used more, i think it is the most logical of all date systems. easiest to sort by when you have a huge list of dates, as everything is actually in order[/QUOTE] Especially if you have files named YYYY-MM-DD
Recently figured out 1 yard roughly equals .9 meters and that DD/MM/YYYY makes way more sense grammatically speaking: the 14th day of the 7th month in the 2016th year, where 7th month of the 14th day makes zero sense.
14-JUL-2016 objectively the best, 0 chance of being mistaken for something else
[QUOTE=Alice3173;50708013]Good. It'd be kinda dumb to complicate the game in order to support both standards just to cater to a group which should have been taught metric to begin with.[/QUOTE] Why are you all so oblivious to the fact that imperial is easier to visually understand? Is it so you can feel superior to these "dumb americans" who "won't get with the times"? If you were so concerned with efficiency over being smug, you'd use kelvin instead of celsius. We're taught metric in school, but imperial is used by pretty much everything else. There's a reason why non scientific things are like this, it's because it's just helluva lot easier to visualize. I just can't picture someone telling me they're 60 cm tall, it doesn't compute. If you tell me you're 5 feet and 9 inches tall, I can instantly understand you. There's no real point to metric unless you're doing math with it.
[QUOTE=space1;50710678]Why are you all so oblivious to the fact that imperial is easier to visually understand? Is it so you can feel superior to these "dumb americans" who "won't get with the times"? If you were so concerned with efficiency over being smug, you'd use kelvin instead of celsius. We're taught metric in school, but imperial is used by pretty much everything else. There's a reason why non scientific things are like this, it's because it's just helluva lot easier to visualize. I just can't picture someone telling me they're 60 cm tall, it doesn't compute. If you tell me you're 5 feet and 9 inches tall, I can instantly understand you. There's no real point to metric unless you're doing math with it.[/QUOTE] Is it? You grew up with it so of course you feel that way but [B]is it actually?[/B] I grew up with metric, so it's VERY easy for me to visualize it, am I a freak or something? No, I'm just acclimatized to a different system. It's an easier system to learn and it's easier to understand as it's just as arbitrary as imperial, but more consistent within that arbitration. There's plenty of point to metric, and you're complaining everyone else is just oblivious? That's some pretty blatant hypocrisy IMO.
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